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To the Mods: Why is MQuran banned from the forum ?

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    Jaxal
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    This is how these Shaitans instigate. Moderators are blind and baised. Start calling this forum Democracy Forum. These ignorant munafiqeen are infact mock the message of Qur'an. There is no constructive discussion now possible on Free Minds because of these stupid idiots. They poke their noses in everywhere without any knowledge.

    You can ban me now. This is not the first time I am calling these idiots mujafiqeen.

    You accept the message and this is what the message has thought you? Is this how the message tells you to hold debates or discussion? mquran had a problem with those who did not agree with him. As far as i know, he is the only one on this forum to call others Kafir who did not agree with him. If others are idiot and not accepting the message, what does it make you who acts like an idiot after accepting the message?

    Even now, you are provoking an action to be taken against you after being delibretly childish. I dont know which message you accept, but this is not what the Quran teaches.

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      unknownuser
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      If others are idiot and not accepting the message, what does it make you who acts like an idiot after accepting the message

      It is ''Not necessarily agreeing with all of their interpretation of the message'.

      No body has a right to judge anyone's views and beliefs. We are here to discuss peacefully. And in a discussion, there are bound to be difference in opinions. And if one cant maintain respect for fellow beings and their difference in opinions, What is the point of discussing? Is this the message of Quran ?

      Peace!

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        Jaxal
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        SaLaM PM

        Exactly. No one should judge other becoz they dont agree with that person. I have been on this forum long enough to know the level of tolerance members have is amazing. Even after heated debates and arguments, each party says peace and thats that. It does not matter how right i think i am or how wrong i think the other person is. No one should be called kafir or munafiqeen or shaitan JUST becoz there is a disagreement. That is beyond stupidity. I beleive we evolved. idmkhizar thinks otherwise. But at the end of the day, we say peace and leave it at that.

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          stillearning
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          salaam all

          It does not matter how right i think i am or how wrong i think the other person is. No one should be called kafir or munafiqeen or shaitan JUST becoz there is a disagreement. That is beyond stupidity. I beleive we evolved. idmkhizar thinks otherwise. But at the end of the day, we say peace and leave it at that.

          Bless you. If we cannot agree on this then we have to seriously problem.

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            Jaxal
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            SaLaM stillearning

            Brother you are too kind. To be honest, i used to do the same thing as mquran when i was a sunni. If others did not agree with me, then they are kafir and munafeqeen. Sad thing is, i was proud of this behaviour and i never really saw how wrong i was. Now that God has guided me to the right path, i can see clearly why that kind of behaviour is wrong. No doubt i have had a disagreement with every one i have ever held a discussion with. Even you stillearning. But becoz we are on the right path. Becoz God has guided us here. Becoz we can see through the wrong actions we commited before being guided, we have no reason to resort to calling each other kafirs and shaytan simple becoz we disagree. Its mind boggling. shock

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              stillearning
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              salaam jaxal

              No doubt i have had a disagreement with every one i have ever held a discussion with. Even you stillearning. But becoz we are on the right path.

              Brother you are so right. There is no one that i have not had disagreements with even my parents, wife(especially), children etc but that does not mean i dont respect them or love them any less. If any thing it helps me to become a better muslim especially if I am shown the error of my ways(believe me there have been plenty of those and will probably be many more to come).
              Here is to many agreements and disagreements to come and let it not change our goodwill towards each other.

              Salaam and Allah Bless you

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                Jaxal
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                SaLaM stillearning

                Holy ...... you are married? I swear i thought you were 16 ops

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                  stillearning
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                  salaam jaxal

                  SaLaM stillearning

                  Holy ...... you are married? I swear i thought you were 16

                  You are confusing my mental age with my chronological. But then at some point dementia begins to set in.

                  regards

                  ps. i was your age once and one day you too will be old. Time waits for no one

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                    stillearning
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                    salaam jaxal

                    O yes please dont ask my age. I cant count that far (bit embarrassing really)
                    regards

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                      Wakas
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                      Having been a member of this forum for a reasonably long time, I can safely say that I have seen the forum go through phases. It has its ups and its downs, in terms of quality.

                      This is natural.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Jaxal
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                        SaLaM Mehdi

                        Loooll that is an unfair comparison. dont compare free minds to a drunk Just becoz of one member wink

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                          Tahira
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                          Can't we let mquran apologise and promise he won't do it again?
                          Can't we forgive him just this once?
                          It hurts inside knowing that my brother is banned even though it is temporary. i understand that his approach to some members was a bit abrupt but can't he apologise to those members and come back.

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                            DHUL_QARNAIN
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                            LAYTH,

                            He has been temporarily banned for breach of the forum rule

                            Hmmm...how long was my ban to be and, more importantly, what was my infraction?

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                              DHUL_QARNAIN
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                              PEACE, MEHDI,

                              but may i ask.. how could you be banned if you are posting? man this site can be confusing..

                              I simply posted under another spelling of my former user name---Dhulqarnain/Dhulqarnane. I was banned not for breaking the forum rules, but out of resentment and political difference.

