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    Mazhar
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    In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.

    Problem is Noon ignores all these and combines all as one case. See the verbs, their subjects are different.

    وَصِيَّةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ

    Cognate adverb فَرِيضَةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ

    مِنۢ بَعْدِ وَصِيَّةٛ يُوصِى بِـهَآ أَوْ دَيْنٛۗ

    مِنۢ بَعْدِ وَصِيَّةٛ يُوصِيـنَ بِـهَآ أَوْ دَيْنٛ

    مِّنۢ بَعْدِ وَصِيَّةٛ تُوصُونَ بِـهَآ أَوْ دَيْنٛۗ

    مِنۢ بَعْدِ وَصِيَّةٛ يُوصَىٰ بِـهَآ أَوْ دَيْنٛ غَيْـرَ مُضَآرّٛۚ

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      ^^^ unbelievable how clueless this place has become
      no wonder some of the other posters have departed

      https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

      peace and good bye!

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        ^^^ unbelievable how clueless this place has become
        no wonder some of the other posters have departed

        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

        peace and good bye!

        None of the points are answered but allegation is others are clueless. One needs to reflect upon the points raised otherwise one will remain slave to preconceived notion, notwithstanding how erroneous is it. Pl do reflect once.

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          Inheritance according to injunctions in Grand Qur’ān

          Introduction

          Inheritance is the practice of passing on the property, debts and obligations upon the death of an individual. In Arabic, the concept is embedded in Root و ر ث. The moveable and immovable assets have become fascinatingly attractive for sensual excitements and gratifications for the majority of people. This being the ground reality, mere laws and regulations to implement justice in all respects in the case of inheritance is quite a difficult proposition for majority of human beings. Therefore, Allah the Exalted encourages creating a situation wherein justice can be established in such matters by heightening the moral consciousness of man and showing of mercy and kindness to those undergoing tribulations. The probable situations obtaining in the case of death of a wealthy Man or Woman are quite many. It will need volumes of laws and regulations yet leaving areas for injustice. The rules and guidelines given for sharing the inheritance are aimed at avoiding heartburning, bickering and ill feelings amongst the members of bereaved family.

          The law of inheritance prescribed for Mankind and made obligatory upon the Believers is based upon the Testate succession and the Mandatory allocations. It is made incumbent upon the believers to make a bequeath in favour of their parents and relatively near relatives. A detailed procedure is laid down for bequeathing and for its verification after the death of concerned person. It can be modified in case there is patent tilt or injustice in the bequeath.

          Allah the Exalted has specifically covered such situations which are pregnant for abuse of man-dominance and injustice. In such situations, Allah the Exalted has exercised the Authority and Will to demarcate certain parts of the Inheritance, and permanently allocating it to specific relatives in preference to others. The old simple method of dividing into equal shares is adopted like equal parts into which a company's capital is divided these days. The unique feature of law of inheritance promulgated in Grand Qur’ān is that Mankind's ever cherished notion of absolute preference to male offspring is inverted by declaring daughter/s, not son/s, the focus and theme of Inheritance.

          https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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            In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.

            which verses for sisters?

            412 sisters 1/3, spouse 1/4 according to you?
            who gets 5/12 remainder?

            4176 two sisters 2/3, who gets remainder?
            4176 three sisters which part? how much?

            dire consequences if you are wrong, right?

            410 indeed the ones eating wealth the orphans wrongfully solely eating in interior (belly) theirs a fire and shall burning a blaze

            Inheritance according to injunctions in Grand Qur’ān

            sister and mother how much do you know?

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              which verses for sisters?

              412 sisters 1/3, spouse 1/4 according to you?
              who gets 5/12 remainder?

              4176 two sisters 2/3, who gets remainder?
              4176 three sisters which part? how much?

              dire consequences if you are wrong, right?

              410 indeed the ones eating wealth the orphans wrongfully solely eating in interior (belly) theirs a fire and shall burning a blaze

              sister and mother how much do you know?

              Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method by categorizing the deceased in three mutually exclusive types

              (i) Parents (Biological father and mother) leaving behind one daughter, or two daughters and son, or many daughters, daughter and son/sons, or more than one son. Parents leaving behind only one son are not in this category.

              (ii) Deceased leaving behind alive parents, both mother and father; one son and spouse (wife/wives or husband). Or deceased leaving behind only parents (father and mother) and spouse, but without one son to grieve.

              (iii) Deceased (man or woman) leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, and no spouse, but leaving one son to grieve him. Or deceased leaving behind only single alive parent or no parent, no spouse, no son but leaving behind to grieve him one sister, or two sisters, or sister/s and brothers.

              Part-II. Testate succession

              1. The rules and guidelines given for sharing the inheritance are aimed at avoiding heartburning, bickering and ill feelings amongst the members of bereaved family. The first decree is

              كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُـمْ إِذَا حَضَرَ أَحَدَكُمُ ٱلْمَوْتُ إِن تَرَكَ خَيْـرٙا ٱلْوَصِيَّةُ  لِلْوَٟلِدَيْنِ وَٱلۡأ ََقْرَبِيـنَ بِٱلْمَعْـرُوفِۖ

              The Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near-Relatives in accordance with the prevalent well known norms has been prescribed-decreed upon you people. This Oral Bequest is to be bequeathed at the point in time when natural death has approached someone of you if he is leaving behind worldly wealth —

              اے مدعیان ایمان؛مخصوص وصیت کرناتم لوگوں پر فرض کر دیا ہے جب موت کا امکان تم میں کسی کے لئے آن پہنچے اگر وہ منقولہ و غیر منقولہ جائداد چھوڑے گا،معروف انداز میں والدین اور قریبی رشتہ داروں کے حق کے لئے۔

              Inheritance according to injunctions in Grand Qur’ān

              حَقّٙا عَلَـى ٱلْمُتَّقِيـنَ .١٨٠

              The Oral Bequest is mandatory-incumbent upon those who sincerely endeavour to attain salvation.

              وصیت کرنا اور اس میں حقوق کی پاسداری کرنا متقین/محتاط اور غلط روش سے اپنے آپ کو محفوظ رکھنے والوں پر واجب ہے

              "The Bequest" is prescribed in relation to point in time. Its time is when a person expects that the death is close by. The time of announcing a Will is not when one is hale and hearty.
              "The Bequest" by the testator is NOT for the offspring and spouse but is to be bequeathed only for the Parents and the near-relatives.

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                author=Mazhar link=topic=9604035.msg439708#msg439708 date=1667716189]
                Allah the Exalted has allocated inalienable shares for the bereaved relatives in the most simple method

                it was asked how much to sister and mother?
                you replied https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

                can anyone else answer the simple question?
                test of basic intelligence

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                  1. There can be a situation altogether different from the above. The Married Son of a surviving Mother and Father dies. His Father and Mother may or may not still be mutually husband and wife at the time of death of their son. They might have even separated during the life of their died Son. The Married Son of the Surviving Mother and Father may or may not have bereaved his own son
                    https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11p.gif

                  Take note; One-sixth of that which he (the deceased son) has left behind is allocated separately for each of his bereaved Father and Mother. This direction is to take effect if solitary son is surviving for him (the deceased son of living parents).

                  1. Please note the turn in the discourse. Here the deceased person is a married Son (or daughter) of a living Mother and Father.

                  2. The other situation is that a married son died who did not have a son but his parents have survived him. For such situation it is prescribed as under
                    https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11q.gif
                    However, if there were not a son surviving for him and his Father and Mother have inherited him, thereby, the One-Third is apportioned for his Mother.

                  This is the apodosis clause comprising of an inverted nominal sentence. If the deceased man did not have a son but his parents are alive, then the one-third will stand apportioned for his mother. Allocation for the Father of the deceased is not apportioned by Allah the Exalted though his Mother and Father have both survived him while he did not have a son. It may be remembered that the Father and Mother of the deceased Man could be in a separated state-Matrimonial Bond broken, or even his Mother had become in his life the wife of another Man other than his Father. The right of some such Mothers could be in jeopardy if it were left to the Will of deceased son.

