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the reading(quran) is not the title of any book

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    zsrin
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    Peace,

    If anyone think my understanding of "ego" is wrong..Please point out with facts...

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      unknownuser
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      Ego means ''An exaggerated sense of self-importance''. similiary exaggerated self-esteem or self pride. it has a negative connotation to it.

      Peace!

      thanks for the info, you also proved my point that szrin is trying to stretch it to give the word "hawa" a negative feeling so the verse I posted about the people who follow their hawa will be specific to the ones who are following a negative attitude "ego", therefore he can exclude himself freely as if he believes that he does not have ego "hawa"

      see, clear as light

      happy new year

      peace

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        zsrin
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        peace,

        well if you think the word "ego" is only something negative..then I can't do anything..its just like saying a "fire" is only a negative element...

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          unknownuser
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          what a time waster you are zsrine

          this is my last comment to you regarding this subject

          Desire as a noun

          My desire is flying = Hawaya El-Tiaran

          Desire as a verb

          I desire flying = Ina Ihawa El-Tiaran

          c u in another thread

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            zsrin
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            peace,

            what nonsense is that? we were talking about what? and what are you talking about?

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              unknownuser
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              Hi zsrin and Ahmed Bahgat,

              Hi zsrin,

              see, that does not mean "Hawa", because Hawa is a desire not self pride, unless I understand ego wrong

              .
              being a person with ego never mean arrogant.... one is an arrogant person when he/she let his/her ego control himself/herself...
              in the dictionary
              ego means self-pride / self-importance / self-esteem/

              Ego means ''An exaggerated sense of self-importance''. similiary exaggerated self-esteem or self pride. it has a negative connotation to it.

              its not neccessarily "exaggerated"...It can also be just
              Appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem.
              http//www.answers.com/topic/ego
              As I said, it depends on how far u understand the word...

              I agree. ' Ego' can also mean ''appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem''.
              Its more often used as ''exagerated''

              But literally, yes, ur meanings are right as well.

              Ego
              ? noun (pl. egos) 1 a person?s sense of self-esteem or self-importance.
              http//www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/ego?view=uk

              Definition
              ego
              noun plural egos
              1 MAINLY DISAPPROVING your idea or opinion of yourself, or a great feeling of your own importance and ability
              That man has such an enormous ego - I've never known anyone so full of themselves!
              I'm glad she got the job - she needed something to boost/bolster her ego (= give her confidence).
              See also alter ego; superego.

              2 SPECIALIZED in psychoanalysis, the part of a person's mind which tries to match the hidden desires of the id (= part of unconscious mind) with the demands of reality

              egocentric
              adjective MAINLY DISAPPROVING
              describes someone who is selfish, thinking only of themselves
              Babies are entirely egocentric, concerned only with when they will next be fed.

              egocentrically
              adverb MAINLY DISAPPROVING

              egocentricity
              noun MAINLY DISAPPROVING

              egomania
              noun DISAPPROVING
              when a person considers themselves to be very important and able to do anything that they want to do

              egomaniac
              noun DISAPPROVING
              a person who considers themselves to be extremely important and able to do anything that they want to do

              egotism
              noun (ALSO egoism) DISAPPROVING
              the tendency to think only about yourself and consider yourself better and more important than other people
              Finding herself world-famous by the time she was eighteen only encouraged the actress's egotism.

              egotist
              noun (ALSO egoist) DISAPPROVING
              a person who considers themselves to be better or more important than other people
              Politicians are notorious egotists.

              egotistic, egotistical
              adjective
              http//dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=24931

              Bu in my opinion,

              "Vain Desire" and Ego, whats the different??

              Vain desire and ego are not equivalent words.

              Peace!

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                Fahad1
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                that is a bit of a stretch bro, the arabci Quran is one text since revelation can you show two different Arabic Quran that are for sale, like the many english translatipons for sale?

                Again, you don't get my message...Did I say Quran? I said "Koran" and I have seen hundreds type of Koran...Big, small, black and white, or coloured version...

