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Plastic surgery ... allowed or prohibiteD ?

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    ammarb87
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    AOA
    what do u guuys think bout plastic surgery? Nose reshaping ? What does the Quran say ?

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      Why would it be prohibited? I don't think I've come across that in the Quran, me thinks.

      What would it look like anyway? al-surjaria pilastakian? (I no no arabi)

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        And no dissin bro MJ in this thread, we all saw enough of that b4 the trial. Drop it now - That goes for everyone - Mods as well - Layth aswell - Newbies as well. evil

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          Natu
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          (please)

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            peace,

            The specific is not clearly prohibited*. However, when there is no specific prohibition, it should be considered in moderation. I personally think having plastic surgery is fine as long as the expense is not a misbalance of funds, i.e. lets say you are spending more money on plastic surgery than what you give in charity, especially if there is no reason for it other than beauty/cosmetic.

            *there is a sign stating one should not change The God's creation but I personally do not interpret this sign in this way, others might.

            Wakas

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              born_again
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              Salaam Wakas

              Which ayat is that?

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                Andya_Primanda
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                Salaam Wakas

                Which ayat is that?

                I thought the 'Thou shalt not changeth God's creation' comes from hadith?

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                  zenje
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                  Peace,

                  I wouldn't condone it. Especially if the purpose is to make oneself more "beautiful". Having said that, I dont think there's a prohibition as such. On the other hand, it's not a bad thing to do if it is corrective surgery for someone who's had an accident or disease.

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                    Wakas
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                    I believe I was referring to sign 4119

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      unknownuser
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                      AOA
                      what do u guuys think bout plastic surgery? Nose reshaping ? What does the Quran say ?

                      Hello Ammar,

                      What part of your "anatomy" do you want to change? -)

                      These days you can change anything. From your skin colour to extending the length of your...erm...hum.."legs", even women can enhance not only boobs but also other "things" -) ?

                      I would like a beautiful body myself. May be in the future they can grow a perfect body from my own DNA strands yeah?

                      I wonder will I be still "Me"

                      Regards,

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                        I would like a beautiful body myself. May be in the future they can grow a perfect body from my own DNA strands yeah?

                        I wonder will I be still "Me"

                        Regards,

                        If you grow a body from your own DNA it will grow up to look just like you (with a few alterations due to different growth histories, obviously.

                        It won't be you. The new body is technically your twin brother.

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                          I would like a beautiful body myself. May be in the future they can grow a perfect body from my own DNA strands yeah?

                          I wonder will I be still "Me"

                          Regards,

                          If you grow a body from your own DNA it will grow up to look just like you (with a few alterations due to different growth histories, obviously.

                          It won't be you. The new body is technically your twin brother.

                          I meant with my own DNA but "altered" and so that it becomes a beautiful body with a face with chisled features with added biceps, triceps and 6 pacs that women like a lot -) (may be my brain could be transferred to that body or may be my consciouness can be downloaded to the new body in the future, yeah? -)

                          Regards,

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                            Andya_Primanda
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                            I meant with my own DNA but "altered" and so that it becomes a beautiful body with a face with chisled features with added biceps, triceps and 6 pacs that women like a lot -) (may be my brain could be transferred to that body or may be my consciouness can be downloaded to the new body in the future, yeah? -)

                            Regards,

                            Well the technology for those isn't available yet and I doubt that you can store your consciousness in a physical sense.

                            Just enjoy what you have now wink

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                              I meant with my own DNA but "altered" and so that it becomes a beautiful body with a face with chisled features with added biceps, triceps and 6 pacs that women like a lot -) (may be my brain could be transferred to that body or may be my consciouness can be downloaded to the new body in the future, yeah? -)

                              Regards,

                              Well the technology for those isn't available yet and I doubt that you can store your consciousness in a physical sense.

                              Just enjoy what you have now wink

                              Ha ha -)
                              hey stop ruining my dreams!!! -)

                              We can land probes on the moons of Neptune billlions miles away, we can even line up atoms in neat rows to spell out the words "IBM". I am sure we can accompolish ANYTHING!!!! -)

                              Regards,

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                                I am sure we can accompolish ANYTHING!!!! -)

                                ...except realise that we can't. idea

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                                  Hello Lote,

                                  I meant with my own DNA but "altered" and so that it becomes a beautiful body with a face with chisled features with added biceps, triceps and 6 pacs that women like a lot -) (may be my brain could be transferred to that body or may be my consciouness can be downloaded to the new body in the future, yeah? -)

                                  Regards,

                                  "...that women like a lot"!? You've been had!

                                  I was watching the movie "Frida" the other day. She married Diego Rivera who happened to lack all the features you mentioned above. Her parents thought the couple was like an elephant marrying a dove!!!

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                                    Salaamun alaikum Wakas, all,

                                    *there is a sign stating one should not change The God's creation but I personally do not interpret this sign in this way, others might.

                                    4119 "And I will misguide them and make them desire, and I will command them, so that they will mark the ears of the livestock, and I will command them so they will make change to God's creation." Whoever takes the devil as a supporter other than God, then he has indeed lost a great loss.
                                    4120 He promises them and makes them desire, but what the devil promises them is only vanity.

                                    The above signs clearly state that devil will command us to make changes to The God's creation and that whoever takes the devil as supporter other than The God is in a great loss.

                                    Brother Wakas, can you please explain how do you interpret this sign other than not to make any anatomical or genetic change in one's body, which is akin to plastic surgery or genetic recombination?

                                    Regards,

                                    Tanveer

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                                      Hello TAJ,

                                      "...that women like a lot"!? You've been had!

                                      I wish I was had!!
                                      Just kidding -)
                                      just a little unclean humour on my part -)

                                      But don't worry for a shapless-of-blob like me there is little chance of being had in any form or other -)

                                      Men and Women in my office are obssessed with body beautiful! They spend their lunch and evening going to the gym. Men call it "Beefcaking" !
                                      and women call it, "bum trimming" or something like that. I tried the gym once. Almost passed out on the exercise machine!! -)
                                      But here the Gym is a big business!

                                      I was watching the movie "Frida" the other day. She married Diego Rivera who happened to lack all the features you mentioned above. Her parents thought the couple was like an elephant marrying a dove!!!

                                      Hey I have not heard of Frida or Diego Rivera. Who are these people?

                                      And I see you changed your icon again. Can see the camels face clearly now. But what happened to the puppy?

                                      Regards,

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                                        The above signs clearly state that devil will command us to make changes to The God's creation and that whoever takes the devil as supporter other than The God is in a great loss.
                                        Tanveer

                                        Oh Tanveer, you are a spoil sport!

                                        Millions of people are not happy with the way they look!
                                        It seems it is such a human thing not to be satisfied in how you look.

                                        What is wrong with straigtening a bent nose for instance which gives that individual a sense of confidence in themselves?

                                        For me no amount of plastic surgery can help! But if I had only a crooked nose perhaps, yes I might consider it or perhaps not -)

                                        Regards,

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                                          peace tanveer,

                                          Assuming the translation is correct, I feel its referring to the balance within the creation. From what I've studied from 'the reading' of those who corrupt (i.e. disorder) the earth/order/justice etc. they go against the balance / transgress the boundaries/limits. It simply cannot be a blanket statement meaning no change to any part of The God's creation.

                                          Once we understand what attributes The God has instilled within the creation, then we can see what it means to change such a creation.

                                          Wakas

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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