Why I left so called "islam"....
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Nobody believes in the so called Sunnah which you are refering too on this forum. You better join the Ahl Sunnah Wa Al Jammah forum where they have Pirs who are providing spritual guidance online.
How do Pirs do that, man ? They send some cyber-baraka through the net or something?
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I believe in the Sunnah of Muhammad and all the rest of God's messengers, God bless them all. I just don' believe that the hadeeth is a good place to find it, and the Koran is the optimal place to find it.
And as it concerns rabb. 'Illa' in old Classical Arabic can mean 'despite' also. In Hebrew the word 'rabb' has a similar meaning and that is where 'rabbi' comes from. But it is taken in the sense of a teacher which is also a valid meaning of the Arabic word. So I interpret that as we should not take each other as lords, teachers, sustainers, cherishers etc., despite God, because he is the ultimate teacher, lord, sustainer, cherisher, etc.
The word has the same sense of 'master' in the old Kung Fu movies, if you've ever watched one of those.
Godbless,
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hi its good to see my post is still active loool
drama almost always follows me looool
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Hello everyone my name is Amanda and i am am American girl who has always searched for God. I went to church alot as a child and lvoed it since it took me away from fighting at home and everyone there was kind and hugged me and seemed to really care and listen.
After my parents divorce at age ten I was very mixed up emotionally i neded God but my mom worked 2 jobs and could not take me to church anymore. after 2 years I lived with my dad who never really went to church except on Christmas and Easter I think becasue of my Grandma. so I begged to go to church so my aunt took me then after a year or so I got older and started questioning things and found no answers at my church so i stopped going to my home church and searched for the true church.
I explored almost every denomination and never felt satisfied. untill I found a non denominational church. I stayed untill 17 there at that church when i decided I wanted to be a minister. I started studying the bible hard and decided to give up tv secular music and anything against God. I was very active and carried my bible with me in my car always. I then was out of high school and got a summer job before college where i met a black guy who one day whore a hat that said allah in arabic on the front as soon as i saw it i felt i knew it so i asked him what it meant he said it said God in arabic.
i looked surprised and exclaimed your not arabic then he explained he was msulim he converted four years prior i was interested in his story only to figure out why he left christianity and how he could abandon Jesus our "savior" i quoted bible from my car and argued he never got angry like other christians did when we discussed so he intrigued me and gave me brochures i was trying toread them to find a way to disprove it and bring him back to Christ.
In my reading i discovered the truth i just knew it from my soul that it was true thus began my journey for truth. I had to find what this islam was ans how it turned people from Christ. was this the anti christ the bible referred to thats what my chrusch said. so i tried to call him and go to his meeting to not learn but to show them they are wrong. i argued with an imam and he never got angry but i neevr talked to that guy again. later.....
months later i met a guy... me and my friend met him and his cousin and they told us they were of hispanic descent since they were tan so we assumed they were christian untill one day we were out to eat and they reufsed to eat our pork? we wondered why then we found out they were not hispanic but arabs and muslims i never even met and arab or a muslim besides that guy ron who was waymore "religous" than these 2
i was curious i asked questions and got no answers they were not trying to show me there religion actually told me that i was chrisitan and i should stay christian and not to try to be muslim or arab like them and be myself.
this lingered in my mind why they had not tried to turn me to there side was i not good enough to be like them. ???
so i began to study about islam out of curiousity...
that year i accepted islam but never knew alot of "real muslims"
i fought with my family about arabs and islam and eventually was told to leave the home
i lived in my car and in hotels untill i found a helper at a shia mosque
i began to get my life togher and got an apartment with the mosque help but with the condition i had to wear jilbob and hijob so i did i didnt want to live in the streets again
i went to the mosque everyday almost and began to see myself as prey for old muslim guys and even was asked by the sheikh to meet a 40 year old man to possibley marry so i didmeet him just to please the imam but said no to the marriagei did not like him i was 19 he was 40 no attraction at all
i felt the shias so sexual it was all about temporay marriage and hierarchy and money and how i could help their muslims get green cards i felt so used
also i hated the culture and the lowered status of women in the house only and the "clicks" and the beating urself up in ashura i did not understand it
and did not cry when the others cried for imam hussein i didnot feel a thing and people stared at me liek i was a traitor i didnot fit in i did not like it
i felt ripped off this was not the islam read aboutso i left islam and eventually became a christian again
i was a christian again for almost 2 years
then i married a palestinian man i loved so much he was soo kind
he was not religious so he was not like "them" i thought
i thought i could change himinto christian and itired and even got an arabic biblehis family found out and we almost divorced
i was devastated so i agreed to stop the campaign
then i discovered sunni islam
actually selafis and they were so mean and strict and actually tried to convince me to divorce my husband since he was not praying
i almost did.....
