The pork before Islam
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PEACE, IDOL,
I've never seen a medu netcher representation of Set in which he looks like a pig. Could you please provide a link showing where he does have the actual face of a pig? I don't believe you can find such picture.
The below hieroglyphic is located in EDFU Temple. It depicts the batle of Heru(Horus) and Set(Seth). Set being our animal(emotional) nature must be subdued. For example, we do not let the horse drag us around, we train and mount the horse and direct it, this is what we do with our emotions, as Solomon's story teaches us. The Bible says "get ye BEHIND me satan(animal nature). Anyway, here's the carving! D
..a confirmation of what came before it....
http//i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/idolfree1/horus_defeating_seth_edfu_temple.jpg
Listen, there is NO WAY that the animal in that picture is a pig. Anyway, no anthropomorphic representation of Set, portrays him with the head of pig. If I'm wrong, then post a Kemetan medu netcher where this can be seen.
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Peace be upon you PB,
Listen, there is NO WAY that the animal in that picture is a pig
I see. So what exactly do you think it is? I have given ample evidence that it is a pig and that a pig represented "Set", among other symbols.
Anyway, no anthropomorphic representation of Set, portrays him with the head of pig. If I'm wrong, then post a Kemetan medu netcher where this can be seen.
I have already provided what you said could not be provided, If you chose too see differently, then that is your choice. I have no intention of making you believe what is right in your vision.
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PEACE, IDOL.
PBM Listen, there is NO WAY that the animal in that picture is a pig. Anyway, no anthropomorphic representation of Set, portrays him with the head of pig. If I'm wrong, then post a Kemetan medu netcher where this can be seen.
I see. So what exactly do you think it is? I have given ample evidence that it is a pig and that a pig represented "Set", among other symbols. I have already provided what you said could not be provided, If you chose too see differently, then that is your choice. I have no intention of making you believe what is right in your vision
Oh, will you stop already with you provided the evidence nonsense, please. You can run that nonsense on the kids a rounf her, but not me. I used to belong to the "African Society for the Study of African Civilization" and have heard all of the scholars at the "First World Lectures", in Harlem. I, as with yourself if you be honest about it, have no idead what that creature is that picture, but it certainly isn't a pig. If Set, has the head of as pig, then SIMPLY please post the anthropomorphic picture with him having the head of a pig. What is the problem?? Either you can do this or you cannot, which is it? If you could restrain your ego for once, you would know that...KNOW ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HEAD OF SET IS.
Check these pictures out
PIG'S HEAD
http//www.y108.com/cgi-script/csNews/image_upload/Morning_20Show_20Photos_2edb.pig%20head%202.jpg
http//www.lancenich.f9.co.uk/images/Pig%20stick_WEB.jpg
http//www.edwards-enterprises.com/images/6777840-PigHead.jpg
another image
SET'S HEAD
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&p=60285
http//members.aol.com/egyptart/myth/seth.JPG
http//www.edgeofthecircle.com/picts/storepics/NONAME08.gif
http//guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/15972/images/Set.JPG
http//www.nekhebet.com/images/r_gods3_5.gif
http//www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/set.gif
Can you tell the difference? wink
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Peace be upon you PB,
Oh, will you stop already with you provided the evidence nonsense, please. You can run that nonsense on the kids a rounf her, but not me.
Interesting comment.
I used to belong to the "African Society for the Study of African Civilization" and have heard all of the scholars at the "First World Lectures", in Harlem. I
"do not make your scholars your gods" , does that ring a bell? Its not just for you to tell others that.
as with yourself if you be honest about it, have no idead what that creature is that picture, but it certainly isn't a pig.
I can speak for myself. It looks like a pig and since here is much evidence to support this, I take it as a pig. Further, your statement makes no sense, first you say you have NO IDEA, then you say Certainly not a pig?? If you have NO IDEA, how can you rule out the pig? That makes no sense.
If Set, has the head of as pig, then SIMPLY please post the anthropomorphic picture with him having the head of a pig. What is the problem??
There is no problem, because I have already given what I intended to give. Your acceptance of it has no beaing on me, never has.
Either you can do this or you cannot, which is it? If you could restrain your ego for once, you would know that...KNOW ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HEAD OF SET IS.
You better go back to the latest "World Lecture".
Please give a list of your respected scholars if you intend to take this further.
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PEACE, IDOL,
Oh, will you stop already with you provided the evidence nonsense, please. You can run that nonsense on the kids a rounf her, but not me.
