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    Inheritance according to injunctions in Grand Qur’ān

    The law of inheritance prescribed for Mankind and made obligatory upon the Believers is based upon the Testate succession and the Mandatory allocations. It is made incumbent upon the believers to make a bequeath in favour of their parents and relatively near relatives. A detailed procedure is laid down for bequeathing and for its verification after the death of concerned person. It can be modified in case there is patent tilt or injustice in the bequeath.

    1. Grand Qur’ān is for entire humanity in time line; for men of ordinary prudence, as well for scholars and intelligentsia. Therefore, all its injunctions regarding conduct and relationships need necessarily be simple and understandable for majority, who understand simple mathematics but not advanced calculators and algebra etc. Therefore, we need not act like Diophantus, Hero of Alexandria, or al-Khwârizmî to understand the injunctions given in the Qur’ān about division and distribution of inheritance since it is mentioned succinctly and explicitly in simple terms. The old simple method of dividing the divisible/allocated wealth into equal shares is adopted which is in modern times as one of the equal parts into which a company's capital is divided. The legal stakeholders for whom Allah the Exalted has apportioned mandatory shares in inheritance are the following

    (a) Biological children of the deceased parents;

    (b) Parents of the deceased son;

    (c) Spouses of the deceased;

    (3) Siblings; brothers and sisters of the deceased.

    Other blood relatives like grand offspring and adopted or under patronage collateral child-person are not allocated any share by Allah the Exalted but it is left to the discretion of the person to bequeath for them in his wealth.

    https//haqeeqat.pk/Economics-Inheritance.htm

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      Division of Inheritance According to Quran
      Halis Aydemir

      Rather More sensible analysis than https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

      https//www.academia.edu/10906567/Division_of_Inheritance_According_to_Quran

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        Division of Inheritance According to Quran
        Halis Aydemir

        https//www.academia.edu/10906567/Division_of_Inheritance_According_to_Quran

        why you post link by someone you have not read?
        has walad (child!) uses hadith contradicts hadith!
        and he mostly rants and disagrees with your stuff!

        he has this one correct by "accident" messes up math at end (you'll need to read it)

        Example I
        Supposing that, the deceased has got three daughters, parents and three siblings left.
        In this case, two-thirds of the property left by the deceased belongs directly to daughters.
        One-sixth of the remaining property belongs to mother of the deceased and one sixth belongs to the father of the deceased. In this case, there is no share for siblings.

        Example III
        Supposing that, the deceased has got only one daughter left. No parents, no spouses.
        In such a case, half of the property left by the deceased belongs to the daughter.
        As there is no heirs of shares, half of the heritage will be left over.

        who gets remaining 1/2? his faculty/tribe nineteen morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

        https//sunnah.com/bulugh/7/223
        Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas (RA)
        I said, "O Allah's Messenger, I have wealth and no one to inherit from me except my one daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my property as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give half of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give a third of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "You may give a third as Sadaqah, which is still a lot. To leave your heirs rich is better than to leave them poor and begging from people." .

        you still owe us an answer this case, go ask Halis? laugh

        husband, mother, 3 daughters, 3 sisters
        we know you won’t answer! and you cannot!

        Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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          why you post link by someone you have not read?
          has walad (child!) uses hadith contradicts hadith!
          and he mostly rants and disagrees with your stuff!

          he has this one correct by "accident" messes up math at end (you'll need to read it)

          Example I
          Supposing that, the deceased has got three daughters, parents and three siblings left.
          In this case, two-thirds of the property left by the deceased belongs directly to daughters.
          One-sixth of the remaining property belongs to mother of the deceased and one sixth belongs to the father of the deceased. In this case, there is no share for siblings.

