The Omnipotent, Omnipresent, All knowing but Doing Nothing?
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Peace,
this question is very PROFOUND and has been debated for centruries
It's a profound question? Since when? Just because people debate over it doesn't mean it's 'profound'.
hi neo 'and', not 'because'
both are conjunctions yes, uninflected function words that serve to conjoin words or phrases or clauses or sentences
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwnwhat's your mother tongue, neo? I also have problems with the use of 'and' when it means "or" ('o' in Spanish)
Sorry for drfiting, agentxxx.
I don't think you understood what I meant.
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And also at English Expressions that denote indefinite time preriod? wink
Regards,
I'm sorry - did I hurt your ego or something during the course of my post history? I really don't know what you're talking about...
No need to be sorry...I thought my use of the expression "Since Year Dot" may have appeared as bad joke to you...
...And I have not much of an ego to hurt... wink
Regards
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Religion is created to take advantage of our emotional imbalance. It manipulates to create false hope and take advantage of it. Thats why we see religious ppl doing nothing but cursing or whining abt problems. Religion doesn?t go thru logic and the only way it survives is by creating illusion of false hope.
There will be always natural destruction. We call it destruction because it harms us but nature will flow in its own way. Does it care about its inhabitants? Does it understand human agony? I dont think so. Same with God. It will flow its own way but the only help we are getting from it is the guidance. Now what is this guidance ? Obviously not those humming suras or chanting or crying out "God save me". Noo! it doesn?t work like that. The only help nature/God can give us is the wisdom. Manual of this natural system. Now its our job how to utilize these instructions.
I am so tired of these religious ppl cursing and chanting and always trying to blame on others.....these ppl are parasites...they create vacuum in the system.
I think it doesn?t matter even if you pray thousand times asking God to help unless you go and help yourself. So the bottom line should be to help ourselves and be appreciative to the knowledge or the source. What is the source of knowledge? May be it is what God say to believe in the unseen?the source of knowledge.
Peace
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Peace be upon you SA,
Good post
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Peace be upon you SA,
Good post
thanks bro...
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I have, another short story that I think snuggles up well with this topic, of His abscence.
A man stood before Shibl? and said to him Which act of patience is hardest for one who is patient?
Shibl? said Patience in God.
No, the man said.
Shibl? said Patience for God.
The man said No.
Shibl? said The patience with God.
No, he said.
Shibl? grew angry and said Damn you, what then?
The man said Patience without God Most High.
Shibl? let out a scream that nearly tore apart his spirit. -
My friend WE ALL are trying our best to help the victims of this tragedy, believe me there is no one I know who isn?t doing his best but we are not omnipotent and we have our limitations.
That is good enough. We can only do, what we can only do.I don?t know what I will say when this wave of emotion passes away?
Exactly, so we'll be patient. And when the time comes, you will find out.May I ask you, do you think death is a 'bad' thing? For a moment, don't think of anything else, like the time of death or the action that results in death... just death itself.
Peace
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Salam,
shamsul-arefin you have said it all my friend wink
peace vizard and thanks for your short story,poor shibli lol
zenje you wrote
May I ask you, do you think death is a 'bad' thing? For a moment, don't think of anything else, like the time of death or the action that results in death... just death itself.
It depends brother? For the person who dies maybe it isn?t bad but for his/her loved ones, it is terrible.
What do you think about it?
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Peace be upon you,
For the person who dies maybe it isn?t bad but for his/her loved ones, it is terrible.
What do you think about it?We are here in this illusion to be tested. Always remember that. Can we remain at Peace in the face of difficulty? Everyone we love is going to die. We have to develop the ability to enjoy a person/thing without the attachment. Because we cannot avoid people leaving us, dying, etc. We have to be able to remain at peace. We have many examples of people who lose many family members at one time but they do not go out and kill themselves, then we have examples of people who do, so its not in the event, its inthe REACTION. The proper reaction to all events is PEACE. Emotions like sadness, anger, etc will lead us down the wrong path.
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Emotions like sadness, anger, etc will lead us down the wrong path.
But sadness and anger they have their uses too?
Regards,
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Yes death is a natural thing...but that doesnt mean we see someone dying in pain and say..Oh!! its a natural thing!! why should we feel so bad abt it.!!
Why are we developing anyway..why are we trying to save life anyway...why the need of hospital?? Just let everyone die..!! Its so natural right??!!
maaan..sometime we act really stupid..| May be we are becoming extreame in a different way....who knows..
peace
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Peace be upon you,
But sadness and anger they have their uses too?
