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    Jaxal
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    SaLaM KGB

    Yes I do believe that Allah will provide help if we start following Qur'an.

    Allah will give us help if we ask for it. NOT if we follow the Quran. I know christians and jews who dont follow the Quran and yet God helps them wink

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      mquran
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      Salaamun alaikum KGB,

      Yes I do believe that Allah will provide help if we start following Qur'an.

      Correct. Allah says it's incumbent (kataba Allah, 30/47) to help the believers. One of the characteristics of a believer is that he hears, and he obeys (2/285). What does he hear ? The sayings of the messenger , (69/40).

      My point is, the program of al-quraan demands someone there to practise it and fertilise its information among the believers. That person, whatever you want to call him, acts the role of what al-quraan calls 'ar-rasool'.

      thanks and peace.

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        KGB
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        Salaam Alleikum MQuran

        I will read the message again and lets see that will change my mind. inshaAllah.

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          mquran
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          Salaam KGB,

          Doesn't matter if you disagree either. We're here to share information. It's only people who are here to vent frustrations, impress others and simply verbal masturbation we need to look out for.

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            unknownuser
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            Salaam KGB,
            Doesn't matter if you disagree either. We're here to share information. It's only people who are here to vent frustrations, impress others and simply verbal masturbation we need to look out for.

            Please we don't want none of that! Now wash your mouth out with soap!!!
            -)

            Regards,

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              KGB
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              Salaam Alleikum MQuran

              I started to look for the Prophethood and Messangership in Qur'an and did find interesting verses. I will take time to gather compile and put my understanding into words which I am not very good at.

              MQuran, I will not say anything on the forum to please you or anybody else, so whatever I write in blunt undeplomatic way is what I firmly believe.

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                mquran
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                Salaamun alaikum KGB,

                I started to look for the Prophethood and Messangership in Qur'an and did find interesting verses. I will take time to gather compile and put my understanding into words which I am not very good at.

                It's all about the process, all about the process. If you're sincere, God
                will guide.

                MQuran, I will not say anything on the forum to please you or anybody else, so whatever I write in blunt undeplomatic way is what I firmly believe
                .

                Very good. There are people on the forum who post to impress and are brash and loud, but you're not one of them. It's a pleasure speaking to you.

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                  mquran
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                  Please we don't want none of that! Now wash your mouth out with soap!!!

                  I said verbal , old chap. v-e-r-b-a-l !

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                    KGB
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                    Salaam Alleikum MQuran

                    I am really enjoying contructive discussion with you. We may never agree on issues but sure I am in the company of learned person who is helping me to increase my knowledge about the message and every day learning meaning of new Arabic words. Thank you MQuran.

                    Regarding the Prophethood we are discussing here I started reading Sura Aal Imran 3164 but Allah Taala guided me to read the whole Sura and I find very interesting verses. I am not finish with the message only read Sura Aal Imran and An Nissah. I will go through the rest of Qur'an inshaAllah soon.

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                      mquran
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                      Salaamun alaikum,

                      I am really enjoying contructive discussion with you. We may never agree on issues but sure I am in the company of learned person who is helping me to increase my knowledge about the message and every day learning meaning of new Arabic words. Thank you MQuran

                      You give me too much credit there. I'm here to learn as much as anyone. The key thing is to keep stimulating each other with information while continuing to be a good person. If only I had as much humility as Kyle, Wakas or Joe.

                      Regarding the Prophethood we are discussing here I started reading Sura Aal Imran 3164 but Allah Taala guided me to read the whole Sura and I find very interesting verses. I am not finish with the message only read Sura Aal Imran and An Nissah. I will go through the rest of Qur'an inshaAllah soon.

                      Notice how Ali-imran builds up to the conflict which is led by the messenger. This is what strenghtens my belief in the need for such a personality. One who keeps inculcating in the believers the message. I honestly don't mind if this guy doesn't call himself a messenger, as long as he acts in the manner al-quraan commands him.

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                        SwedenMajidah
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                        Salaam MQ,

                        You saidNotice how Ali-imran builds up to the conflict which is led by the messenger. This is what strenghtens my belief in the need for such a personality. One who keeps inculcating in the believers the message. I honestly don't mind if this guy doesn't call himself a messenger, as long as he acts in the manner al-quraan commands him.

                        What do you mean!? Are u talking about the surah Al-Imran or the person Ali Imran!?

                        Peace Sis Maria D

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                          mquran
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                          What do you mean!? Are u talking about the surah Al-Imran or the person Ali Imran!?

                          Chapter 3 of the quran. I don't even know the person ali imran!

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                            SwedenMajidah
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                            Salaam MQ,

                            Hey u are twisting your words brother shock

                            It was I who didn't understand what u wrote now it is the opposite o

                            But you did wrote Ali Imran not Al Imran ?

                            Well Ok SORRY!!!!!!!

                            Peace Sis Maria

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                              mquran
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                              Hmm, isnt chapter 3's name ALI imraan ? Did I mispell or something ?

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                                SwedenMajidah
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                                Salaam MQ,

                                Well it is written in that Quran I have Al-i-Imran D

                                Peace Sis Maria

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                                  mquran
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                                  Maybe the guy's name is actually ALI and his dad's name is Imran?

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                                    SwedenMajidah
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                                    Salaam Mq,

                                    He he yeah maybe

                                    Peace Sis Maria

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Please we don't want none of that! Now wash your mouth out with soap!!!

                                      I said verbal , old chap. v-e-r-b-a-l !

                                      Still sounds smutty chap! wink
                                      I insist you wash your mouth with soap or your words!!! -)

                                      Regards,

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                                        Ali_Omar
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                                        Dear M_Mehdi,

                                        Definitions of ?sect? no. 1 and 3, that you mentioned, fit any humans forming a group of two or more individuals.

                                        For instance, any football team is by these definitions a sect, as they are ?a group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice?. )

                                        And they are ?a faction united by common interests or beliefs?. )

                                        It also fits a ?double-team? in tennis, and the same in any other team sports. Actually it also goes for individuals in any sports or other activity, as long as the sport/activity has more than one member. lol

                                        The only definition that may be more specific is definition no. 2 which is mentioning a ?religious body?.

                                        All we have to do is to clarify, ?what is religion? and voila, certitude is there, FM is, or is not, a sect as per definition 2.

                                        Maybe you can shed some light on the subject?

                                        Regds

                                        Ali Omar

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          I have become fond of the premise of this forum

                                          as have i... )

                                          Very good. But then whats the problem chap? -)

                                          Regards,

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