          Example III
          Supposing that, the deceased has got only one daughter left. No parents, no spouses.
          In such a case, half of the property left by the deceased belongs to the daughter.
          As there is no heirs of shares, half of the heritage will be left over.

          who gets remaining 1/2? his faculty/tribe nineteen morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً

          https//sunnah.com/bulugh/7/223
          Narrated Sa'd bin Abi Waqqas (RA)
          I said, "O Allah's Messenger, I have wealth and no one to inherit from me except my one daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my property as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give half of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "No." I said, "Shall I give a third of it as Sadaqah?" He replied, "You may give a third as Sadaqah, which is still a lot. To leave your heirs rich is better than to leave them poor and begging from people." .

          you still owe us an answer this case, go ask Halis? laugh

          husband, mother, 3 daughters, 3 sisters
          we know you won’t answer! and you cannot!

          Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

          https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

          His and yours are just calculations away from the text.

          Like
          Supposing that, the deceased has got three daughters, parents and three siblings left.
          In this case, two-thirds of the property left by the deceased belongs directly to daughters.
          One-sixth of the remaining property belongs to mother of the deceased and one sixth belongs to the father of the deceased. In this case, there is no share for siblings.

          2/3 is allocation for the daughters by Allah swt.

          Rest according to bequest under 2180 for parents and siblings (nearones)

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            2/3 is allocation for the daughters by Allah swt.

            Rest according to bequest under 2180 for parents and siblings (nearones)

            no bequests if the Almighty strikes you dead for lying!
            you keep spamming the thread embarrassing yourself!

            you can't answer simple cases like parent daughter/s!
            you do not know difference between two and three!

            use hadith you'll get wife 1/8 (if walad) correct
            the rest is wrong like you to steal from orphans! >

            here is Jabir bin ‘Abdullah again, he never died? hmm

            https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097

            https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096

            https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2092
            Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
            "The wife of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi came with her two daughters from Sa'd to he Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)and said; O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! these two are daughters of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi who fought along with you on the day of Uhud and was martyred. Their uncle took their wealth, without leaving any wealth for them, and they will not be married unless they have wealth.' He said 'Allah will decide on that matter.' The ayah about inheritance was revealed, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) sent (word) to their Uncle saying Give the two daughters of Sa'd two thirds, and give their mother one eighth, and whatever remains, then it is for you.'

            ^^^ unbelievable how clueless this place has become
            no wonder some of the other posters have departed

            https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

            peace and good bye!

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              no bequests if the Almighty strikes you dead for lying!
              you keep spamming the thread embarrassing yourself!

              you can't answer simple cases like parent daughter/s!
              you do not know difference between two and three!

              use hadith you'll get wife 1/8 (if walad) correct
              the rest is wrong like you to steal from orphans! >D

              here is Jabir bin ‘Abdullah again, he never died? hmm

              https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097

              https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096

              https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2092
              Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
              "The wife of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi came with her two daughters from Sa'd to he Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)and said; O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! these two are daughters of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi who fought along with you on the day of Uhud and was martyred. Their uncle took their wealth, without leaving any wealth for them, and they will not be married unless they have wealth.' He said 'Allah will decide on that matter.' The ayah about inheritance was revealed, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) sent (word) to their Uncle saying Give the two daughters of Sa'd two thirds, and give their mother one eighth, and whatever remains, then it is for you.'

              If you wish success and salvation Avoid relying on secondary sources.

              In all cases the allocation prescribed by Allah the Exalted shall prevail. The rest is for the deceased to bequeath or family to decide in case of sudden death.
              If the progeny is only daughter, half of heritage ---remains half
              If the progeny is two daughters or more 2/3 -----remains 1/3

              ............
              Fortunes vary depending upon the case
              Related Root ت ر ك signifies giving up, desertion, and abandonment of a thing. An agent leaves behind estate which becomes another's property. The fortunes accruing to various members of the bereaved family could fluctuate depending upon the number of offspring and blood relatives existing at the time of death of a person leaving heritage.

              لِّلـرِّجَالِ نَصيِبٚ مِّمَّا تَرَكَ ٱلْوَٟلِدَانِ وَٱلۡأَقْرَبُونَ

              Subject to ground realities a share is the apportioned right for the Men out of the inheritance left by the Parents (Mother and Father) and the relatively Nearer Relatives.

