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    mquran
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    Salaam Someone,

    There is no 'yaa ayyuhal muslimeen' in al-quraan.

    I dont understand your logic though? Why does the address need to exist in order for there to be a group?

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      Someone
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      Peace mquran,

      I just got that question in mind while reading your post, and I was 'surprised' that I couldn't find any verse addressing "al-muslimine". Isn't it intriguing somehow?

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        zenje
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        Isn't it intriguing somehow?
        Very hmm

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          Wakas
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          peace All,

          Could it be that al-muslimeen are not the direct audience/upholders of al-quran? Those who are upholding al-quran are al-mumineen.

          ?

          Wakas

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            mquran
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            Salaamun alaikum,

            SomeoneI just got that question in mind while reading your post, and I was 'surprised' that I couldn't find any verse addressing "al-muslimine". Isn't it intriguing somehow?

            Well, in my case, i'd built up such a preconception about 'al-muslimeen' so yes, I found it most curious. However, upon checking with al-quraan, I saw that 'al-muslimeen' was the generic term of one who took up Ibrahim's millat. The Islamic movement is represented by 'bani israil'.

            Wakas Could it be that al-muslimeen are not the direct audience/upholders of al-quran? Those who are upholding al-quran are al-mumineen.

            I havent seen a connecting word at all for al-mumineen and al-quraan. If you have, I'd love to see it. The thing is, the 'articles of belief' include 'al-kitaab' and not 'al-quraan'.

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              Wakas
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              peace mq,

              There is a definite link between al-mumineen and al-quran.

              The following articles are decent
              http//www.free-minds.org/articles/gods_system/thetrust.htm
              http//www.free-minds.org/articles/gods_system/mumin.htm

              Not to mention the regular/timed slw is always addressed to al-mumineen.

              Wakas

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                mquran
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                Peace Wakas,

                Sorry, I couldn't find it in either article. Maybe it's me.

                What do you suppose as-salaat has to do with al-quraan?

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                  Wakas
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                  peace mq,

                  the book of reference for al-mumineen is al-quran.

                  If you cannot find some examples, here are some 1698, 179, 1782

                  Also, please see the following, for the relationshp between slw and al-quran
                  http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/slw.htm

                  It all comes together, when one ponders on al-HJJ for example. Establishing/upholding the regular bond/slw/reading seems an excellent way to form an army of people who will know al-quran and thus be able to participate in al-HJJ.

                  Wakas

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    mquran
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                    Peace Wakas,

                    Sorry, im actually looking for the word almumineen. I cant assume its referring to them unless it says so. Thanks anyway.

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                      Wakas
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                      peace mq,

                      Ahh, I forgot about your "al" thing wink (which I quite like btw, and am studying)

                      Even though 179 contained al-mumineen, here are some more 297, 2285.

                      Will that suffice?

                      If not, I should mention all the occurrences of the root Alif-Miim-Nun and Qaf-Ra-Alif are in PRL for all to check.

                      Wakas

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        mquran
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                        Peace Wakas,

                        Ahh, I forgot about your "al" thing (which I quite like btw, and am studying)

                        MY 'al' thing ? It's God's 'al' thing

                        Even though 179 contained al-mumineen, here are some more 297, 2285.

                        Will that suffice?

                        I saw it contained the word, yes but what Im looking for is the exclusivity of al-quraan with al-mumineen. I.e. al-mumineen must believe in al-quraan to be so.

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                          Wakas
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                          peace mq,

                          Well, I have not gone through all the references. The ones I came across were basically tying al-quran for/to al-mumineen etc. I'm sure there will be stronger implications out there, but like I said I have not gone through all of them. They are there for all to research if they wish.

                          Wakas

                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                            Amina315
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                            I am here because I am interested in open, forward thinking dialogue with other "progressive" minded muslims. I'm finding it difficult to find an online community that is moderate...it seems many are either extremely zealous and filled with bidah and fitnah...and others are so secular that they do not truly seem to understand the lifestyle and ultimate goals of true muslims. I'm hoping to find others with whom I share a similar perspective and to learn from those who hold different points of views. Ultimately everything is a quest for strengthened iman, thus I'm hoping that finding a comfortable place online among fellow ummah will help to strengthen my iman, insha'Allah.

                            It's nice to "meet" all of you...

                            Masalaama,

                            Amina

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                              Ming-Lo
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                              Salam,

                              I came here so i could talk to others who follow God alone, Quran Alone, and be able to share this concept, withour ridicule and a long speach on how i need the Hadith and etc... roll

                              At first I used to go on Submission.org.....but the whole 19 thing and taking verse out of the Quran thing didn't really appeal to me much at all ? ....so I searched around for a site that still had the God alone,Quran alone belief, but with out the code 19 stuff....and now I'm here! D

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                                Mel_Funktion
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                                The members pictures thread obviusly, damn those sisters are hot shock . A shame though that the brothers seem to match them But there are altso some really good articles, and I like the debate that goes on.

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                                  Jaxal
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                                  The members pictures thread obviusly, damn those sisters are hot shock . A shame though that the brothers seem to match them But there are altso some really good articles, and I like the debate that goes on.

                                  Loooooll that is sooo funnnnyy rotfl

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    The members pictures thread obviusly, damn those sisters are hot shock . A shame though that the brothers seem to match them But there are altso some really good articles, and I like the debate that goes on.

                                    It seems that BEAUTY is a good seller of the FREE-MINDS forum, we don't need anything else!!!! -)

                                    Regards,

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                                      Ming-Lo
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                                      The members pictures thread obviusly, damn those sisters are hot shock . A shame though that the brothers seem to match them But there are altso some really good articles, and I like the debate that goes on.

                                      LLLLLOOOOOLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! rotfl ur funny! lol

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                                        SwedenMajidah
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                                        Salaam Mel Funktion,

                                        He He nice that u are at least honest lol

                                        And of course we girls are hot wink

                                        Peace Sis Majidah

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                                          Vizard
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                                          Its the articles on the site. The members here have ranges of thoughts & values to contribute, I'm coming back always to get a bigger exposure to the religion.

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