                              and maybe i really aught to post this on your other thread you started.. for the LOVE OF GOD... PEOPLE PLEASE USE REAL NAMES! .. cause when people use names like 'truth' it really sucks to try and read drama.. you know? .. cause it's like.. truth says this.. and then like.. that truth sure sucks! .. and i'm like sitting here.. going.. what??? truth sucks? why does the truth suck? .. and then.. he's like.. no not truth.. but you know... TRUTH.. and then.. i'm all like.. what? who's truth? .. and then.. he's like... .. then.. .. she.. he.. said.. who?

                              I agree, it is perversion on the part of the member, who goes by the name of "truth", to use it as nickname....there is no truth in him.

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                                Layth
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                                Peace,

                                Why the other member who constanly call MQuran barking dog did not get the same punishment?

                                Please provide the links and sections that were in breach and action will be taken if it is verified...Neither I nor the other mods sift through the threads of this forum looking for a reason to ban someone, but if a complaint is registered, then it will be investigated and action taken if warranted.

                                I would post the etiquete rules from the Scripture to remind people how God expects us to behave, but since it fell on deaf ears the first couple of times, I see nothing that has changed.

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                                  TheNabi
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                                  Peace,

                                  truth says this.. and then like.. that truth sure sucks! .. and i'm like sitting here.. going.. what??? truth sucks? why does the truth suck?

                                  lol I thought that was quite humorous, even though my stating so sounds dry.

                                  Joe

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                                    Jaxal
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                                    SaLaM

                                    Why the other member who constanly call MQuran barking dog did not get the same punishment?

                                    Your heart cries becoz mquran was called a barking dog? And where your broken heart when other members were being called kafir, shaytan and other rubbish which YOU also have taken part in.

                                    First of all, the whole barking dog thing was an example, give by truth i think, on another thread telling someone that barking dogs only annoy you as long as let them. I was simply giving the same example to other members.

                                    Second of all, you say you accept the message and yet you have no problem someone calling your sister and brother in islam kafir and shaytan along with other degratory words. You have also said the same things mquran has. Where was your brokin heart when mquran was calling your sister and brother in islam kafir and shaytan. Even sunnis dont allow that. Even sunnis stand up and get in ur face if you call a sister in islam a degratory name. But i didnt see any tears from you then. I also didnt see any tears from you when YOU were calling the same members the same degratory names that mquran used. And your heart cries becoz mquran is being called a dog? serious

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                                      savage_carrot
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                                      Peace all,

                                      I think everyone should start their own forum if they are not happy with the rules. The rules here are fair and mostly lax, it's only when they cross a certain limit consistently that they are enforced. I find Layth and the mods to be fair...sometimes, one's subjective view of things is different from the objective wink

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        Hi all,

                                        I think everyone should start their own forum if they are not happy with the rules. The rules here are fair and mostly lax,

                                        I agree.

                                        Peace!

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Hi M-Mehdi,

                                          i agree that the rules of this forum are lax.. it's nice.. keeps the flow going...
                                          please know.. i think it's a great idea for folks to learn how to start their own forums and aught to start their own forums in hopes to get whatever it is out of them..
                                          but in light of Unity.. i disagree with this notion.. in order for Unity to come about we must have tollorance and love... rules help a little.. but mostly tollorance.. even more Love...

                                          But Mehdi, Its important that every one behaves in a civilized, respectful manner towards each other in order to have a constructive discussion and exchange of ideas. There is no point in going on and on with abuses and insults, when opinions differ. Unless such stuff stops, there cant be any healthy discussion.
                                          Ofcourse we need tolerance and love for each other and for our differences, but we also need respect towards each other and humility. Whats mutual love without mutual respect?
                                          We need rules and regulations to exsist in peace and participate, in any part of the society/community as well, dont we?

                                          the notions of "love or leave it"... are stupid.. and do not work! .. when are we as human beings going to learn there is NO WHERE TO RUN!
                                          censorship and banning do not work

                                          Mehdi, No one is saying, u got to accept a certain belief to stay in the forum. The rules only say that we ought to act in a civilized, respectful manner and thats important to participate in a discussion constructively.

                                          as an example.. have any of you ever had a person who you disliked for one reason or another.. and then had this person leave you in life for some reason or another.. whether you left town or they left your school, or you quit your job or they got fired.. etc. etc..
                                          until you make peace with yourself and this person... this person will keep popping up in your life... with one face or another? perhaps it's not the person who you dislike but that portion of the person inside of you.. which brings up such conflicting sentiments... ?
                                          does this make any sense? or should i go back to sleeping on the stairs?
                                          at one point we are going to have to deal... you know?

                                          Again Mehdi, There is no personal grudge on anyone. No body is being punished or warned for personal enemity or personal grudges. Only when their actions are at fault, they get warned or punished for their 'actions'.
                                          So, its not about disliking a person at all.

                                          this is why banning doesn't work.. if there is a pain in your own body do you ban it.. do you hide it.. or do you find the means to cure it?

                                          I didnt get the similarity that u r pointing at.
                                          But while at it, even when u have pain, u do some thing about it and treat it, dont u?

                                          Peace!

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