Harun Yahya
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Peace brother,
Evolution and creationism arguments aside, his works concerning uncontestable mainstream Islamic thought, in my opinion, do not contain any bias or libel and warrant reading.
I do not know much about this Edip Yuskel fellow, however, I hardly think he is one to be debunking divine leadership myths or lecturing on cults. If I recall correctly, Rashad Khalifa (whom he was closely associated with) was accused and tried on accounts of sexual harassment of a 16 year old girl.
Although some of Oktar's books concerning science are highly contested and many (most likely) liberally plagerized, I hardly think that Edip Yuskel is in a position to defame his character. I don't know the beef these Turks have with each other, but I can only bet mud slinging and exaduration have been present on both sides of the argument.
Regards,
DCS
O you who believe, you shall avoid much suspicion, for some suspicion is sinful. And do not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite one another. Would one of you enjoy eating the flesh of his dead brother? You certainly would hate this. You shall observe God. God is Redeemer, Merciful. (4912)
spot on bro
peace
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Peace all,
About Harun Yahya's political stance, as far as I remember he took a strong stand against Osama-style terrorism. However I cannot support him for his misguided attacks towards evolution, and I'm also suspicious of his matter=illusion philosophy. All in all, HY is not a person I respect.
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Peace be upon you all,
I dont feel any way about Harun Yahya, I am only interested in the information presented being true or false, but I have enjoyed many of his articles/videos. Good food for thought on his sites.
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Yeah i guess its easy to slander one of the greatest islamic scholars and call him a sexual predator and everything else you could come up with.
It easy to do that and still argue that you are muslim and ofcourse its easy to do that then add your own perverted propaganda to replace his unselfish wisdom.
harunyahya.com is a great site by a great man. hundreds of books for free, he doesn't need your money. This is a man who tries to save those he can, not for the rewards of this life but the next. a great scholar.
Its really muslim like of you to slander him with peadofile acts. Shows exactly that you are not muslims.
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Peace be upon you,
You sound very emotional Morbid. The "scholars" must not have taught you that being at PEACE is the key to successful life.
Where is the example of how you are acting in "Al -Quran"?
If you think we are ignorant, why not leave us with the greeting of "Peace"?
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peace
sometime back i was becomin an atheist started questioning Allah s existence , but somewhere in my heart i knew Allah existed
i waz in a total confused state of mind at tht time
but then my eyes fell on harun yahya s book "allah is known for a reason"
i read only one chapter n trust me tht time i realised tht nothin abt God could be more convincing then this
atleast this guy harun yahya makes us realise he uses simple scientific facts like big bang , photosynthesis ect which we already learned in school to prove his point ,he makes us think abt these things the way in which we never thought before
the facts are in front of us but this guy makes us think it as a creation of Allah ,
stil many pple call him liar and say tht he is scientifically wrong well by the way he uses those facts which have already been thought us in school then how can he be wrong
n besides all his books , videos , audio tapes ,presentations ect are on his website for FREE i think this guy most be earning more then enough money by selling his books , i myself have seen his books in virgin book store n many other book stores , still he has put his books on the net for FREE ,atleast i wouldnt pay money n buy his books if they are already available on the net for free, how many pple think like me n this way how much loss he would suffer, why for wht is he doin this ?think abt his intenstions , think abt other muslim scholors who write books n become famous like harun yahya with their work would they keep their books for Free?
well i respect this guy from my heart it is he who bought me back to faith by Allah s grace and thanks to Allah tht i read his books tht i am back to faith ,atleast he made me think abt creation in a different way
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Harun Yahya's work is great.
Good people, devoted to God's service are always slandered and abused by those who wish to live lives according to their whims.
Just look into history, the Quran gives many examples of upright righeous people who were abused.
May God bring more people to His way through Harun Yahya's work.
We should never accept any slander from any body against Harun Yahya. His work is filled only with good.
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As a scientist I cannot say Harun Yahya's work is great. His misguided attacks on evolution are filled with misinformations, out-of-context quotes, and accusations.
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Peace,
I'd just like to say that, as a Turk, I have come across this 'man' before. He is part of a mafia, has ripped off pieces of work, and has been involved in a lot of shady affairs. As has been a growing trend these people cover up their tracks and just throw money at a problem and evidences and accusers just seem to dissappear.
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For all those who have benefitted from "Harun Yahya" know that the man Adnan Oktar is not responsible.
Read carefully the following excerpt from above.
Adnan is not formally educated, neither in science nor in religion, and he is not capable to understand the depth of subjects that are presented in books and videos carrying his nick name. Therefore, you never see him in public debating with experts. A single public discussion on a TV channel would be enough to turn him to the proverbial Naked King. And he may consider this article as my challenge for him I am ready to meet him in a live debate on TV.
Adnan uses proxies and gets credit for everything. He uses his medical report and gets away for any criminal charge. There are a lot to learn from Adnan Oktar or the exploiter of the names of two messengers of God, Harun and Yahya! His followers, mostly educated and rich, yet gullible youngsters, work day and night to prepare books and videos mostly plagiarized from works of western scientists and artists. In the end, those collaborative and plagiarized works are all together credited to Harun Yahya. Thus, Harun Yahya is a brand name, an artificial name aimed to boost the personal agenda of Adnan Oktar. For instance, in 1990's many of the books credited to him were written by his former follower Metin Kimildar who also used the nick name Cavit Yal?in. (Where are you Cavit Yal?in now?! Are you now renting your nick name as a portal for Harun Yahya's websites or is it taken away from you?). His former student Mustafa Akyol, who has long time declared his freedom from the Adnan Oktar wrote most of the books on Evolution. Mustafa Akyol is now a prominent figure in Intelligent Design movement. Unfortunately, his books are published under the pen name Harun Yahya and credited to Adnan Oktar. Like many of Adnan's former students who know well the dirty tricks of their former master, Mustafa Akyol too is trying to forget the days when he was a young and naive university student.
