Inheritance according to Qur?an
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411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."
4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
I repeat what I have said many times before.
In verse 11 we have the parents of the deceased.
In verse 176 there are no parents, only siblings.
That is why the list is different, and that is why the shares are different.
If the deceased had both mother and siblings, the share of the siblings is different, but if there are only siblings, the share of the siblings is different. This is not a contradiction, but a different formula for different lists of remainders. (The shares of the siblings in verse 176 are equivalent to the shares of the children in verse 11, and the shares of the siblings in verse 11 are different from the shares of the siblings in verse 176)
Not only in these two cases, but in all three of the three verses on inheritance, lists with different proportions are given for different situations.
Do not look at the lies written over and over again by the person who does not understand what I have said so simply and clearly and tries to ignore my answer.
The formula given by Allah is very simple and perfect.
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In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.
The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.
What you mean there is no spouse IN 411.. Who is spouse after all in the sight of children? Yes mother or father..
So if mother passed away without writing bequest then 411 explains clearly... Indeed in the same verse 411 husbands share is not mentioned but 412 mentioned it.. So it doesn't mean spouse not in 411..Spouse is the one who is deceased (husband or wife or father or mother) .. 411 and 412 should be connected to get a complete division of property..Since 4176 is kalala no need to combine with 411 and 12..
Am I right or against your understanding?
411 is not complete without 412 .. That's my take.. So what you mean by 411 not mentioned spouse.. Children get properties of whose? Yes parents and parents are spouse..
411-12 two verses agree.. But but one absolute statement..Note.. 411-12 property is either of deceased (husband /father) or deceased (mother /.wife). and division amongst his or her children, living single spouse and parents and siblings etc..
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What you mean there is no spouse IN 411.. Who is spouse after all in the sight of children? Yes mother or father..
So if mother passed away without writing bequest then 411 explains clearly... Indeed in the same verse 411 husbands share is not mentioned but 412 mentioned it.. So it doesn't mean spouse not in 411..Spouse is the one who is deceased (husband or wife or father or mother) .. 411 and 412 should be connected to get a complete division of property..Since 4176 is kalala no need to combine with 411 and 12..
Am I right or against your understanding?
411 is not complete without 412 .. That's my take.. So what you mean by 411 not mentioned spouse.. Children get properties of whose? Yes parents and parents are spouse..
411-12 two verses agree.. But but one absolute statement..Note.. 411-12 property is either of deceased (husband /father) or deceased (mother /.wife). and division amongst his or her children, living single spouse and parents and siblings etc..
No, what I'm saying is very simple.
In verse 11, the deceased did not leave behind wife/husband.
In verse 12, the deceased has wife/husband and is alive.
In verse 176, the deceased has only his brothers/sisters as heirs.
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No, what I'm saying is very simple.
In verse 11, the deceased did not leave behind wife/husband.
In verse 12, the deceased has wife/husband and is alive.
In verse 176, the deceased has only his brothers/sisters as heirs.
You mean if I am not mistaken
411 = both parents deceased
412 = one spouse either husband or wife alive
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You mean if I am not mistaken
411 = both parents deceased
412 = one spouse either husband or wife alive
In verse 11, there may be parents and their shares are described in this verse(We are talking about the parents/mum, dad of the deceased). But the deceased does not have a wife/husband, that is, his wife/husband died before him.
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In verse 11, there may be parents and their shares are described in this verse(We are talking about the parents/mum, dad of the deceased). But the deceased does not have a wife/husband, that is, his wife/husband died before him.
Let me get some clarification from you for the sake of anyone who didn't get it..
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has only one son Adam..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Adam, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?Thanks
Note Additionally...replace Adam with Sofia (as only daughter) and explain..
And suppose Adam and Sofia both are there and explain pls.. -
Let me get some clarification from you for the sake of anyone who didn't get it..
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has only one son Adam..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Adam, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?Thanks
Note Additionally...replace Adam with Sofia (as only daughter) and explain..
And suppose Adam and Sofia both are there and explain pls..Since both the wife and the child are the inheritance here, the 12th verse of Nisaa explains the relevant division (already every sentence of this verse explains what to do if there is a spouse left behind)
"If you have children, then one-eighth of what is left after the payment of your will and your debt belongs to your wives."
