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    unknownuser
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    Hi Sweden Majidah,

    Thanks for helping me out

    Anyday! )

    Very old fashioned indeed and it exists on more places than those you mentioned.

    Really? which other countries have this custom? didnt realise it was prevalent elsewhere too.

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      SwedenMajidah
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      Salaam sis PM,

      Well in fact you can find it in all countries today even in Sweden and UK because ppl who comes from these regions often take their customs with them.

      But Malaysia,Thailand and in the Arab world is it still very common.

      Peace Sis Majidah

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        unknownuser
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        HI Sweden Majidah,
        O Yeah! Indians(pak and bangladesh included) anywhere in the world will remain Indians, coz they want to keep up their traditions and culture- be it sensible or senseless. )

        But I guess the system is also practised in the 'arab world'.

        Didnt realise 'Malaysia and Thailand' though.

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          Jaxal
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          SaLaM PM

          Yes you understand correct lolll. IT was a funny episode. I like simpsons but the best are SouthPark loooooooooooolllllllllllllllll you should seriously watch it. It comes on chanel 127 if you have sky looooooooooooollll

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            stillearning
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            salaam

            To say in short, its a huge gamble, but the children ususally 'give in' even when they dont see sense in it, either due to compulsion(emotional blackmail such as 'we took so much care of u and this is how u repay us by disobeying us' etc ...) or real compulsion(child locked up if the child revoltsand there are death threats, suicide threats, Heart-attacks, collapses etc) or the child gives in coz he/she realises the parents will get hurt if he/she disobeys and hence gives in, for the sake of the love and respect he/she feels for them.

            Is that not a forced marriage!

            My understanding was that arranged marriage was the one which was arranged for the convienece of the couple i.e they were brought togather for the purpose of marriage and it was felt (by who ever was arranging) that they were likely to be compatible as a couple. Is compatibilty! not the reason why most marriages seemingly take place.

            regards

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              Jaxal
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              SaLaM stillearning

              Forced marriage / arrange marriage = potatoe / potaatoe looooolll

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                unknownuser
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                Hi Stillearning,

                Well, how will compatibility be known if the partners do not get to know each other? They can not get to know each other coz they are not allowed to meet in person( except one or two ocassions when they meet in the midst of the families(around 10-15 people), so not much chance of a conversation other than 'hi there', and usually the 2nd meeting is the 'engagement ceremony' ) and casual phone conversations are not allowed either(except on rare occassions, for eg, birthday etc).

                The criteria(in order of importance) generally used by the well-wishing parents are these, in addition to 'same nationality, same religion, same caste' (which are absolutely must haves).

                To select a bride
                1.Beautiful, 2.good family background, 3.good health, 4.rich family(rich enough to pay the dowry they want. the richer the better!), 5.education(depends on whether they want the bride to be a house wife or an earner).

                To Select a Groom

                1. Good healthy chap. 2. Good, respectable family 3. Good Job with Good income 4.Educated 5. Clean records(criminal and social) 6.Non smoker, Non-alcoholic 7. affordable dowry

                Can u sense compatibility in the deal?

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                  stillearning
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                  salaam jaxal

                  Forced marriage / arrange marriage = potatoe / potaatoe looooolll

                  no idea please explain.
                  regards

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                    Jaxal
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                    SaLaM stillearning

                    Loooll its a joke. I guess it sounds better when said instead of written. But i tried.

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                      Well, it can be called a forced marriage when there are threats(death threats, suicide threats, heart-attacks, collapses etc) involved.
                      In the case when the child approves for the matrimony though he/she is not in favour of such an arranged marriage, as the child doesnt want to hurt the parents , it becomes ' sacrifice'!

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM PM

                        It dont have to be thread. The emotional drama can also do the trick. My mom wanted me to get married to this girl she choose for me. It was an arranged marriage. I was against that from the start. At first, the emotional black mail really got to me. And it was getting to me so bad that i NEARLY gave in. But i didnt. Not everyone does that. Sometimes, the emotional offensive works just as well has threats and what not.

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                          unknownuser
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                          Hi Jaxal,
                          Yeah, I know what u mean.
                          Here are some Emotional blackmails
                          'Why are we alive to see this day, to see our children disobeying us?,
                          Is this how u repay us after all that we have done for u?
                          do u only care about urself? how can u be so selfish?
                          Is this how we get repaid for all those sacrifices we have made for u?

                          And the more u revolt, there comes the 'heart attacks', collapses etc which will make u much more guilty.

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                            unknownuser
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                            Jaxal,
                            So, u escaped?
                            Good for u!

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                              Jaxal
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                              SaLaM PM

                              Here are some Emotional blackmails
                              'Why are we alive to see this day, to see our children disobeying us?,
                              Is this how u repay us after all that we have done for u?
                              do u only care about urself? how can u be so selfish?
                              Is this how we get repaid for all those sacrifices we have made for u?

                              BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl BAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

                              There is sooo much more i can addd hahahahahhhhhahhaha

                              And yes i did got out of it. I have not made many good decisions or choices in my life. So i guess this was important to me. No way im ruining the life of some innocent girl.

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                                stillearning
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                                salaam

                                So, u escaped?
                                Good for u!

                                Good or bad we will never know. Only speculate>
                                regards

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                                  Jaxal
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                                  SaLaM stillearning

                                  Well.. knowing myself, i can definately say that its good for the girl that she didnt marry me.

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                                    stillearning
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                                    salaam jaxal

                                    Well.. knowing myself, i can definately say that its good for the girl that she didnt marry me.

                                    I dont suppose we can get her to varify you statement. wink

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      Well, the chances that one ends up with a partner they fall in love, is less than 5% in an arranged marriage.
                                      The odds are only as good as the first person u meet on the street today.
                                      so, I guess, its always better to get out of it if one can, but the sad reality is not all can. Its a strange complex muddle.

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                                        Jaxal
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                                        SaLaM stillearning

                                        salaam jaxal

                                        Well.. knowing myself, i can definately say that its good for the girl that she didnt marry me.

                                        I dont suppose we can get her to varify you statement. wink

                                        Loooooll why would you wish that on some poor girl loooooll

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                                          stillearning
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                                          salamm

                                          Loooooll

                                          Is this a southern expression. Not in any northern dictionary!
                                          regards

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