                  This clause is modified if another condition was co-existing An amendment is introduced, regarding the 1/3rd Mandatory Prioritized-Set aside Share of the Mother, if the siblings of the deceased also exist. In this circumstantial change, the share apportioned for the Mother diminishes to 1/6th of the Inheritance.

                  https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11r.gif

                  Every situation is mentioned if one has time to read the entire subject
                  https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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                    Every situation is mentioned if one has time to read the entire subject

                    how many times same simple question

                    sister and mother, how much to each?

                    why you keep mooing not answering simple stuff?
                    parrot is more interesting rather listen watch cows

                    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMeNfVJr_hc

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                      how many times same simple question

                      sister and mother, how much to each?

                      why you keep mooing not answering simple stuff?
                      parrot is more interesting rather listen watch cows

                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMeNfVJr_hc

                      Share of mother is mentioned in the Ayah if you wish to see. What is fun in such gimmicks!

                      Define the dead and the mourners. The inheritance varies by situation.

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                        Share of mother is mentioned in the Ayah if you wish to see. What is fun in such gimmicks!

                        Define the dead and the mourners. The inheritance varies by situation.

                        what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

                        to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

                        are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

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                          what is not clear? man died left mourners mother and sister

                          to spoon-feed you a hint exactly same as mother and brother

                          are you going to answer or keep spamming? need more hints?

                          The dead has only mother and a sister. No surviving wife, no child, no father. He is termed https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00090.%20a%20Kull%20Kaaf%20Laam%20Laam/12.gif

                          https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/4.11r.gif

                          However, if brothers and sisters were surviving for him (the deceased), then, the One-Sixth shall be the share apportioned for his Mother.

                          يَسْتَفْتُونَكَ قُلِ ٱللَّهُ يُفْتِيكُـمْ فِـى ٱلْـكَلَٟلَةِۚ

                          They seek that you the Messenger give them the confirmation- verdict at your own. You tell them; " Allah the Exalted gives you the verdict in the situation regards a person being all by himself - bachelor-without bereaved spouse, and survived by a singular Parent, either Mother or Father.

                          آپ(ﷺ)سے یہ لوگ آپ کافتویٰ لینے کے خواہش مند ہیں۔آپ(ﷺ) ارشادفرمائیں "میں نہیں،اللہ تعالیٰ تم لوگوں کو ایسےمورث مرد یا عورت کے بارے فتویٰ دیتے ہیں جوبغیر بیوی یا بغیر خاوندکے موجود ہونے ،اور والدین میں سے ایک زندہ ہونے کی حالت میں ترکہ چھوڑ گیا ہے

                          Root ف ت ى

                          إِنِ ٱمْـرُؤٌا۟ هَلَكَ لَيْسَ لَـهُۥ وَلَـدٚ

                          In case he was such a person who died in condition that a son was not heir for him;

                          اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                          وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                          But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                          اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

                          m. In case the death expecting Man in state of Kalala bachelor-spouseless and a single parent surviving but is bereaved not by a son, the one half of inheritance is allocated to a single surviving sister; similarly if she died in such state her surviving brother will get half of her wealth. And if his two sisters are surviving their share will be two-thirds of inheritance. If siblings comprise brothers and sisters the two-thirds will be shared by them all according to the principle of semblance of two feminine shares allocated to a male.

                          Rest is according to the bequeath of the dead.
                          72. The Parts of the Inheritance apportioned by Allah the Exalted are un-alterable under all circumstances. The allocations made in the Will shall sustain binding legality for the remaining part of inheritance. However, a correction-modification can be made if unjustified inclination or evident injustice was made by the Testator.

                          https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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                            The dead has only mother and a sister.

                            answer the question, how much to each?

                            mother = ?
                            sister = ?