According to this sentence, if a man leaves behind his wife and has children, only these people can be heirs. The wife gets one eighth of the inheritance and the remaining seven-eighths goes to the child. Even if the deceased has parents or siblings, they cannot get a share in this case.
Linda gets $1250, Adam gets $8750.
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Since both the wife and the child are the inheritance here, the 12th verse of Nisaa explains the relevant division (already every sentence of this verse explains what to do if there is a spouse left behind)
"If you have children, then one-eighth of what is left after the payment of your will and your debt belongs to your wives."
According to this sentence, if a man leaves behind his wife and has children, only these people can be heirs. The wife gets one eighth of the inheritance and the remaining seven-eighths goes to the child. Even if the deceased has parents or siblings, they cannot get a share in this case.
Linda gets $1250, Adam gets $8750.
Thank you...
I do agree..
But I did ask the basic question... You didn't respond to additional questions.. OK fine.
Let me continue if you wish keep replying fir better clarity to others.. -
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has two daughters only Sofia and Emily..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12? -
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has three daughters only Sofia , Emily and Alice..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Alice, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12? -
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has a daughter Sofia ..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12? -
There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has only daughter Sofia ..
And Linda has her parents Sabrina and Steve...
Well Linda deceased...
Now Linda had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between David, Sofia, Sabrina and Steve based on 4"11-12?Why I ask in this way is cuz 411 and 412 should be combined to answer..
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There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has two daughters only Sofia and Emily..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?Since the wife remains, verse 12 should be looked at again.
Again, only the wife and child can receive a share of the money.
Linda gets $1250, Sofia gets $4375, Emily gets $4375 .
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There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has three daughters only Sofia , Emily and Alice..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Alice, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?Linda $1250 , Sofia $2916,6 , Emily $2916,6 , Alice $2916,6 .
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There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has a daughter Sofia ..
And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
Well David deceased...
Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?Linda $1250 , Sofia $8750.
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There is a family..
David and Linda husband and wife..
And David and Linda has only daughter Sofia ..
And Linda has her parents Sabrina and Steve...
Well Linda deceased...
Now Linda had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between David, Sofia, Sabrina and Steve based on 4"11-12?Why I ask in this way is cuz 411 and 412 should be combined to answer..
David $2500 , Sofia $7500.
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Linda $1250 , Sofia $8750.
Yes... Thanks..
Now people might be wondering in case if not got the verses right. they would question it is mentioned "if only One Daughter ' she gets Half but here the amount is not Half what is explained by brother Emere..
Well.. Let me clarify..At least minimum ONE MALE Child + 1 daughter as I said conditional... Both will get half.. Suppose David had Sofia and Adam as children both Sofia and Adam get equal after Linda amount is given.. 8750/2=4375 for each Sofia and Adam and Linda 1250..
If David had Adam and two daughters Sofia and Emily.. Then 21 equation apples after Linda's amount is given..
8750/4= 2187.5 ..so both Sofia and Emily gets 2187.5 each while Adam gets 4375...- but if Davif had Adam and Sofia, Emily and Alice then 2/3 fir daughters after Linda's portion is given..
8750/3=2916.66 ..2916.66 for Adam but Sofia, Emily and Alice gets 5833.33..So Sofia, Emily and Alice gets 1944.44 each..
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If David had two sons and two daughters then equation is undeniably 21 in favor of male children..
Even David had two sons and three daughters equation remains same 21 for male child..Even if David had THREE sons and only ONE daughter equation is 21 in favor of sons..
It's all about ONE MALE CHILD..
I know those verses are criticized by Arab christians etc vehemently as if these divisions are wrong and unfortunaly conventional Muslims also agree and... Shame..
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But note well if parents are alive and if the deceased has a child gender male parents gets 1/6 each.. Daughters there anyway gets..
So.. I would like ask Emere why parents not got any share? When no parents have given the proportions but if parents there proportions chsnges.. Agree? Or Any objections?
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If parents are alive of the deceased person never neglect them... 411 clarifies..
So let's see below with parents..
If David has one son and one daughter and wife and his both parents then
10000/8 =1250 for wife..
10000/6 =1666.66 for each parent
5416.67/2=2708.33 for each son and daughter
Any objection?