              زمینی حقائق اور حالات کے مطابق اس ترکے میں جو ان کے والدین اور رشتے میں نسبتاًزیادہ قرابت داروں نے اپنے پیچھے چھوڑا ہے اس میں مردوں کا استحقاق ہے۔

              وَلِلنِّسَآءِ نَصِيبٚ مِّمَّا تَرَكَ ٱلْوَٟلِدَانِ وَٱلۡأَقْرَبُونَ

              And likewise subject to ground realities a share is the apportioned right for the Women out of the inheritance left by the Parents (Mother and Father) and the relatively Nearer Relatives.

              اور اسی طرح زمینی حقائق اور حالات کے مطابق اس ترکے میں جو ان کے والدین اور رشتے میں نسبتاًزیادہ قرابت داروں نے اپنے پیچھے چھوڑا ہے اس میں عورتوں کا استحقاق ہے۔

              مِمَّا قَلَّ مِنْهُ أَوْ كَثُرَۚ نَصِيبٙا مَّفْرُوضٙا .٧

              This share is out of that which has either become diminutive from that-inheritance or has become greater fortune, it is determined fortune by occasion.

              یہ استحقاق اس میں سے ہے جو(زمینی حقائق کے بموجب)کم ہو گیا ہے یا وہ بڑھ گیا ہے؛یہ وقت کے مطابق متعین کردہ حصہ/نصیب اپنا اپنا ہے
              This share is out of that which has either become diminutive from that-inheritance or has become greater fortune apportioned.

              You should first learn reading the text.

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                If you wish success and salvation Avoid relying on secondary sources.

                In all cases the allocation prescribed by Allah the Exalted shall prevail. The rest is for the deceased to bequeath or family to decide in case of sudden death.
                If the progeny is only daughter, half of heritage ---remains half
                If the progeny is two daughters or more 2/3 -----remains 1/3

                You should first learn reading the text.

                If you want to reach salvation, stop lying!

                411 فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْنِ fawqa ith'natayni
                "Over two!" (3+) NOT two daughters or more!

                4176 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni
                "Two!" (Exactly 2!) NOT three sisters or more!

                you cannot solve simple case! give distributions stop being a coward!
                man died (accident) they ask you and moron tribe how much to each?

                mother, wife, exactly 2 daughters, 6 sisters

                one half sister (same mother only)
                two half sisters (same father only)
                three full sisters (same father and mother)

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                  If you want to reach salvation, stop lying!

                  411 فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْنِ fawqa ith'natayni
                  "Over two!" (3+) NOT two daughters or more!

                  4176 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni
                  "Two!" (Exactly 2!) NOT three sisters or more!

                  you cannot solve simple case! give distributions stop being a coward!
                  man died (accident) they ask you and moron tribe how much to each?

                  mother, wife, exactly 2 daughters, 6 sisters

                  one half sister (same mother only)
                  two half sisters (same father only)
                  three full sisters (same father and mother)

                  Over two? Who are these two? It is talking about real time event - not mere mathematics.
                  Do you even know what adverb of location mean and connotes?
                  Who are mentioned by Noon in كُنَّ? It is already plural pronoun meaning three or more feminine. Does "over two" means something different from three or more females?

                  Pl learn reading Arabic before trying to be acting like Diophantus, Hero of Alexandria, or al-Khwârizmî

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                    Over two?