but thank God showed me they were wrongi left them and tried the "regular" sunnis they were less strict and mean but very judgemental calling shias non believers and selafis extremists i felt no unity in isalm and became confused i read islam ws universal and i feklt no universality amongst muslims themselves and the islamic politics i studied and began to hate the islamic sharia and felt it was wrong i lost alot of friends liek this
i was now alienated from theislamic community forspeakingmy mind and i was so isolated i felt so alone
i began to goonlineto islamic chat and was evenmore confused i began to hate arabs and muslims for there way which i thoughtwas islamic but later found out was really culture inspired by hadeeth. i began to hate the prophet fromthe hadeeth and began to question my faith againi thought what a sick man muhamamd from what i read about him why should he be from god i thought after reading alot of hadeeth
then i was disgusted by the rituals that ruled our lives as a hdeeth following muslims i was confused and full of anxietydid i use my right foot? did i say that right? jinns are in the bathroom looking at me in a sick way i was paranoid and stressed i could not keep up with the rituals i thought how can God want us to live like this full of meaningless rituals and hatred
several different mosques i attented and found many people trying to convicne me suicide bombing was halal and american was evil and conspired toget the arabs they tried to convince me jews were evil etc
i began to hate everyone
deep inside i felt this is not the way i God i jsut did not feel right in my soul
so again i became an apostate...
and tried to go back to christianity but iknew toomuch now and could not beleive in trinity anymore
so i became a unitarian christian who beleive in God alone but not trinity but held to jesus was saviour
then God began to show me through my life the right way
slowly i came back to islam but decided to stay away from muslims
i just thought about the hadeeth that even if this is true i will have to rely on Gods mercy that i can not follow it
then i some how came across quran alone teachings subhan allah
i read and read and i know now this is true this what i have always beleived
i thank God for finally showing me the truth i have been searching for since i was 10 years old ~ 15 years finally foubnd the truth~
my eyes fill with tears of joy
but i now have to again start islam all over again i still find myself doing or saying meaningless ritualsitic things and it is hard to break thiose habits
slowly i am and i am starting to finally feel free
i never knew how great it feels to be trutly guided
it is amazing so many billions of muslsim and many converts on the wrong path
woow
how did i ever deserve the truth when so many others are astray
God must have saw somehting in me i neevr saw inmyselfi feel very lucky that i found the truth and am here to tell yuo about it
even when i debate other msulims they seem to talk in circles and am not fooled by there lies
i now understand alot moe
i have now become to really open my eyes to things that were right in front of me before but i never really sawits like i was blind and now i can see the truth for the first time ever
reminds me of my christian days
amazing grace how sweet the sound i was once lost but now i am found
was once blind but now i seethank you God for lifting the veil for me and showing me the way
i thank you fromt he bottom of my heart and the depth of my being
ilove you God
plese show everyone else the truth inshallahThank you for your time and reading my story
"Allah guides whom he chooses"
Thank you for choosing me...
Quran alone is the only way...
The truth shall set you freeHumbly yours,
AmandaI wish the best for you as well.
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peace to all of you,
I thank all of you for reading and responding to my posts!
MAy God bless you all!
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I am sorry to tell you that you are reading the wrong book. God is not in the Kur'an, Islam the wicked witch is. God loves you Amanda and I am telling you today that God is calling you back into his fold. You got confused, you wandered away form Jesus, but He loves you and wants you back with his father.
Satan is a deceiver. You yourself said that you don't understand why anybody can follow Muhammad. But the Qur'an is Muhammad. Now Satan saw that you put up a good fight and deceived you the more by leading you to believe that the Qur'an has an answer for you. Everybody who joins Islam in one way or another is under condemnation. Reading the Qur'an might sooth you, but it is a trap for souls for Islam.
The Qur'an contains the thought of men, while the Bible contains the thought of God. Your soul fought and lost. But God never gives up on his children and He knows that you love him and that is why today he leads me to your story. I never care to read people's stories but it is your choice now to find the way home to our Lord Jesus. God gave one book to his people and it is the Bible where the Books of Moses are and where Jesus and his action of salvation is.
The Muslims say that Jesus didn't die on the cross. No matter how beautiful and flowery the Qur'an is, it is a book of condemnation not salvation.
I hope that you are happy with your husband, but your soul has to make a choice Stay with the works of Muhammad or the works of God.
May God make you choose the path of Y'shua which is the only path for those called by the God of Israel!
Great hug from me
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I hope that you are happy with your husband, but your soul has to make a choice Stay with the works of Muhammad or the works of God.
