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86.004 Protector From Jinns and Shaytans?

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    SwedenMajidah
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    Salaam,

    I think we shall be very careful with witchcrafts and black magic because so much evil is in this things.

    Why not trust the Almighty and let him guide and guard you from the evil ones.

    Peace
    Sis Majidah

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      savage_carrot
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      Peace bro Jafar,

      Thanks for the link!

      A sunni scholar once told me, there are other 'meanings' of Al-Falaq, it could also mean 'the period/border between the two', 'the period/border between changes' such as dark to light, night to day, day to night, light to dark and also the period/border between the future and the past or the shall and the was..

      Interestingly a jewish rabbi told me one of the 'meanings' of YHVH is He Who Was, Who Is and Shall be or He that fully control/posses the past, the present and the future.

      That's very interesting, I agree.

      My translation (literal)
      1134
      wa min syarii = and from evil / bad deeds / harm
      an-naffashati = who breath / blows
      feel ukhod = upon knots

      "The one who breath upon knots" <= here's the keyword... any suggestions on what it truly means?
      For the meantime, I go with Yusuf Ali's exegis, the one who do witchcraft..

      Knots in my extensive research on the occult (around 8 yrs back), are actually used in witchcraft as they call it...it's also something that has been around for a long time, in celtic cultures even our subcontinental culture...apparently something braided/knotted can be used as a focus or one could use something that belongs to the person...and the blowing is also involved in some instances...sooo, I really don't know, I found the alternative interesting as well...like blowing/disrupting knots/bonds. As long as 2102 is the way it is, it is bound to lend credence to the magic/sorcery...but it's out of my league at the moment

      Best Regards,
      Nadia

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        Jafar
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        I think we shall be very careful with witchcrafts and black magic because so much evil is in this things.

        Why not trust the Almighty and let him guide and guard you from the evil ones.

        Salaam sis Majidah

        One thing for certain, do not be affraid of them...dare them, scare them because they're also scared of human. And we human are not defenseless against them. Prophet Ibrahim threw stones at them and prophet Jesus Bdj. M.D (Bachelor of Djinnology and Master at Demonology) manages to kill some of them... proves that djinns and/or demons are not eternal beings or species.

        Maybe someday in the future, we could create a myriad of devices and weapons to detects, kill or maybe caught them all to a point of 'near extinction' twisted (And even build the 'Djinnies Park' !) And those pesky "Green Peace" activists will surely make a fuss over it and start their own "Save The Djinns" campaign. lol

        BTW is it "evil" to do "evil thing" to "evil"??

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          Jaxal
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          SaLaM Jafar

          BTW is it "evil" to do "evil thing" to "evil"??

          No it isnt.

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            Prince
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            I like this topic! Anymore input from anyone?? I believe witchcraft and sorcery is real.....can anyone provide me with quranic proof it isn't??

            PEACE

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              TheNabi
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              Salaam,

              From what I do know, witchcraft is the art of doing magic. Magic is not any of the hocus pocus the movies bring is. Magic the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will. This is how the sorcerers define it. So sure, it is real, but it is probably not as we concieve of it.

              Joe

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                Prince
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                ^^ I believe that's science of metaphysics. Label it what we want but its existence is real as the physical world.

                PEACE

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                  Jaxal
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                  SaLaM 2Pac

                  My grandmother used to tell me of a lady who lived in her nighbour hood when she was little. And she used black magic on other people to harm them. As a price, her kids died. She had 1 kid remaining and the people of the town had to hold her back and make her swear on her kid's life for her not to every practice black magic again.

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                    Natu
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                    Why can't it be the God? roll

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                      Jaxal
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                      SaLaM Natu

                      Who cant be God?

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                        Natu
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                        oops oops

                        posted in wrong thread, sorry.

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                          Prince
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                          ^^ HAHAHA that made me chuckle.

                          Yeh Jaxal shit like that happens but logical & reasonable people are quick to label it as superstition. But if your a believer(Mumin) you would believe in the Ghayb or the Unseen. Part of the connection we have with God is beyong logic and reason I read somewhere which does make sense personally.

                          PEACE

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                            Jaxal
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                            SaLaM 2Pac

                            I totally agree with you. There IS a 'Ghyab' and the unseen which we are unaware off. If God says its there, then who are we to argue with God?

                            Here is the verse from the Quran that proves the existance of Magic (well atleast for me)

                            And they followed what the devils recited regarding Solomon's kingship. Solomon did not reject, but it was the devils that rejected by teaching people magic, and teaching them what was sent down on the two Angels in Babylon, Haroot and Maroot. They did not teach anyone until they would say "We are a test, so do not lose faith!" Thus they teach what can separate between a person and his mate; but they cannot harm anyone except by God's permission. And they learn what harms them and does not benefit them, and they have known that he who purchases such has no place in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they purchased with their souls if only they knew!

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                              Prince
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                              I haven't come across a verse where "good magic" CANNOT be used. I have some detailed information on this kind of stuff like summoning jinns etc and its very interesting.

                              PEACE

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                                Jaxal
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                                SaLaM 2Pac

                                I just dont see why anyone would need to use magic. Even if it is 'good' magic.

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                                  Prince
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                                  Its a skill that not everyone possesses and it should be learned to counteract "bad magic" and to help people. It can also be used to develop closeness to God and the spiritual world that he has created.

                                  PEACE

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                                    Jaxal
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                                    SaLaM 2Pac

                                    Fair enough

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                                      Prince
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                                      ^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.

                                      PEACE

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                                        Jaxal
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                                        SaLaM 2Pac

                                        Completely agree with that.

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                                          salikahDC
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                                          ^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.

                                          PEACE

                                          I don't know if I completely agree. Humans may have the capability to do such, but they do not have the ability to do this type of travel and projection. However, I do believe everyone has the capability and ability for self realization...to understand the interconnectedness of all creation.

                                          I don't think that any magic is "good magic". We are talking about manipulating outcomes (by whatever medium) by will and that is just too risky for me.

                                          IMO, The greatest protection against devils and magic is you. And beside you, the God is your only protector and friend. You don't need magic
                                          -peace.

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