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    True_Blue
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    Absolutely, GOD's allies have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

    They are those who believe and lead a righteous life.

    For them, joy and happiness in this world, as well as in the Hereafter. This is GOD's unchangeable law. Such is the greatest triumph.

    Reading these verses, I am wondering, there are several people who believe (yes, true monotheism) and lead a righteous life but are not happy nor are their lives filled with pure joy. Is this is God's unchangeable law or do "happiness and joy" mean something completley different than the way we humans comprehend these two words?

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      TheNabi
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      Peace

      What do you understand by happiness in a transient world?

      Joe

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        Peace be upon you,

        Happiness comes from KNOWING. From being secure in the answers of life. Happiness comes from a life of ORDER, when you KNOW what you are here on earth to do and you submit peacefully to your destiny.

        Its not done through a life of trying to avoid challenges, it comes from being at PEACE(SALAAM) through even the worst of challenges knowing that the God has laid out a plan for you and it is the crossroads of life that make you stronger. Most people are unhappy because they dont accept thier role in this world, they always cry "Why me??" Instead of "We are God's and to God we are returning", (by programming the righteous attributes into our spirits).

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          Peace,

          Djenna is a state of being, which can be experienced in its first phase, here in this life. Believing in God alone is only the starting point. This 'believing in one God is enough' ideology is nonsense. It is a whole package. Believing in one God is only the basis from where all your decisions, observations and experiences have their origins in. This belief will make you help to make the right decisions. It will not immediatly make your life better. This is something you have to do yourself. And this is attained through following the Quran.

          Happiness is as much a decisions as it something to be attained. Happiness, bliss is attained by creating peace in your soul, whatever the surroundings.

          1. ?O you soul which is peaceful.?
          2. ?Return to your Lord happy and content.?
          3. ?And enter in amongst My servants.?
          4. ?And enter My Paradise.?
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            Al-Quraishi
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            Happiness comes from KNOWING. From being secure in the answers of life. Happiness comes from a life of ORDER, when you KNOW what you are here on earth to do and you submit peacefully to your destiny.

            Pretty much answers the question, there have been statistical readings taken of the general mental state of pious Muslims (Imams etc) which shows that they are more likely to lead a longer life and have less chance of developing mental illness.

            There are also many benefits of forgiving people (psychologically) and salat. Pretty much the whole system of conduct in Islam, if you hold true to it, is incredibly beneficial apparently.

            I would also like to add (in case people aren't too sure about these pseudo-statistics) when I read them at the time, I was able to confer with them on a personal basis as I myself have never been happier from KNOWING as idolfree has so skilfully put it. Even such things as terrible hardships become incredibly easy without the psychological after effects when you understand the way the whole system works.

            Alhamdullilahi Rab Al-?Alimeen

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              Tay
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              Peace TruBlue,

              You stated

              ...there are several people who believe (yes, true monotheism) and lead a righteous life but are not happy nor are their lives filled with pure joy.

              As Kyle said, there is a tremendous difference between "believing" and "knowing".

              Peace,
              Tay

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                Al-Quraishi
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                ...there are several people who believe (yes, true monotheism) and lead a righteous life but are not happy nor are their lives filled with pure joy.

                I don't know who said this but whoever it was could they please give some examples?

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                  True_Blue
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                  Thank you everyone for responding to my message. I guess what I am trying to understand is that if God has promised us perfect happiness, then why are we not happy? Why are there people in this world facing so many hardships?

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                    Tay
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                    Peace TrueBlue,

                    if God has promised us perfect happiness, then why are we not happy? Why are there people in this world facing so many hardships?

                    Dig a little deeper. If it's the evidence you're looking for, then you shouldn't start with the premise. Example All rabbits have four legs. To find a rabbit, do you look for every animal with four legs?

                    Happiness and joy and true love/compassion are signs that one is in tune with God. Find these people and you'll find the "us" that you mentioned above.

                    Peace,
                    Tay

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                      Easy true blue and all. Happiness can come from appropriate cause and effect creating the right conditions to make us humans feel 'satisfaction'. Happiness is somewhat subjective,and definately is not related to belief or even 'knowing' one god... when my children are happy i feel happy,nothing to do with beliefs...Many religious and/or monotheistic people are desperately stressed and unhappy...

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                        Hello 'enquirer',

                        Many religious and/or monotheistic people are desperately stressed and unhappy...

                        Very true. And that is because they are desperately seeking and faking about something that they themselves do not know. They think that a written book came floating down on a magic carpet steered by Ali Baba and protected by forty thieves whom the Muslims have taken full custody and now they can't live their lives without it. When life is all good and dandy, the God becomes all-merciful but when life becomes shattered, children born deformed, innocent people getting massacred and families torn apart, properties destroyed, and when nature gets abused by earthquakes, tsunamis, thunderstorms, and when sufferings become unexpected, all becomes a TEST of patience by crying out loud to this all-merciful God to come save them from this agony and become merciful. The price of happiness is dearer-paid by the virtues of living a righteous life as dictated by the call of reality in which one lives and that is the way of life. Just pay the price you can afford. You either live it or you don't.

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                          xthug
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                          Absolutely, GOD's allies have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

                          They are those who believe and lead a righteous life.

                          For them, joy and happiness in this world, as well as in the Hereafter. This is GOD's unchangeable law. Such is the greatest triumph.

                          Reading these verses, I am wondering, there are several people who believe (yes, true monotheism) and lead a righteous life but are not happy nor are their lives filled with pure joy. Is this is God's unchangeable law or do "happiness and joy" mean something completley different than the way we humans comprehend these two words?