                Quran = Koran =

                nice try regrarding the coloured Qurans you saw, lol I saw them too, but is the arabic texts between them are different? this may take you a few years to verify

                whats the difference ?!
                salam.

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                  unknownuser
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                  that is a bit of a stretch bro, the arabci Quran is one text since revelation can you show two different Arabic Quran that are for sale, like the many english translatipons for sale?

                  Again, you don't get my message...Did I say Quran? I said "Koran" and I have seen hundreds type of Koran...Big, small, black and white, or coloured version...

                  Quran = Koran =

                  nice try regrarding the coloured Qurans you saw, lol I saw them too, but is the arabic texts between them are different? this may take you a few years to verify

                  whats the difference ?!
                  salam.

                  Peace bro

                  do you mean between the "Quran" and "Koran"?

                  if yes

                  then, there is no difference whatsoever, it is the flawed method of writing arabic words using english letters that caused this confusion

                  the first arabic letter in the word "Quran or Koran" is "Qaf" this can be represented using a "Q" or a "K", as well the dumma on the first letter can be represenetd by an "O" or a "U", the second letter in both "Koran and Quran"

                  peace mate

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                    Fahad1
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                    do you mean between the "Quran" and "Koran"?

                    if yes

                    then, there is no difference whatsoever, it is the flawed method of writing arabic words using english letters that caused this confusion

                    the first arabic letter in the word "Quran or Koran" is "Qaf" this can be represented using a "Q" or a "K", as well the dumma on the first letter can be represenetd by an "O" or a "U", the second letter in both "Koran and Quran"

                    peace mate

                    salam bro.
                    well that much i know . thanks anyway . no twisting of words therein.

                    I said "koran" not "Quran"..again you are twisting your words..

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                      el-Aziz
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                      Ahmed,

                      I'm dying to hear about the challenge now.
                      Please tell us about it so that we maybe can give it a go!

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                        unknownuser
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                        Ahmed,

                        I'm dying to hear about the challenge now.
                        Please tell us about it so that we maybe can give it a go!

                        Bro

                        I posted it twice, if you want to take on it you need to spend about 2 years studying arabic and mastering all the secrets of this language, and believe me there are secrets "LOL after you do this, i'm sure you will understand what is required to pass, it will be a waste of time for me and you to explain more than what i have done already,

                        but truely if you are inteested there is only one way to be able to have a go, YOU NEED TO MASTER THE ARABIC LANGUAGE lol , I'm flunet but I'm not a master in it wink

                        would like to see the rest of the trials all over the history?

                        BTW I Know Nazar Qabani very well, i just didn't comment on his poetry

                        peace

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                          el-Aziz
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                          Ahmed,

                          I'm dying to hear about the challenge now.
                          Please tell us about it so that we maybe can give it a go!

                          Bro

                          I posted it twice, if you want to take on it you need to spend about 2 years studying arabic and mastering all the secrets of this language, and believe me there are secrets "LOL after you do this, i'm sure you will understand what is required to pass, it will be a waste of time for me and you to explain more than what i have done already,

                          but truely if you are inteested there is only one way to be able to have a go, YOU NEED TO MASTER THE ARABIC LANGUAGE lol , I'm flunet but I'm not a master in it wink

                          would like to see the rest of the trials all over the history?

                          Hey, never mind about the language skills. I've been studying Arabic for almost ten years. I think I can manage. The only thing I want you to do is formulate the challenge. Not by endless assertions joined with random Koranic verses. Just pick out the crucial part, i.e. what the challenge is about. What is it about the challenge that no person has been able to do.

                          If there is a challenge inside the Koran, then certainly there can't be a problem for you simply stating what it is.

                          Now, would you mind just state - in your own words - what challenge there is. Please!

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                            unknownuser
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                            Ahmed,

                            I'm dying to hear about the challenge now.
                            Please tell us about it so that we maybe can give it a go!

