Myth of Islamic Scholars

unknownuser

peace

thanks.
and is that your car in your avatar?

Peace bro

yeh man the Quran is just an amazing book, it has all the answers to any question regarding God, this testing life, death and the judgment

For the photo bro she is my second wife, I married her over 10 years ago and our relation is damn strong and I tell you mate unlike the first wife, my second always listens to me where ever I tell her to go, I love her bro. my first wife surely very jealouse of her, true lol

Peace

Andya_Primanda

To get things back on topic...

I agree that some people will have more knowledge of some things than others, they are the ulama--'knowledgeable men'. I don't have problems with the existence of the ulama. The problem would be the fact that the so-called ulama of religious knowledge are sometimes elevated by the masses/authorities (or even by themselves) to the status of priests where they have absolute authority.

I think most people here would agree with that.

mquran

I agree that some people will have more knowledge of some things than others, they are the ulama--'knowledgeable men'. I don't have problems with the existence of the ulama. The problem would be the fact that the so-called ulama of religious knowledge are sometimes elevated by the masses/authorities (or even by themselves) to the status of priests where they have absolute authority.

I think most people here would agree with that.

I disagree that it happens sometimes

Andya_Primanda

I disagree that it happens sometimes

Not all of them are 'elevated' to priests, hence sometimes.

mquran

Not all of them are 'elevated' to priests, hence sometimes

Well, if not 'elevated' , how else would they get there. Say the ulama association had no support from the people, can they self-elevate? I don't think they can.

bmbmm

Well then. Let the Islamic Scholars sort us out.

phoenix1

peace

That's the whole problem mquran, people support the "ulema" too much.
its the trust people have in the scholars that's caused Islam's downfall.

mquran

Phoenix, I'd like to extrapolate that too trust anyone has in anything except Allah. A Quranic society, imho is where people rely on thier own experience of the ayaat mostly as opposed to using an intermediate.

unknownuser

As far as I am concerned the 'scholars of Islam' are exactly that - scholars of popular Islam.

Popular Islam is a blend of Arabian ideas with some Judeo-Christian thought, and large helping of Persian concepts. And these are the experts in these fields.

Depending on locality as well, local customs can be added to the mix and subsequently become part of popular Islam.

For me, I take the text as if it were revealed just now, with no baggage.

bmbmm

Hi T.A.F.K.A.G,

I wish I know what your name TAFKAG is but anyway I agree with your understanding. I think this Islamic Scholar thing is total ignorance and pride of the muslim vicars.