Yes, but they are servants not masters. They are not "states" that we should remain in for extended periods of time. All emotions, no matter what the name we give them, are TENSION. It takes the LIFE GIVING blood away from the vital organs and moves it to the organs for "fight or flight", thereby starving our vital organs, which is the science behind the statement "stress leads to ilness". That illness is starvation.
So if someone dies, does it follow we should respond with anger or sadness? What would happen if we instead just remained at peace? We ask that the deceased "rest in peace", but meanwhile we are back here destroying our health with states of TENSION.
Iknow its easier said than done, and might sound strange in this unguided world, but this is what we should be cultivating. The God says that those who trust should not despair, for anything. D
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salaam
I am overwhelmed with emotions at the moment, the agony of thousands of people and SPECIALLY THE KIDS, HAS shattered me apart , please forgive me if I have crossed the limits in the portrayal of my emotions.
I have too gone throughh the same emotions as your self-especially as being from the affected area.
You have not crossed the limits. If you cannot ask these questions then what can you ask.
I am afraid I can neither give you or neither have I come across an answer that makes sense to me.
All, as a family, we have done is tried to turn our emotions into action by trying to do something positive-raise money, collect equipment etc.
I hope every one will make effort on these forums and do whatever they can, as there is lot to do-immense amount of pain and suffering being endured by our brothers, sisters and children.
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FM should have a pool fund system so that It can lend a helping hand right away.....
shanti
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Peace be upon you still learning,
turn our emotions into action by trying to do something positive-raise money, collect equipment etc.
Exactly! This helps me to cultivate the seed I am trying to plant. If one lets emotions lead the way, the we are in the house depressed, crying, angry, doubtful, destroying our health by starving the vital organs. But if we remain at peace, the best we can, then SOLUTIONS COME TO US! That is the Key to intuition. That is why Peace is most important, it removes the SEAL....oops! Did I say that shock
Emotion is ENERGY in MOTION, it is what allows us to CARRY OUTwhat we will, instead of this energy defeating us as a master, we make it SERVE us as still learning has demonstrated by the statement "turn our emotions into action by trying to do something positive-raise money, collect equipment etc.".
Solomon teaches us to make the shataan(emotions) work for us.
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salam idolfree1,
brother some things are easier said then done,12- Yusuf
84And he turned away from them and said "How great is my grief for Joseph!" And his eyes became white with sorrow and he fell into silent melancholy.
85They said "By Allah! (never) wilt thou cease to remember Joseph until thou reach the last extremity of illness or until thou die!
86He said "I only complain of my distraction and anguish to Allah and I know from Allah that which ye know not...peace stillearning, my prayers are with you brother, which area are you from? I heard on tv that the rain and snow is causing more problems as it is getting more and more difficult to send aid.
can anyone guide me how to post images here please?
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Peace be upon you Agentxxx,
salam idolfree1,
some things are easier said then done,Everything is "hard" until you train yourself. Lifting 350 pounds on benchpress is "hard" until you train yourself, then it is "easy". Not eating pork is "hard" until you train yourself, etc.
12- Yusuf
84And he turned away from them and said "How great is my grief for Joseph!" And his eyes became white with sorrow and he fell into silent melancholy.
85They said "By Allah! (never) wilt thou cease to remember Joseph until thou reach the last extremity of illness or until thou die!
86He said "I only complain of my distraction and anguish to Allah and I know from Allah that which ye know not...There is a deeper side to this story which am not prepared to expound upon, but how do you reconcile the contradiction that creates with the verse that says believers never despair?
Stilllearning, may the God increase the inner peace of you and your family so that you remain guided in this test.
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peace if1,
Everything is "hard" until you train yourself. Lifting 350 pounds on benchpress is "hard" until you train yourself, then it is "easy". Not eating pork is "hard" until you train yourself, etc.
it depends form person to person my friend, not eating pork was never hard for me even when i was studying in england and was living in usa for a while. but not everyone can lift 350 pounds no matter how hard they train ) .
There is a deeper side to this story which am not prepared to expound upon, but how do you reconcile the contradiction that creates with the verse that says believers never despair?
these contradicting verses are Problematic for me to understand and they are so many of them, this is why people keep on discussing but never arrive at a single Conclusion, we can all find verses to support our view points. my fair guess is different commandmends according to different situations.
God bless you