                            Bro

                            I posted it twice, if you want to take on it you need to spend about 2 years studying arabic and mastering all the secrets of this language, and believe me there are secrets "LOL after you do this, i'm sure you will understand what is required to pass, it will be a waste of time for me and you to explain more than what i have done already,

                            but truely if you are inteested there is only one way to be able to have a go, YOU NEED TO MASTER THE ARABIC LANGUAGE lol , I'm flunet but I'm not a master in it wink

                            would like to see the rest of the trials all over the history?

                            Hey, never mind about the language skills. I've been studying Arabic for almost ten years. I think I can manage. The only thing I want you to do is formulate the challenge. Not by endless assertions joined with random Koranic verses. Just pick out the crucial part, i.e. what the challenge is about. What is it about the challenge that no person has been able to do.

                            If there is a challenge inside the Koran, then certainly there can't be a problem for you simply stating what it is.

                            Now, would you mind just state - in your own words - what challenge there is. Please!

                            To write a sura like the Quran

                            peace

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                              el-Aziz
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                              Hey, never mind about the language skills. I've been studying Arabic for almost ten years. I think I can manage. The only thing I want you to do is formulate the challenge. Not by endless assertions joined with random Koranic verses. Just pick out the crucial part, i.e. what the challenge is about. What is it about the challenge that no person has been able to do.

                              If there is a challenge inside the Koran, then certainly there can't be a problem for you simply stating what it is.

                              Now, would you mind just state - in your own words - what challenge there is. Please!

                              To write a sura like the Quran

                              peace

                              Ok, so have I understood this correctly...
                              All I need to do is write a chapter which by language is similar to the one of the Koran?

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                                unknownuser
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                                Hey, never mind about the language skills. I've been studying Arabic for almost ten years. I think I can manage. The only thing I want you to do is formulate the challenge. Not by endless assertions joined with random Koranic verses. Just pick out the crucial part, i.e. what the challenge is about. What is it about the challenge that no person has been able to do.

                                If there is a challenge inside the Koran, then certainly there can't be a problem for you simply stating what it is.

                                Now, would you mind just state - in your own words - what challenge there is. Please!

                                To write a sura like the Quran

                                peace

                                Ok, so have I understood this correctly...
                                All I need to do is write a chapter which by language is similar to the one of the Koran?

                                no it can't be similar, this means you are copycat lol nice try

                                you have to come with something about "let's say Allah" of your own and has the a stunning qualities of the Quran using a different "Bihar", and if you do it with me and I'm stunned I will concede

                                I will go and spend the today's holiday with the kids and family and I will keep checking this post, but I want it in arabic please and try to make it a huge font as my eye sight is a bit odd

                                I will check the grammar as well bro, I need a min of a line and half

                                thanks

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  Forgot to say bro, you can seek the help of anyone you wish in the heaven and earth

                                  peace

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                                    el-Aziz
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                                    no it can't be similar, this means you are copycat lol nice try

                                    you have to come with something about "let's say Allah" of your own and has the a stunning qualities of the Quran using a different "Bihar", and if you do it with me and I'm stunned I will concede

                                    I will go and spend the today's holiday with the kids and family and I will keep checking this post, but I want it in arabic please and try to make it a huge font as my eye sight is a bit odd

                                    I will check the grammar as well bro, I need a min of a line and half

                                    thanks

                                    Right, so a chapter "like" the Koran but not similar. What's the difference anyway?! But ok, I got it.
                                    Then I assume I can write sbout the things that the Koran writes about.
                                    You will check the not Arabic but Quraishi Arabic grammar.

                                    That's it? That's all I need to do?