                            you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

                            https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

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                              answer the question, how much to each?

                              mother = ?
                              sister = ?

                              you cannot right? so you keep parroting!

                              https//youtu.be/LwBGAu7SDOY

                              You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

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                                You are certainly not blind, feigning blind is something different. Exact ayah and exact allocation is mentioned. Why are you playing dirty?

                                why don't you answer the simple question?

                                why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

                                it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

                                we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

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                                  why don't you answer the simple question?

                                  why hard for you to post mother gets 1/x sister gets 1/y?

                                  it is you who is playing dumb, dirty, and cowardly too!

                                  we can all understand the parrot has more intelligence!

                                  What is it?

                                  اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                                  وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                                  But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                                  اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

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                                    What is it?

                                    اگر ایسا شخص (قبل ازیں بیان کردہ کلالہ سے مختلف)وہ ہے ،جس کاایک بیٹا بھی اس کا وارث بننے کے لئے موجود نہیں ہے؛

                                    وَلَهُۥٓ أُخْتٚ فَلَـهَا نِصْفُ مَا تَرَكَۚ

                                    But a sister survives for him, thereat, half of that which he has left shall be allocated for her.
                                    اور ایک بہن اس کا سوگ منانے کے لئے موجود ہے تو اس صورت میں اس ترکے کے نصف پر اس (بہن)کا استحقاق اللہ تعالیٰ کی جانب سے بطور فریضہ مقرر کیا گیا ہے جو وہ چھوڑگیا/گئی ہے

                                    you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                                    and mother gets how much exactly ?

                                    to see try three sisters and mother ?
                                    hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                                    btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

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                                      you saying this case sister gets 1/2 ?
                                      and mother gets how much exactly ?

                                      to see try three sisters and mother ?
                                      hint you cannot solve two unknowns!

                                      btw, why post stuff you cannot defend risk burning? 410

                                      For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained as https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/004.%20An%20Nisa/temp%2014%20%204.11b.gif and وَصِيَّةٙ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ
                                      Remaining is according to the https//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.131/2.gif The Bequest by the death expecting Person; leaving behind worldly wealth, subsequent to his death, is partially modified and superseded by Allah the Exalted by apportioning certain part of his wealth; inalienably assigning it to certain Survivors. As for the remaining part of wealth, the Will can also be modified to make corrections for visible tilt and injustice by the Testator. In case he died a sudden death without leaving the Will, it is for surviving kin of just repute to administer justice regarding the part of wealth other than inalienably apportioned by Allah the Exalted

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                                        For each ground situation mandatory share is prescribed/ordained

                                        you keep posting not answering

                                        ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                                        ? mother

                                        https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                                        Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                                        "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                                        https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                                        Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                                        "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

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                                          you keep posting not answering

                                          ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                                          ? mother

                                          https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097
                                          Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                                          "I was ill, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)came to visit me and found me unconscious. He came walking while Abu Bakr and 'Umar were with him. The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) performed Wudu, then poured the remaining water on me, so I came to my senses. I said 'O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! how shall I dispose of my wealth?' - or - 'What shall I do with my wealth?' He did not reply anything to me" -and he had nine sisters- "until the Ayah about the inheritance was revealed they ask you for a legal verdict. Say "Allah directs (thus) about Al-Kalalah." Jabir said "It was revealed regarding me."

                                          https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096
                                          Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
                                          "The Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) came to visit me while I was ill at Banu Salamah. I said 'O Prophet of Allah(S.A.W)! How shall I divide my wealth among my children?' But he did not say anything to me, until the following was revealed Allah commands you regarding your children's (inheritance) to the male, a portion equal to that of two females."

                                          If this is one case
                                          ? nine sisters (412 or 4176)
                                          ? mother

                                          Both fall in the category of parent and near ones for whom otherwise bequest is prescribed (2180)

                                          The deceased is the person defined in 4176.
                                          Thereby 2/3 is inalienable share allocated by Allah swt.
                                          Mother will get whatever deceased decided in bequeathed.

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