Interesting comment.
Quite...and accurate too.
"do not make your scholars your gods" , does that ring a bell? Its not just for you to tell others that.
??? Why would they be gods?? There isn't ONE credible African American scholar or Euro/Euro American scholar that, has ever definitively stated that SET's head was a pig.
PBM as with yourself if you be honest about it, have no idead what that creature is that picture, but it certainly isn't a pig.
I can speak for myself. It looks like a pig and since here is much evidence to support this, I take it as a pig.
Produce the evidence then from a credible African American scholar and/or Euro/Euro American scholar, who DEFINITIVELY states that SET's head is that of a pig, thanks. Betcha can't do it lol
Further, your statement makes no sense, first you say you have NO IDEA, then you say Certainly not a pig?? If you have NO IDEA, how can you rule out the pig? That makes no sense.
My comment makes perfect sense, it is your that doesn't, here, let me refresh your memory
IDOL FREE I KNOW THAT THE PIG was a heiroglyphic symbol to represent your animal nature that must be overcome (SET), just like the so called SPHINX(part animal part man). This is how I take the instructions right now because why are we forbidden pork and not red meat for example.
Well, seeing that YOU KNOW, then the burden of proof is ON YOU to PROVE you claim, which you have not done. So, my above comment makes perfect sense, because I don't KNOW what it is, but I KNOW it isn't and I know what a pig looks like and that aint a pig lol Now, your above claim that you KNOW what SET's head is, makes no sense, hence, it is nonsense because you cannot DEFINITIVELY prove your assertion...agreed?
PBM If Set, has the head of as pig, then SIMPLY please post the anthropomorphic picture with him having the head of a pig. What is the problem??
There is no problem, because I have already given what I intended to give. Your acceptance of it has no beaing on me, never has.
Yup, just as I thought, here comes the denial speeches. lol
PBM Either you can do this or you cannot, which is it? If you could restrain your ego for once, you would know that...NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HEAD OF SET IS!
You better go back to the latest "World Lecture".
nope , I'm asking you, so you back up your claim and you tell me, if you can. wink
You really do need to reign in your ego sometimes, dude. wink
Please give a list of your respected scholars if you intend to take this further.
LOL!!!! What, are you kidding me? lol Look, it is you, who claims to KNOW what the head of SET is, so, you bring your list of scholars to prove your assertion. The burden of proof is on you not me, because...YOU KNOW. lol
I'm wait
Peace to you.
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Peace be upon you PB,
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"do not make your scholars your gods" , does that ring a bell? Its not just for you to tell others that.??? Why would they be gods?? There isn't ONE credible African American scholar or Euro/Euro American scholar that, has ever definitively stated that SET's head was a pig.
Why do you keep saying "sets head"? I am telling you that the principle SET is represented by a pig, amongst several animals. I have stated that the hieroglyphic I sent you symmbolizes set as a pig, the ENTIRE PIG, not some symbol called "set" that was given the head of a pig. So why do you keep saying "Sets head"??
Produce the evidence then from a credible African American scholar and/or Euro/Euro American scholar, who DEFINITIVELY states that SET's head is that of a pig, thanks. Betcha can't do it
As far as credible African American Scholars, I can reference Ra Un Nefer Amen, author of the best seller "Metu Neter Vol 1 and 2", King of the Ausar Auset Society
Ausar Auset Society
Founded in the mid-1970s by R.A. Straughn, the former head of the Rosicrucian Anthroposophical League, the Ausar Auset Society is a Rosicrucian body that serves the black community of the United States. Its periodical the Metu Neter features information of general interest to black people, as well as occult topics. Free public classes are offered by the Society in such places as New York City, Brooklyn, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Haven, Washington, DC, and Norfolk, VA (Melton, 1996 71.Quote
Further, your statement makes no sense, first you say you have NO IDEA, then you say Certainly not a pig?? If you have NO IDEA, how can you rule out the pig? That makes no sense.Quote
Please give a list of your respected scholars if you intend to take this further.LOL!!!! What, are you kidding me? Look, it is you, who claims to KNOW what the head of SET is, so, you bring your list of scholars to prove your assertion. The burden of proof is on you not me, because...YOU KNOW.
I guess I am wondwering while you are using the World Lecture as a referece but cannot name any of the scholars so I can verify your claim that none of them understands thatset is symbolized by a pig as well as other animals.