Strangely, her last sentence makes sense.
We follow the Qur'an, which is the word of God.
We avoid the hadith, which is most likely the works of men, and the Bible, which has been tampered by men.
And we think Isa/Jesus is not God.
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I am sorry to tell you that you are reading the wrong book. God is not in the Kur'an, Islam the wicked witch is. God loves you Amanda and I am telling you today that God is calling you back into his fold. You got confused, you wandered away form Jesus, but He loves you and wants you back with his father.
Satan is a deceiver. You yourself said that you don't understand why anybody can follow Muhammad. But the Qur'an is Muhammad. Now Satan saw that you put up a good fight and deceived you the more by leading you to believe that the Qur'an has an answer for you. Everybody who joins Islam in one way or another is under condemnation. Reading the Qur'an might sooth you, but it is a trap for souls for Islam.
The Qur'an contains the thought of men, while the Bible contains the thought of God. Your soul fought and lost. But God never gives up on his children and He knows that you love him and that is why today he leads me to your story. I never care to read people's stories but it is your choice now to find the way home to our Lord Jesus. God gave one book to his people and it is the Bible where the Books of Moses are and where Jesus and his action of salvation is.
The Muslims say that Jesus didn't die on the cross. No matter how beautiful and flowery the Qur'an is, it is a book of condemnation not salvation.
I hope that you are happy with your husband, but your soul has to make a choice Stay with the works of Muhammad or the works of God.
May God make you choose the path of Y'shua which is the only path for those called by the God of Israel!
Great hug from me
Selina, all of the above "facts" according to you, are based on the authority of YOUR WORDS. We here seek the truth based on the authority of THE GOD'S WORDS. Just because Selina says so does not make it a fact.
The mighty incorruptible and scientifically and logically accurate book The Qur'aan itself never claims to have been authored by Muhammad and has amazing qualities which have been unmatched by humans despite the challenges issued by The God Himself
223 And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to Our servant, then bring a chapter like this, and call upon your witnesses other than God if you are truthful.
1038 Or do they say he invented it? Say "Then bring a chapter like it, and call upon whoever you can besides God if you are truthful!"
1113 Or do they Say "He invented it!" Say "Bring ten invented chapters like it, and call on whom you can besides God if you are truthful."
1114 So, if they do not respond to you, then know that it was sent down with God's knowledge, and that there is no god but He. Will you then surrender?1788 Say "If all the humans and the Jinn were to gather to bring a Quran like this, they could not come with its like, even if they were helping one another."
5233 Or do they Say "He made it all up"? No, they simply do not believe.
5234 Let them produce a narration like this, if they are truthful.It contains some scientific facts which no human could have possibly known 500 years ago, let alone 1500 years ago.
Selina, if you doubt that The Qur'aan is the true word of The God and believe that it is made up or invented by a man then why don't you take The God up on His challenge issued to all mankind and jinn combined. Get the help of anyone you like.
224 And if you cannot do this; and you will not be able to do this; then beware the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, it has been prepared for the rejecters.
482 Do they not reflect on the Quran? If it was from any other than God they would have found in it much difference/disagreement/contradiction.
Listen and heed to The God's advice
1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and mind, all these you are responsible for.
1038 Or do they say he invented it? Say "Then bring a chapter like it, and call upon whoever you can besides God if you are truthful!"
1039 No, they have lied about that which they did not have knowledge of, nor has its explanation come to them. It is also how those before them denied, so see how was the retribution of the wicked!
1040 And there are some of them who believe in it, and some of them do not believe in it. Your Lord is better aware of the transgressors.
1041 And if they deny you, then Say "I have my deeds, and you have your deeds. You are innocent from what I do, and I am innocent from what you do."
1042 And there are some of them who listen to you; but can you make the deaf hear, if they do not comprehend?
1043 And there are some of them who look at you; but can you guide the blind, if they do not see?
1044 God does not wrong the people in the least, but it is the people who wrong themselves.Selina, read The Qur'aan in its entirety; it speaks for itself. May The God guide you to the truth and the straight path.
1037 This Quran could not have been produced without God, but it is to authenticate what is already present, and to give detail to the Scripture in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds.