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      no it can't be similar, this means you are copycat lol nice try

                                      you have to come with something about "let's say Allah" of your own and has the a stunning qualities of the Quran using a different "Bihar", and if you do it with me and I'm stunned I will concede

                                      I will go and spend the today's holiday with the kids and family and I will keep checking this post, but I want it in arabic please and try to make it a huge font as my eye sight is a bit odd

                                      I will check the grammar as well bro, I need a min of a line and half

                                      thanks

                                      Right, so a chapter "like" the Koran but not similar. Got it.
                                      Then I assume I can write sbout the things that the Koran writes about.
                                      You wil check the not Arabic but Quraishi Arabic grammar.

                                      That's it? That's all I need to do?

                                      well bro lol

                                      not sure about the qurishi grammar, that sound like a bit if a stretch to me, lol as far as i know there is only one arabic grammar

                                      now to write a sura like it, means like the miraculous style but you must bring your own "No copy cat" that will stun the majority of all arab speakers, and beacuse I'm one of them I will give you my honest opinion and a decleration signed by a justice of peace

                                      yeh a message about God should be a nice start or possibly the Judgment Day,

                                      your call

                                      peace

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                                        el-Aziz
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                                        no it can't be similar, this means you are copycat lol nice try

                                        you have to come with something about "let's say Allah" of your own and has the a stunning qualities of the Quran using a different "Bihar", and if you do it with me and I'm stunned I will concede

                                        I will go and spend the today's holiday with the kids and family and I will keep checking this post, but I want it in arabic please and try to make it a huge font as my eye sight is a bit odd

                                        I will check the grammar as well bro, I need a min of a line and half

                                        thanks

                                        Right, so a chapter "like" the Koran but not similar. Got it.
                                        Then I assume I can write sbout the things that the Koran writes about.
                                        You wil check the not Arabic but Quraishi Arabic grammar.

                                        That's it? That's all I need to do?

                                        well bro lol

                                        not sure about the qurishi grammar, that sound like a bit if a stretch to me, lol as far as i know there is only one arabic grammar

                                        now to write a sura like it, means like the miraculous style but you must bring your own "No copy cat" that will stun the majority of all arab speakers, and beacuse I'm one of them I will give you my honest opinion and a decleration signed by a justice of peace

                                        yeh a message about God should be a nice start or possibly the Judgment Day,

                                        your call

                                        peace

                                        Ok, the "miraculous style", what is significant to that? Just plain and simple so I will now what miracles to stick to...

                                        Sorry, my bad about the grammar. Would you like me to write it in Quraishi Arabic or modern standard arabic?

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                                          no it can't be similar, this means you are copycat lol nice try

                                          you have to come with something about "let's say Allah" of your own and has the a stunning qualities of the Quran using a different "Bihar", and if you do it with me and I'm stunned I will concede

                                          I will go and spend the today's holiday with the kids and family and I will keep checking this post, but I want it in arabic please and try to make it a huge font as my eye sight is a bit odd

                                          I will check the grammar as well bro, I need a min of a line and half

                                          thanks

                                          Right, so a chapter "like" the Koran but not similar. Got it.
                                          Then I assume I can write sbout the things that the Koran writes about.
                                          You wil check the not Arabic but Quraishi Arabic grammar.

                                          That's it? That's all I need to do?

                                          well bro lol

                                          not sure about the qurishi grammar, that sound like a bit if a stretch to me, lol as far as i know there is only one arabic grammar

                                          now to write a sura like it, means like the miraculous style but you must bring your own "No copy cat" that will stun the majority of all arab speakers, and beacuse I'm one of them I will give you my honest opinion and a decleration signed by a justice of peace

                                          yeh a message about God should be a nice start or possibly the Judgment Day,

                                          your call

                                          peace

                                          Ok, the "miraculous style", what is significant to that? Just plain and simple so I will now what miracles to stick to...

                                          the signficance of that is to prove that what you are writing is comong from someone knowledgable, not a new kid on the block

                                          Sorry, my bad about the grammar. Would you like me to write it in Quraishi Arabic or modern standard arabic?

                                          well I don't know what that Qurishi arabic you are talking about, but if it makes you feel good to write in it, please do

                                          peace

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