Hadith did it
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I was born in a normal Muslim family, but 3 years back I started reading Quran with it's details and meaning, going into the dept, trying to see what it really means.
As I use to consider Hadith as part of Islam I started reading the traslation of Bukhari and other books of Hadith, soon I found it to be totally wierd and illogical.
But things really changed when I started reading Bible and found so much of similarity between hadith and Bible, I got really confused because Quran is not much like bible but Hadith were totally illogical and sensless.
Like God having hands and comming of Jesus, etc.
Thanks to Allah today I don't make my decisions based on blind faith and superstitions but on truth and reason.
Yaser Farid
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mm,well for hadiths,we should not reject them straightaway,but rahter put them in the light of quran,after all this is human effort,and to human is error.and the quran calls itself noor (LIGHT).we dont need the torch to show the sun.remember allah says, enemityof a nation should,nt make u unjust.and also that do not abuse their gods,lest they abuse your true god.
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Ansar wrote
When you read in the quran that prophet Nuh peace be upon him stayed on earth for more then 500 years, did you find that strange too?
Interesting...
Can you please quote the verse that says Noah lived more than 500 years? ( Year meaning 365 days?? )
Please quote it...if you're still here. wait
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I'm everyday more convinced that anyone in his/her own sane mind can't regard the hadiths as uncorrupted. There are so many things in the hadiths that are so nonsense, that it becomes hard to believe that those are God and Prophet's inspired commandments for every little thingy of your life (the right way cut your nails?! please roll ).
The existence of the hadiths mean that some muslims started to consider that the Qur'an itself was not enough for them to live their faith! shock I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't some hadiths who are interesting or that can have some kind of guidance, but to regard it as an authority, second only to the Qur'an is very questionable. Qur'an is the word of God. The hadith is a (too) large bunch of stories of somewhat suspicious origins and orientation.
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Ansar wrote
When you read in the quran that prophet Nuh peace be upon him stayed on earth for more then 500 years, did you find that strange too?
Interesting...
Can you please quote the verse that says Noah lived more than 500 years? ( Year meaning 365 days?? )
Please quote it...if you're still here. wait
2914 says that Noah lived 950 years "thousand years minus fifty", do you suggest otherwise?
peace
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Hmm was just reading.. Ahmad Deedat rejects hadith? never heard that before.. that's interesting because alot of people look up to him.
Deedat was a big supporter of RK, even wrote a book on code 19.
Infact that book reached more people than RK's own books.
But when the fatwas got bit heavy everything he said became a compromise.
peace.
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Hello
it seems, from this book that Deedat was a hadith follower
http//jamaat.net/muslimprayer/prayer.html
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it doesnt matter if the king of the entire arabia followed the ahadiths,
because i for one will only follow the guidance of allah
and only the quran."Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?" 7185
when someones quoting me the other human made adhaiths, i just show them this verse and it silences them.
Always remember that satan will try to not let you understand the quran and persuade you that its not complete and that you need more sources to understand it.
this is where man has failed, the existance of the other human made ahadiths, is the evidence of satans prestigity.
Satan is always waiting and watching for the moment to steer you away from the path to allah
be on your guard...
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Where did you get that translation from? ?
The translation from Muhsin Khan states "Do they not look in the dominion of the heavens and the earth and all things that Allah has created; and that it may be that the end of their lives is near. In what MESSAGE after this will they then believe?"
(Al-Araf-185)or better yet translation from a number of scholars.
YUSUFALI Do they see nothing in the government of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah hath created? (Do they not see) that it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what message after this will they then believe?PICKTHAL Have they not considered the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and what things Allah hath created, and that it may be that their own term draweth nigh? In what fact after this will they believe?
SHAKIR Do they not consider the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and whatever things Allah has created, and that may be their doom shall have drawn nigh; what announcement would they then believe in after this?
It seems like you have complelety twisted the words, and read it completely out of context.
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Peace
Kashif is right regarding the word hadith
peace
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It seems like you have complelety twisted the words, and read it completely out of context.
Nothing's twisted, the word remains in it's original formHere's some more examples...
These are the ayat of Allah which We recite to you with truth; then in what hadith would they believe after Allah and His ayat? (456)
Woe on that day to the disbelievers! So in what hadith after this will they believe? (7749-50)
Did they not look at the dominion of heavens and earth, and all that God has created? Perhaps their time is drawing near; so in which hadith after this one will they believe? (7185)
And from the people, there are those who accept baseless hadith to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and they take it as entertainment. These will have a humiliating retribution (316)
God has sent down the best hadith, a scripture that is similar in two ways. The skins of those who reverence their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is God's guidance; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whomever God misguides, then none can guide him. (3923)
Please abstain from accusations, atleast before you verify the claim, here's a verse that may be of help also
O you who believe, if a wicked person comes to you with any news, then you shall investigate it. Lest you harm a people out of ignorance, then you will become regretful over what you have done.(496)
Peace be with you
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but are you taking hadith in literal terms? or a message/guidance?
I implied you are saying hadith from what the topic is about.
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but are you taking hadith in literal terms? or a message/guidance?
I implied you are saying hadith from what the topic is about.
i believe it is literal term but the context means a message from someone, a hadith from someone to make people believe, therefore it can be a message
peace
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my point exactly.
JazakAllahkhairun bro.