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End of traditional Ramadan.

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    salikahDC
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    My HR person is determined to make me take the day off tomorrow...

    I mean, I may take the day off, but I won't be at a mosque

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      Wakas
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      In the UK it was today, and tomorrow as well apparently.

      Same old, same old.

      Eid announcement
      Because of variations in the start of Ramadan, Eid prayers are being held on both Thursday 3rd November and Friday 4th November.

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        truth
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        Man,

        I can't wait until traditional ramadan is over! Somehow, it has gotten around my office that I am a muslim and everyone keeps asking "I thought you were fasting?" "Are you off tomorrow?" " Are you celebrating eid?" And I have a lot of pressure from the Sunnis....

        gesh.....

        I work only 3 days a week, but I know what you mean about people finding out you're muslim.

        I fasted all minus 2 days because what I do requires that I be fully focussed (well... especially focussed) sometimes. During the whole time no one realised; and on the last day it was someone's birthday so cakes and coffees were ordered - hot chocolate for me because the secretaries know.

        I could have taken it and dumped it but this is a ten dollar hot chocolate and I told them why I couldn't have it and that someone else was welcome to it. Everyone launched in with the questions and as it turned out no one ended up having the hot chocolate anyhow.

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          zenje
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          I could have taken it and dumped it but this is a ten dollar hot chocolate...

          I'd like to taste a 10 dollar hot chocolate! drool

          VINCENT id you just order a five-dollar shake?
          MIA Sure did.
          VINCENT A shake? Milk and ice cream?
          MIA Uh-huh.
          VINCENT It costs five dollars?
          BUDDY Yep.
          VINCENT You don't put bourbon in it or anything?
          BUDDY Nope.
          VINCENT Just checking.

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            zenje
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            In the UK it was today, and tomorrow as well apparently.

            Same old, same old.

            MCB"]Eid announcement
            Because of variations in the start of Ramadan, Eid prayers are being held on both Thursday 3rd November and Friday 4th November.

            So much for "the only one which is universal!" roll

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              mquran
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              Zein, are you some kind of movie fan? or is that a tarantino fan?

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                DHULQARNANE
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                The thing I can't understand is that if the fast was initially 10 ten days then why would the traditionalist extend it to 30 days why burden themselves that much?...this bit baffles me...

                Regard,

                There is no mystery here. The so-called muslims, are indoctrinated with the Christian superstition that, suffereing makes one more pious and r-e-a-l-l-y shows Allah how "sincere" one is.

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                  mquran
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                  Salaam,

                  Can anyone please provide evidence that as-siyaam/the abstention during ramadhan is for 10 days? This goes for whenever you think ramadhan is.

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                    mquran
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                    There is no mystery here. The so-called muslims, are indoctrinated with the Christian superstition that, suffereing makes one more pious and r-e-a-l-l-y shows Allah how "sincere" one is.

                    And this guy is supposed to be 'quran only' and yells out to the fact ?!! God help those who believe him!

                    Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested? We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false (29/2-3)

                    Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (In His Cause) and remained steadfast? (3/142)

                    Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden (of bliss) without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? they encountered SUFFERING AND ADVERSITY (al-ba'aas wa al'dhar), and were so shaken in spirit that even THE MESSENGERand those of faith who were with him cried "When (will come) the help of Allah?" Ah! Verily, the help of Allah is (always) near! (2/214)

                    Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere (2/155)

                    So CHRISTIAN notion? Oh boy, this guy needs to learn a thing or two about his own ideology.

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                      SwedenMajidah
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                      Salaam,

                      I was having a big party in my house yesterday to celebrate Eid ul Fitri.

                      Today I'm exhausted lol

                      Peace Sis Maria

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                        unknownuser
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                        Salaam,

                        I was having a big party in my house yesterday to celebrate Eid ul Fitri.

                        Peace Sis Maria

                        How come we were not invited to that party? wink
                        I would tried your Pizza!!!

                        Regards,

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                          SwedenMajidah
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                          Salaam Lote,

                          He he well actually you guys were all there as spirits lol

                          I didn't make pizza. But we ate alot of malay foods like different kinds of curries and desserts as well.

                          And we all wore beautiful clothes D

                          Peace Sis Maria

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                            unknownuser
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                            Salaam Lote,
                            He he well actually you guys were all there as spirits lol

                            Well even spirits needs to be invited wink

                            But we ate alot of malay foods like different kinds of curries and desserts as well.

                            Please don't make us hungry today -)

                            Regards,

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                              SwedenMajidah
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                              lol lol P lol lol

                              Maria

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                                zenje
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                                Zein, are you some kind of movie fan? or is that a tarantino fan?
                                Yes (to both questions), you can find proof in the movie thread, or my avatar, or... wink

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                                  Jaxal
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                                  SaLaM SM

                                  He he well actually you guys were all there as spirits

                                  ahhh. that explains my black out last night. Or was it the weed? hmm

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                                    SwedenMajidah
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                                    Salaam Jaxal,

                                    WEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                    Peace Sis Maria

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                                      Jaxal
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                                      SaLaM SM

                                      rotfl rotfl So i wasnt invited huh? looooollll

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                                        truth
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                                        Salaam,

                                        Can anyone please provide evidence that as-siyaam/the abstention during ramadhan is for 10 days? This goes for whenever you think ramadhan is.

                                        Peace mquran,

                                        While there are articles on the matter of what 'few days' means etc that I regard as the prima facie evidence; there are practical examples of fasting with various lengths.

                                        As an atonement there is at least two 60 day length fasts mentioned in 492, 584. And it can be 3 days for the breaking of an oath 589.

                                        The example that is closest to the ramadan verses is in 2196 mentions a total period of 10 days of fasting.

                                        All these are for atonement or expiation - so applicability is a question.

                                        Is there an argument for 10 days that you find problematic? It would be good to hear these and perhaps discuss them.

                                        Regards.

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                                          YankeeDoodle
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                                          Hello Oben,
                                          Long time no See and I hope youre as fine as I am.I wish you could further elaborate the words underlined.

                                          ...which is agreed upon by all the researchers. The timing of this has been worked out by brother Ayman through his own work to be the first full moon following the summer solstice.

                                          My next question is and correct me if I am wrong I understand that Ramadhan being translated as the hottest month of the year from the forum here I would tend to disagree that it should be the begnning of the first full moon when the summer soltice starts.If we look at the situation in the northern hemisphere where it all began,due to convection and reradiation of the earth surface the hottest month is definitely not the beginning of summer solstice as pointed out to you in your link.The earth surface is just warming up and this takes approximately 2 months to get up to the mean temperatue of about 45C and there after it starts to cool due to the movement of the sun south of the equator. As such that leaves doubt to your argument.

                                          Relating this phenomenon to that of our domestic sauna where normal the temperature is set at about 45C .The occupants of this health facility are recommended not to stay longer than 20 minutes due to the adverse effect of the heat beyond that stipulated duration of time.As most of the readers of this forum knowthat the Quran was sent down in the month of Ramadan and due to the heat of the region where Mohammed was I would like to think that he did his daily routine of travelling and doing his business but from the facts of history that I knew of he hybernated or meditatedor whatever the case maybe in some cooler environment like caves away from the searing heat which was where he got his revelations.

                                          In such a circumstance,It would really be ideal for one to fast because there is nothing much to do during this hot season.

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