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Peace be upon you Marie,
Actually..there was no "before islam".
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Peace all,
I must say I was surprised at creating a thread I had never even heard of!
But interesting discussion none the less.I can speak for myself. It looks like a pig and since here is much evidence to support this, I take it as a pig. Further, your statement makes no sense, first you say you have NO IDEA, then you say Certainly not a pig?? If you have NO IDEA, how can you rule out the pig? That makes no sense.
It seems piglike, though if you look at the hooves, they seem divided into more segments than one? Artistic license?
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Peace be upon you Marie,
Initially, I was just trying to remind you and us all, but I think I will change the name to be correct. Thank you for removing this side conversation to its own location so I can deal with PB effectively without disrupting the initial conversation.
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Peace be upon yuo all,
Here are more sights connecting SET(the evil principle) with the SYMBOLISM of the PIG.
http//www.touregypt.net/featurestories/set.htm
Following is from the coffin text
http//www.earth-history.com/Egypt/myths-horuspig.htmhttp//www.infomideast.com/mythology/godsmyth07.html
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PEACE, IDOL,
Why do you keep saying "sets head"? I am telling you that the principle SET is represented by a pig, amongst several animals. I have stated that the hieroglyphic I sent you symmbolizes set as a pig, the ENTIRE PIG, not some symbol called "set" that was given the head of a pig. So why do you keep saying "Sets head"??
Why do you like to play so many boring games, what is it with you, man? Set, is represented as is Anubis and other neters, in an anthropomorphic fashion, hence, if the pig was representative of Set, then he would have the head of a pig, just as Anubis has the head of jackel.
Produce the evidence then from a credible African American scholar and/or Euro/Euro American scholar, who DEFINITIVELY states that SET's head is that of a pig, thanks. Betcha can't do it
As far as credible African American Scholars, I can reference Ra Un Nefer Amen, author of the best seller "Metu Neter Vol 1 and 2", King of the Ausar Auset Society
Ausar Auset Society
Founded in the mid-1970s by R.A. Straughn, the former head of the Rosicrucian Anthroposophical League, the Ausar Auset Society is a Rosicrucian body that serves the black community of the United States. Its periodical the Metu Neter features information of general interest to black people, as well as occult topics. Free public classes are offered by the Society in such places as New York City, Brooklyn, Chicago, Philadelphia, New Haven, Washington, DC, and Norfolk, VA (Melton, 1996 71.Wow! Occult people/organizations, very credible stuff, Idol. lol Anyway, where are the definitive quotes from these people that Set, is represented by the pig. Let's have a look see at what they say. I will check Ra' book.
I guess I am wondwering while you are using the World Lecture as a referece but cannot name any of the scholars so I can verify your claim that none of them understands thatset is symbolized by a pig as well as other animals.
Don't trouble yourself about why I raised the First World Lectures. Your task is to prove your claim that Set, is represented by the pig. Because you know this for fact, the burden of proof is on you, please keep that in mind. Let's see what ya got. wink
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Peace be upon you,
I have given you the image and backed it up with the very words written in stone, as well as producing a credible "scholar", whom if you will do your research, you will find many of your so called scholars rely on his work to check thier work. This is all I have for you. I am done with this discussion with you. If anyone else has any questions feel free to ask, otherwise I leave brother PB in Peace.
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Interesting
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PEACE, FATIMA,
Interesting
What do you find interesting, Fatima?
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PEACE, FATIMA,
Interesting
What do you find interesting, Fatima?
You too.
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Peace be upon you,
I have given you the image and backed it up with the very words written in stone, as well as producing a credible "scholar", whom if you will do your research, you will find many of your so called scholars rely on his work to check thier work. This is all I have for you. I am done with this discussion with you. If anyone else has any questions feel free to ask, otherwise I leave brother PB in Peace.
The short version then is...you could not back up your claim that you know for a fact that Set, is represented by the pig. I thought as much wink
Peace.
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Peace be upon you,
I have given you the image and backed it up with the very words written in stone, as well as producing a credible "scholar", whom if you will do your research, you will find many of your so called scholars rely on his work to check thier work. This is all I have for you. I am done with this discussion with you. If anyone else has any questions feel free to ask, otherwise I leave brother PB in Peace.
The short version then is...you could not back up your claim that you know for a fact that Set, is represented by the pig. I thought as much wink
Good point.Peace.
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You too.
You find me interesting or the topic? I'm sorry, I'm certain what you mean.