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may peace be upon you amanda.
to tell you the truth, i am pretty much like you, despite the fact that i haven't converted to christianity(but i prayed with the jehovah's witnesses once then i went back to my country i once went to my home mosque and stayed in the prostrating positiion for 40 minutes seeking forgiveness from allah(i called god allah since it was a sunni thing). you went back and forth, back and forth...... like me (please read my article) and i am well aware of the fact that you used to be a christian and if i offended you with any antagonism about mr. christ on my article then i truely apologize, especially if you still have any glimpse of your 'leftover faith'. funny though, if we met a long time ago, not in this website, but in real life, we would've HATED EACH OTHER because at one point of your long life you hated the muslims(with more than enough reasons) and i hated the christians(with more than enough reasons).... that's why i say i am like you despite the fact we never even met..... thank the god that we met after we cleared our hatred and i am thankful for that. D
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salam alaykum
im glad you messaged me
if you have yahoo messenger send me a message
diamond_in_the_sand11703
amanda
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sorry, amanda i feel the only way to contact me at this point is through here. i am a very free person, i never feel insecured online because i know mankind is far too weak...... so i always am honest about myself when exchanging info and i am well aware of the fact that everyone thinks differently... so i respect that... and times change.... because it is a relative matter rather than absolute so we change as well....
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salam alykum wr wb
peace be upon you
hi this is amanda it has been a while since ive posted on here. Well, I am coming to give my update. My daughter Sara has just turned 2 years old and thank God I finally have the copy of the MESSAGE. rreading the preface has been so helpful. I been spending my time studying the word of God as well as observing the "muslims" I have been back to the mosque twice. and honestly the first time i didnt notice anything odd. the second time i went it was like when i tried to convert back to christianity when i went back it just didnt feel right. I heard the imam saying things and i felt compelled to remark right then and there to the other sister near me to the imams flaws and the looks she gave me made me realize io might be the only one there who doesnt think like this. When they started talking about the cartoons of muhammad and the things he said really bothered me. I thank God that I have been guided..doesnt mean ive been feel of any errors. I really after going to the mosque feel like it is my mission to help these people..but know that God is the only guide. Sometimes i wonder..knowing all my faults..why would God give me the truth while all those people could they really be wrong. I have finally understood...God sees things in people that they dont see in themselves. The major thing I asked for truth in total sincerity. I really don't know how I will teach my daughter about islam. I mean how I will go about it. Does anyone have any ideas? Do i tell her all about all the religions even sunnism shiasm etc and then allow her to read all and choose the best way as pertaining to the quran. or do i say this is the way... what is the best approach? I dont wqnt to come down too strong, yet I dont want her to go the wrong way. I really want to get more involved I feel in the last few years God has shown me ways and helped me to change myself in ways i never knew possible. I want to keep learning and discovering myslef so that I may teach my daughter. I am concerned about his family even though they might not be religious. and what is better she is supposed to go to school next year do i put her in a secualr school where she can bbe influenced by xtians or do i put her in a muslim school where she could be influenced by sunnis and shias? i guess this is gonna be harder than i anticipated. any advice?
love your sister in islam
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Salam, )
I think public/secular school is the best choice. Why? Because if your daughter goes to a religious school and she tells her non-traditional belief to her friends, she might get shunned or even harassed.
As for influence from her Xtian friends if she goes to public school, I think there is nothing to worry about. The most important thing is your guidance. If you can explain the logic of her faith (Not forcing her to adopt blind faith) and make her sure she is on the right path then hopefully she will be fine.
I wish you and your family the best
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I am sorry to tell you that you are reading the wrong book. God is not in the Kur'an, Islam the wicked witch is. God loves you Amanda and I am telling you today that God is calling you back into his fold. You got confused, you wandered away form Jesus, but He loves you and wants you back with his father.
Satan is a deceiver. You yourself said that you don't understand why anybody can follow Muhammad. But the Qur'an is Muhammad. Now Satan saw that you put up a good fight and deceived you the more by leading you to believe that the Qur'an has an answer for you. Everybody who joins Islam in one way or another is under condemnation. Reading the Qur'an might sooth you, but it is a trap for souls for Islam.
The Qur'an contains the thought of men, while the Bible contains the thought of God. Your soul fought and lost. But God never gives up on his children and He knows that you love him and that is why today he leads me to your story. I never care to read people's stories but it is your choice now to find the way home to our Lord Jesus. God gave one book to his people and it is the Bible where the Books of Moses are and where Jesus and his action of salvation is.
The Muslims say that Jesus didn't die on the cross. No matter how beautiful and flowery the Qur'an is, it is a book of condemnation not salvation.
I hope that you are happy with your husband, but your soul has to make a choice Stay with the works of Muhammad or the works of God.
May God make you choose the path of Y'shua which is the only path for those called by the God of Israel!
Great hug from me
Hey B***h!
Where is your word of God? Having 1000000 versions of Bible?
e.g. King James version,
New king james version,
21st Century king James version,
New life version
International Readers version
Old testament,
new testament.
Bla Bla,,
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..Is this still a word of God? which has been edited by 100000000 times by humans.
Go first find your original book then come back to invite anyone to christianity.
VirtualEye.