                          i'm understanding that by "allies" it also means friends.
                          God chooses who's closest to Him. just by being a Monothiest doesnt mean your an Ally/friend to the Almighty.
                          also "happiness and joy" could very easily mean divine guidance.
                          "joy and happiness" in this dimension has diferent limits and charachteristics then "joy and happiness" in the hearafter.

                          God knows best.

                          peace, ex

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                            lovelymoslems
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                            Happines and joy = Kingdom of Allah whereby Allah - thru implementation of His deen - will bless men forever.

                            It is not a kind personal happiness but social justice, eligality, prosperity, harmonius because life is managed by Allah's deen.

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                              Peace be upon you,

                              Thank you everyone for responding to my message. I guess what I am trying to understand is that if God has promised us perfect happiness, then why are we not happy? Why are there people in this world facing so many hardships?

                              The biggest problem is that people are looking for "happiness" in objects/material world. Happinnesss is the proper management of your spirit(nafs). Its all about your RESPONSE to the situations in life. The same thing happens to two people and they noth respond differently, WHY? Because the spirit is by nature unconditioned, therefore can be conditioned in any way. Happiness comes from the ability to be at PEace in any circumstance. (May Peace be upon you).

                              Most people are "waiting to exhale", thinking that happiness comes with that new house, new spouse, big money, etc. But when they get it, they go "wooo hoooo", then very soon that "feeling" is gone and they are in search of the next goal that will make them "happy" again. Thats the illusion of this world. True happiness is within.

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                                lovelymoslems
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                                Happiness as per al Quran nothing refer to personal happines but a community happines by which men surrender to Allah's arrangement in managing their social, economical, political, govermental acts whreby no poverties, social gaps, injustice are found. The social is life something called as mizan (harmonius, justice, equality etc).

                                It would be happen if Allah send Apostle amongst us, again...

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                                  Peace be upon you LM,

                                  Happiness as per al Quran nothing refer to personal happines but a community happines by which men surrender to Allah's arrangement in managing their social, economical, political, govermental acts whreby no poverties, social gaps, injustice are found.

                                  I disagree. Where have you seen such a community? Even in the stories of this reading, the communities were againt the prophets and messengers, thier groups were always a small group. Most of us if not all of us will go through this life without every being part of such a community, so will we go through life unhappy?

                                  Happiness is a state of mind dependent on how you respond to the trials of life. While it can be and should be a community thing, it starts individually, and the bottom line is that even if the whole world was wiped out and there was just YOU, you should be able to achieve "happiness".

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    peace,

                                    I think people have a limited understanding of "happiness" and "joy"....

                                    just becasue someone may not look happy to the outsier doenst mean he/she isnt happy..

                                    everyone ahs ups and downs every human is just that human and ahs flaws and has trials and not everyone passes them smiling.....

                                    happiness is not something constant.....liek continual smiling..

                                    i tend to say from my own personal experience it is a contentment...

                                    when you forget God that happiness or contentness may fade but the verse doesnt say they are happy at every single second of the day

                                    what if someone was a true beleiver

                                    and they got hurt physically do you not expect them to say owwwwww or cringe in pain...

                                    is happinessa physical look or action or something inside that you can not possibly distingush who has it and who doesnt

                                    isnt that why you can tell the hypocrite from the way they talk

                                    not how they look

                                    cuz you cant tell who is a beleiver from looks
                                    or actions

                                    but from how they speak....

                                    if you are content and yes beleiving in the next life and knowing it is two way different things

                                    beleiving it is simple as saying yeah i beleive in it

                                    knowing it means to me to try and be consciously aware of it as much as possible and thus leads to different choices and actions and feelings

                                    greive...

                                    when i was a so called muslim a sunni or shias depending on when you knew me

                                    i greived graetly for my lost family memebers who died all close toghether..

                                    but after trying to follow quran alone when my step dad died

                                    you dont greive you know
                                    everything is done for a reason and you dont just beleive in the next life you know inside it exists as if it isnt a "movie" or abstract idea but you know without doubt they are not truly forever gone and you know that this isnt the only life

                                    therefore grieving seems illogical

                                    why grieve for someone who will be brought back toghether

                                    why greive for someone who simply moved to another stage i havent got to yet

                                    you know not just believe you know for sure

                                    this isnt the end for them or me

                                    so why greive?

                                    it literally became impossible....

                                    so i dont think it is a constant smiling but a contentment

                                    and when you look into the sky and see the creations of God and you not just beleive that God made it but reall really know

                                    there is a calm sense of joy

                                    an overwhelming feeling that makes you feel joy sometimes to the point where ones eyes fill with tears

                                    becasue the joy that someone somehting other than you other than this life somehting thought about us and amde all ths for us

                                    the fact that they even made us blows your mind and gives you absolute joy and peace....inshaAllah when you beleive this doesnt esscarly change your thinking process but when you have no doubt the quran becomes your thinking process therefore you have no fears no grieving no sadness no doubt

                                    it literally becomes the furqan

                                    it literally floats around in your mind at all times and you can not doubt for you know its true

                                    even if oyu beleive in one God if you think
                                    other thoughts like
                                    maybe there isnt a next life maybe the hell isnt literal etc

                                    you begin to question and yu begin to lose the furqan thus doubt to me would equal the lack of joy and happiness

                                    Amanda

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                                      Peace be upon you,

                                      It is very simple. Most people move from Pleasure to Pain, Pain to Pleasure. Happiness is a life that moves from pleasure to Peace, Peace to pleasure.

                                      When you have it, ENJOY IT, when its lost or gone, be at peace. Thats happiness

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