Devout Sceptic
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Greetings All,
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Y.Ali O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses,- until leave is given you,- for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet he is ashamed to dismiss you, but Allah is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.R.Khalifa O you who believe, do not enter the prophet's homes unless you are given permission to eat, nor shall you force such an invitation in any manner. If you are invited, you may enter. When you finish eating, you shall leave; do not engage him in lengthy conversations. This used to hurt the prophet, and he was too shy to tell you. But GOD does not shy away from the truth. If you have to ask his wives for something, ask them from behind a barrier. This is purer for your hearts and their hearts. You are not to hurt the messenger of GOD. You shall not marry his wives after him, for this would be a gross offense in the sight of GOD.
Pickthal O Ye who believe! Enter not the dwellings of the Prophet for a meal without waiting for the proper time, unless permission be granted you. But if ye are invited, enter, and, when your meal is ended, then disperse. Linger not for conversation. Lo! that would cause annoyance to the Prophet, and he would be shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allah is not shy of the truth. And when ye ask of them (the wives of the Prophet) anything, ask it of them from behind a curtain. That is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not for you to cause annoyance to the messenger of Allah, nor that ye should ever marry his wives after him. Lo! that in Allah's sight would be an enormity.
Shakir O you who believe! do not enter the houses of the Prophet unless permission is given to you for a meal, not waiting for its cooking being finished-- but when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken the food, then disperse-- not seeking to listen to talk; surely this gives the Prophet trouble, but he forbears from you, and Allah does not forbear from the truth And when you ask of them any goods, ask of them from behind a curtain; this is purer for your hearts and (for) their hearts; and it does not behove you that you should give trouble to the Messenger of Allah, nor that you should marry his wives after him ever; surely this is grievous in the sight of Allah.
Literal You, you those who believed, do not enter the prophet's houses/homes except that (it) be permitted/allowed to you, not waiting to (for) feeding/food at it, and but if you were called/invited so enter, so if you ate so spread out (disperse), and not perceiving/seeing (expecting) to an information/speech (conversation), that, that was harming mildly the prophet, so he feels ashamed/shy from you, and God does not shame from the truth , and if you asked them (F) (for) belongings/effects/goods, so ask them (F) from behind/beyond a divider/partition , that is purer to your hearts/minds and their (F) hearts/minds , and (it) was not for you that you harm mildly God's messenger, and nor that you marry his wives from after him ever (E), that truly that was at God great .
This may have been raised before but I ask again. Why is God acting as Prophet's servant? can't the Prophet himself tell his followers not to enter his house and annoy him?
It is verses like this that makes me think that Quran is man-made.
I come to you as a sceptic in all matters of religious truth...
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SaLaM
Not only is this for the prophet, which was very very loved by God, but it also a tip from God to all the believers. How would you feel if i came to your house forcefully, and you were too shy to tell me go. And i just sat here and ate and took away ur time from your family? If im a believer in God, if i love God , if i follow his words, then i will know what to do. You wouldnt even have tell me to leave. I hope you understand
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SaLaM
How would you feel if i came to your house forcefully, and you were too shy to tell me go.So the Prophet's is too shy too tell them to leave his house?
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SaLaM
Not only is this for the prophet, which was very very loved by God, but it also a tip from God to all the believers. How would you feel if i came to your house forcefully, and you were too shy to tell me go. And i just sat here and ate and took away ur time from your family? If im a believer in God, if i love God , if i follow his words, then i will know what to do. You wouldnt even have tell me to leave. I hope you understand )
Peace Jaxal,
This "shyness" in the Prophet I find hard to believe.
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SaLaM DS
"Somthing are true weather you believe in them or not." I quote this ofcourse from City Of Angels, one of my Favourite movies.
If you have read the Quran, you would know that the prophet was a very humble man. A strong leader, yet a humble man. He was the messenger of God. God chose him for a reason. You wouldnt really expect a prophet telling you to leave his house so he can get some sleep, now would you? There are people even now, who will want to help others so much that they lose their own sleep over it, so to speak. Our prophet was one them. I wasnt around that time, but i can certainly give you an example.
For example, I go to the prophet's house to ask him for some advice. My problem is complex and requires much attention. At the same time, our prophet have spent his day giving advice to othe people and requires some sleep. Would it be fair for me to be totally inconsiderate of this fact, and go on and on about my own problem? Should a believer in God do such a thing? Ofcourse not, but when was the world fair. On the other hand, even tho the prophet is tired, he cannot ask you to leave JUST because he wants to get some sleep. He is, afterall, the messenger of God.
It is for this very reason that God gave us that verse. NOT just for the prophet, but for everyone. Nobody should force him/her self into another's house without their permission. Ive seen it happen, and i feel sory for the other person to be shy to tell them that now is not a good time. I hope this make more clear sense now )
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Greetings All,
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O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses,- until leave is given you,- for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet he is ashamed to dismiss you, but Allah is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.This may have been raised before but I ask again. Why is God acting as Prophet's servant? can't the Prophet himself tell his followers not to enter his house and annoy him?
It is verses like this that makes me think that Quran is man-made.
I come to you as a sceptic in all matters of religious truth...
I'm Glad you raised the subject. This is indeed a very strange verse.
Not only is this for the prophet, which was very very loved by God...
Who is "this" prophet then?
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Peace Jaxal!
SaLaM EL
He is the messenger of God who brought us the QuranI get the picture. So...do you have an aswers to the questions I stated, namely
Then who is this prophet Muhammad?
Where would I have known about him?
And how can you tell that he is the object for this instruction?...and as you mention it - how do you know the name of the person who brought us the quran? )
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SaLaM El
Im sorry for what i said. It just supprised me that you do not know who prophet Muhammad is. I will give you links to 2 articles which you can read and learn about our prophet. I am doing this because those article will giv you more information than i can )
Prophet Muhammad 1
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SaLaM El
Im sorry for what i said. It just supprised me that you do not know who prophet Muhammad is. I will give you links to 2 articles which you can read and learn about our prophet. I am doing this because those article will giv you more information than i can )
Not a problem man!
And thanx for the links. )What I meant is that there is no substance for a physical person that goes under the name of Muhammad in the Quran. Basically, because "muhammad" in the lecture is a noun and not a proper name.