                    2 (3+) fawqa ithnatayni (above two)
                    3 (4+) fawqa thalatha (above three)

                    not answering? lets add father, who gets what?

                    father, mother, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters
                    one half sister (same mother)
                    two half sisters (same father)
                    three full sisters (same father and mother)

                    you can google entire net, hadith, ask anyone only answer is here

                    Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                    https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                      2 (3+) fawqa ithnatayni (above two)
                      3 (4+) fawqa thalatha (above three)

                      not answering? lets add father, who gets what?

                      father, mother, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters
                      one half sister (same mother)
                      two half sisters (same father)
                      three full sisters (same father and mother)

                      you can google entire net, hadith, ask anyone only answer is here

                      Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                      https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                      Why are you consistently evasive? Over two of whom? Arabic has a specific entity for every cardinal number. It are not mere digits.

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                        My sincere advice is that you first learn some basic things about Arabic.

                        Start to understand the phrase and its first word أَوْلَٟدِكُمْ

                        What type of noun is it?

                        Need not tell you that a noun is not repeated but is then referred by pronoun.

                        These verbs have a pronoun in them كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

                        Can all these four refer the above noun?

                        If you understand not, leave for the time being digital work and try learning to understand the text.

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                          Why are you consistently evasive? Over two of whom?

                          411 awlādikum
                          you never answer any distribution questions?
                          add cowardly liar brother, how much to each?

                          parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                          one half sister (same mother)
                          two half sisters (same father) and bother
                          three full sisters (same father and mother)

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                            411 awlādikum
                            you never answer any distribution questions?
                            add cowardly liar brother, how much to each?

                            parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                            one half sister (same mother)
                            two half sisters (same father) and bother
                            three full sisters (same father and mother)

                            The word awlādikum does not include in its semantic ambit except those in the birth of whom you had taken sexual part.
                            You are adamant not to learn basics of Arabic and are bent upon making imaginary equations.

                            Why not you answer questions about language and meanings before embarking upon mathematics? Fear of knowing the truth?

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                              Fear of knowing the truth?

                              blah blah blah then why not solve the problem?

                              parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                              one half sister (same mother)
                              two half sisters (same father) and bother
                              three full sisters (same father and mother)

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                                blah blah blah then why not solve the problem?

                                parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                                one half sister (same mother)
                                two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                When two daughters exist then the template is restricted to

                                يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                                2/3 of heritage is theirs.
                                1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

                                Pay attention to the advice about learning "how to read a book" and basics of Arabic.

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                                  When two daughters exist then the template is restricted to

                                  يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                                  2/3 of heritage is theirs.
                                  1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

                                  nope decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
                                  family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

                                  for the benefit of other readers siblings get nothing!
                                  1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                                  Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                                  https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                  the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

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                                    nope decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
                                    family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

                                    for the benefit of other readers siblings get nothing!
                                    1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                                    Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                                    https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                    the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

                                    1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                                    Relate it with the text of Qur"an. Otherwise it is just gossip. You seem not interested reading Qur'an. Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

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                                      1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                                      Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

                                      1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
                                      1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

                                      always fixed amounts and one variable!
                                      check out precision! who to payoff first!

                                      1/3 mother (fixed 411) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
                                      1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 412) 5/12 to father (variable)
                                      1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 412) 1/3 to father (variable)

                                      simple logic! any combination!

                                      Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                                      https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                                        1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
                                        1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

                                        always fixed amounts and one variable!
                                        check out precision! who to payoff first!

                                        1/3 mother (fixed 411) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
                                        1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 412) 5/12 to father (variable)
                                        1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 412) 1/3 to father (variable)

                                        simple logic! any combination!

                                        Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                                        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                        Earlier quote 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                                        This is because of the knots you have made in your brain, nothing to match it with source text.

                                        Source text begins with children and says

                                        10١٠

                                        يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                                        لِلذَّكَرِ مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِۚ

                                        فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                                        This is the verdict of Allah swt. It is categorically fixed. But your imagination is
                                        13/24 to daughters

                                        Try to read and go by the book. Don't be Rashad Khalifa to play with digits by hook and crook.

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                                          To help you untie the knots in your brain reflect and try to understand the importance of my earlier question to you.

                                          These verbs have a pronoun in them كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

                                          Can all these four refer the above noun أولادكم awladikum?

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