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End of traditional Ramadan.

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    unknownuser
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    Peace,
    Lot - it doesn't baffle me at all - the human in general likes to suffer thinking it will bring him the acceptance of god. Think of what shias and some catholics would do to their bodies roll
    LK

    You right there LK!

    Regards,

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      unknownuser
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      The thing I can't understand is that if the fast was initially 10 ten days then why would the traditionalist extend it to 30 days why burden themselves that much?...this bit baffles me...

      Regard,

      I don't know if equating it to "burden" is correct. Remember that this is something that traditionalists believe brings great rewards. Where there is reward there is a desire to do more. It's religious currency - more is better in the traditionalist view.

      In this context there is no burden, yes you are right...

      Regards,

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        jonny_k
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        Salam Truth and all,
        I cannot accept Ramdan as being "a solar moon part consisting of 10 days in the summer" as Ayman claims simply because this definiton is very far reaching and has NEVER popped up until recently. Moreover some important events in my life have occured in Ramdan, the traditional month, like i first came across the mathematical miralce of the Quran in this month 2001 while i was NINTEEN. Also another girl from sweden came to acept this mathemcatical miracle this year in Ramadan and so on. But whats most important is that RK, being the first real prominent Quran Alone Muslim and a messenger of GOD claimed to have got a personal revelation during that month from GOD. Could he have lied after all the evidence which he came along with? Is it possible that GOD wouldnt clear such an important "misconception" with him during his lifetime and not leave it upto Ayman, PBM or Aidid, who are not even messengers? It doesnt make sense to me. GOD Bless!

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          zenje
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          I cannot accept Ramdan as being "a solar moon part consisting of 10 days in the summer" as Ayman claims simply because this definiton is very far reaching and has NEVER popped up until recently.
          Sounds like something Ansar would say. rif

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            salikahDC
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            Man,

            I can't wait until traditional ramadan is over! Somehow, it has gotten around my office that I am a muslim and everyone keeps asking "I thought you were fasting?" "Are you off tomorrow?" " Are you celebrating eid?" And I have a lot of pressure from the Sunnis....

            gesh.....

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              zenje
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              Err.. I think it IS over.

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                salikahDC
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                Well, Zenje,

                The word on the street is that Eid Ul-Kitr is Friday, November 4th 2005. This is what I am referring to.

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                  Elena
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                  Peace Elke,

                  Lot - it doesn't baffle me at all - the human in general likes to suffer thinking it will bring him the acceptance of god. Think of what shias and some catholics would do to their bodies roll
                  LK

                  thanks Elke for that fair, objective way of saying that comment.
                  I value the non-generalization very much. I am referring to the word 'some'

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                    zenje
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                    Well, Zenje,

                    The word on the street is that Eid Ul-Kitr is Friday, November 4th 2005. This is what I am referring to.
                    I guess it's the usual confusion then. They were celebrating full swing at one of the local mosques today. With food stalls and all. My wife is pissed with me for not taking a day off and going to 'celebrate' ?

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                      salikahDC
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                      My HR person is determined to make me take the day off tomorrow...

                      I mean, I may take the day off, but I won't be at a mosque

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                        Wakas
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                        In the UK it was today, and tomorrow as well apparently.

                        Same old, same old.

                        Eid announcement
                        Because of variations in the start of Ramadan, Eid prayers are being held on both Thursday 3rd November and Friday 4th November.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          truth
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                          Man,

                          I can't wait until traditional ramadan is over! Somehow, it has gotten around my office that I am a muslim and everyone keeps asking "I thought you were fasting?" "Are you off tomorrow?" " Are you celebrating eid?" And I have a lot of pressure from the Sunnis....

                          gesh.....

                          I work only 3 days a week, but I know what you mean about people finding out you're muslim.

                          I fasted all minus 2 days because what I do requires that I be fully focussed (well... especially focussed) sometimes. During the whole time no one realised; and on the last day it was someone's birthday so cakes and coffees were ordered - hot chocolate for me because the secretaries know.

                          I could have taken it and dumped it but this is a ten dollar hot chocolate and I told them why I couldn't have it and that someone else was welcome to it. Everyone launched in with the questions and as it turned out no one ended up having the hot chocolate anyhow.

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                            zenje
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                            I could have taken it and dumped it but this is a ten dollar hot chocolate...

                            I'd like to taste a 10 dollar hot chocolate! drool

                            VINCENT id you just order a five-dollar shake?
                            MIA Sure did.
                            VINCENT A shake? Milk and ice cream?
                            MIA Uh-huh.
                            VINCENT It costs five dollars?
                            BUDDY Yep.
                            VINCENT You don't put bourbon in it or anything?
                            BUDDY Nope.
                            VINCENT Just checking.

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                              zenje
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                              In the UK it was today, and tomorrow as well apparently.

                              Same old, same old.

                              MCB"]Eid announcement
                              Because of variations in the start of Ramadan, Eid prayers are being held on both Thursday 3rd November and Friday 4th November.

                              So much for "the only one which is universal!" roll

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                                mquran
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                                Zein, are you some kind of movie fan? or is that a tarantino fan?

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                                  DHULQARNANE
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                                  The thing I can't understand is that if the fast was initially 10 ten days then why would the traditionalist extend it to 30 days why burden themselves that much?...this bit baffles me...

                                  Regard,

                                  There is no mystery here. The so-called muslims, are indoctrinated with the Christian superstition that, suffereing makes one more pious and r-e-a-l-l-y shows Allah how "sincere" one is.

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                                    mquran
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                                    Salaam,

                                    Can anyone please provide evidence that as-siyaam/the abstention during ramadhan is for 10 days? This goes for whenever you think ramadhan is.

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                                      mquran
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                                      There is no mystery here. The so-called muslims, are indoctrinated with the Christian superstition that, suffereing makes one more pious and r-e-a-l-l-y shows Allah how "sincere" one is.

                                      And this guy is supposed to be 'quran only' and yells out to the fact ?!! God help those who believe him!

                                      Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested? We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false (29/2-3)

                                      Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (In His Cause) and remained steadfast? (3/142)

                                      Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden (of bliss) without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? they encountered SUFFERING AND ADVERSITY (al-ba'aas wa al'dhar), and were so shaken in spirit that even THE MESSENGERand those of faith who were with him cried "When (will come) the help of Allah?" Ah! Verily, the help of Allah is (always) near! (2/214)

                                      Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere (2/155)

                                      So CHRISTIAN notion? Oh boy, this guy needs to learn a thing or two about his own ideology.

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                                        SwedenMajidah
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                                        Salaam,

                                        I was having a big party in my house yesterday to celebrate Eid ul Fitri.

                                        Today I'm exhausted lol

                                        Peace Sis Maria

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Salaam,

                                          I was having a big party in my house yesterday to celebrate Eid ul Fitri.

                                          Peace Sis Maria

                                          How come we were not invited to that party? wink
                                          I would tried your Pizza!!!

                                          Regards,

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