86.004 Protector From Jinns and Shaytans?
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SaLaM 2Pac
I totally agree with you. There IS a 'Ghyab' and the unseen which we are unaware off. If God says its there, then who are we to argue with God?
Here is the verse from the Quran that proves the existance of Magic (well atleast for me)
And they followed what the devils recited regarding Solomon's kingship. Solomon did not reject, but it was the devils that rejected by teaching people magic, and teaching them what was sent down on the two Angels in Babylon, Haroot and Maroot. They did not teach anyone until they would say "We are a test, so do not lose faith!" Thus they teach what can separate between a person and his mate; but they cannot harm anyone except by God's permission. And they learn what harms them and does not benefit them, and they have known that he who purchases such has no place in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed is what they purchased with their souls if only they knew!
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^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.
PEACE
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^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.
PEACE
I don't know if I completely agree. Humans may have the capability to do such, but they do not have the ability to do this type of travel and projection. However, I do believe everyone has the capability and ability for self realization...to understand the interconnectedness of all creation.
I don't think that any magic is "good magic". We are talking about manipulating outcomes (by whatever medium) by will and that is just too risky for me.
IMO, The greatest protection against devils and magic is you. And beside you, the God is your only protector and friend. You don't need magic
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Peace all,
Good magic, bad magic... I'm not saying it doesn't exist but i'd keep away even from "good" magic unless even prayer can be considered that...
But for the other point 2pacs raised
^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.i do agree. But i do not wish to develop these skills, am just plainly afraid of them! I had - as well as my daughter - some experience of third eye visions and prophetic dreams - but this is fortunately very rare. A good friend of mine is real medium or what you'd call psychic in the US...is not into magic though. That ability makes her very vulnerable at the same time and there is a strong correlation. So, even though i acknowledge the existence of spiritual world around us, i'd rather stay on firm grounds.
Elke
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^^Everyone has it within them I believe to get in touch with the astral/spiritual world....I believe its a natural instinct everyone was born with.....most peoples have lost that contact and become a slave to the physical world which God says is an illusion/not real.
PEACE
I don't know if I completely agree. Humans may have the capability to do such, but they do not have the ability to do this type of travel and projection. However, I do believe everyone has the capability and ability for self realization...to understand the interconnectedness of all creation.
I don't think that any magic is "good magic". We are talking about manipulating outcomes (by whatever medium) by will and that is just too risky for me.
IMO, The greatest protection against devils and magic is you. And beside you, the God is your only protector and friend. You don't need magic
-peace.Salaam Salikah!! Jaxal beat me to it. Read up about Astral Projection and you will see it IS possible and very real, real as this world and i'm talking from experience. The state you reach when meditating when you feel your in tune with the ONE is the state you reach to project. Everyone has it within them because everyone sleeps and we know our soul goes to God hence everyone has it within them to meditate and project.
Elke what you say is true but with everything maintaining balance is very important. The physical and spriitual world go hand in hand....we cannot ignore the spiritual world and stick to only the physical world. We are reminded in the Quran that this world is an illusion which leads me to believe we should be concentrating more on the spiritual world. Magic in my opinion is the way the spiritual world is operated and only seems magic to us as the laws are hidden sameway someone living in a jungle all their life would look at a car in amazement and not understand how it operates the way it does, it would seem magic to him/her.
PEACE
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Peace 2pac,
you said
we cannot ignore the spiritual world and stick to only the physical world. We are reminded in the Quran that this world is an illusion which leads me to believe we should be concentrating more on the spiritual world.Yessss, but.... quran also tells us that there are certain things we have no knowledge of and that it would hurt us if we tried to gain this knowledge. Sorry as usual, don't have the verse in mind, but believe this might be about magic, may be also reincarnation. The physical world around us is our test in this world and is sufficient for most of us. The spiritual side would then be only the search of getting closer to god by working on ourselves.
As i told you, this stuff really scares me shock .
Elke
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Hi bro jax
you already done it?
BTW tried to post another picture, had it downscaled right on my computer coz couldn't download the link you gave me....but didn't work.
See, even easy stuff can be hard for some D so think of AP !There has been another thread on that no?
Peace lk
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Hi Elke
There you go. This is the original thread started by bro 2Pac
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4012&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
You can go to the links he provided and learn more. Unfortunately, i havent had any such experiance yet. But that doesnt mean that cannot be done. I aimed for Astral Projection and ended up Lucid Dreaming LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL ...
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Stick with it bro Jaxal I haven't had the chance to just tooo lazy and sleeping instead of practicing but inshallah you can from dreaming enter astral projection if you know your dreaming(called lucid dreaming). Good Luck let me know how you get on but I'm going to try it tonight actually. Elke give it a try mami and see how it feels wink
PEACE