Adnan Oktar, the creator of the pseudonym "Harun Yahya" is taking credit for the work of his followers.
It can't get any clearer than that. Adnan Oktar is a despicable person.
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Here is my story of realization of Harun Yahya work.
When I first started searching for the truth, I came accross Harun Yahya books in my local mosque book store. I instantly love it becasue of all the nice pictures and really nice cover and print quality. I said "Finally". Then I start reading his books and found his website. The thing I like about his books was he mostly quoted the Quran verses and I love that.
As my knowlege grew, I started reading other materials especially from toluislam and freeminds. I realised that something wrong about his concept and his strong believe on "Jesus will return and Mahdi" I got suspicious and started researching in Quran and other poeple work I finally realized these concept are embedded in Christine doctrine and hadith material. Then I ask myself. How can this "honest" and "sincere" believer can advocate these concept as QURANIC?
I listened to his pretty much all his audio lectures when driving. I must admit there are great information there. I started examining his work critically afterward. His book on "Miracle of Quran" and Video was very beautifully structured and I love it. Some of those miracles mentioned in the book was I read them somwhere else too. Immediatly, I realised that all this beautiful work is done by other researcher of Quran, he just complied them into his book in one place.
I started to see the pattern here, especially his evolution books. That's all he is doing Complile bit and pieces and presenting them as his books.
I used to wonder How this guy mananged to come up with more 200 books and book after book. and Bingo I got the answer. If you just compile INSTEAD of actually Authoring and doing any reasarch, you certainly can.
In conclusion, He is a COMPILER NOT a AUTHOR. One can still benefit from his compiled work like in the case of "Miracle of Quran". My suggestion do your own critcal research and trust GOD for true guidance.
Kashif
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Peace
even if he is a compiler, I'm sure he spends a lot of time in qualifying it then present it in one subject, his great work can't be denied though, it is sort of unity between muslims who work for him, however I'm totally against his secterian belief including Mahdi and the retrun of jesus, i may lean to believe in the return of jesus a bit due to one clue in the Quran, nothing more
Please be aware, Ightiab is a great sin in Islam, it means talkin g ill about another muslim to defame him/her, IT IS NO NO uness there is a danger from that person that we should warn each other from, but anyone who says there danger from H Y, must be a jealous freak, leave the guy alone he does not want anything from anyone it is us that we go and read his compioled work
peace
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however I'm totally against his secterian belief including Mahdi
If you bothered to read the article above you would realise that Adnan Oktar not only believes in the return of the Mahdi - he believes that HE IS THE MAHDI!
Please be aware, Ightiab is a great sin in Islam, it means talkin g ill about another muslim to defame him/her, IT IS NO NO uness there is a danger from that person that we should warn each other from
Would you say that calling someone else a 'jealous freak' based on your misinformation 'ightiab'?
, but anyone who says there danger from H Y, must be a jealous freak,
So there is no danger from someone claiming to be THE "Mahdi", who abuses their position, who is a proven molestor of female members of his following? I'd like to see you send your daughter to Adnan Oktar in that case.
leave the guy alone he does not want anything from anyone
He wants more than you know.
People, here is an allegory of HARUN YAHYA. If there was a church in your neighbourhood that chose the name "Harry Young Church" and they had a priest leading them by the name of Aden Oscar. Say his flock was very committed and compiled books on behalf of the church and did good works individually. Say then tha the leader was a megalomaniac who took all the credit for this work and on the side slept with any of the girls and women in his flock.
Would everyone call that a righteous church?
So it is with Adnan Oktar and his organisation "Harun Yahya".
Don't be appeasers; don't support what is wrong.
We don't believe in mahdis or the need for them, we do not believe in taking advantage of people sexually, we do not believe in deception and stealing others work.
Peace.
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however I'm totally against his secterian belief including Mahdi
If you bothered to read the article above you would realise that Adnan Oktar not only believes in the return of the Mahdi - he believes that HE IS THE MAHDI!
i never read that he claimed to be mehdi
Please be aware, Ightiab is a great sin in Islam, it means talkin g ill about another muslim to defame him/her, IT IS NO NO uness there is a danger from that person that we should warn each other from
Would you say that calling someone else a 'jealous freak' based on your misinformation 'ightiab'?
nice try lol , Ightiab MUST BE DIRECTED AT A SPECIFIC PERSON "IN HIS ABSENCE" TO DEFAME HIM/HER
I defamed no one body
, but anyone who says there danger from H Y, must be a jealous freak,
So there is no danger from someone claiming to be THE "Mahdi",
I don't think so, but you have to prove he claimed as such, as fair as I know he didn't
who abuses their position,
what position exactly?
who is a proven molestor of female members of his following?
i would be careful to claim as such on someone witout providing a single evidence, this is what I call ightiab
I'd like to see you send your daughter to Adnan Oktar in that case.
my daughter is taught Ilsam by muslim women in australia, there is no need for me to send my daughter to a man to teach her Islam, the muslim women can do a far better job for our children
leave the guy alone he does not want anything from anyone
He wants more than you know.
well, time will be the only proof
People, here is an allegory of HARUN YAHYA. If there was a church in your neighbourhood that chose the name "Harry Young Church" and they had a priest leading them by the name of Aden Oscar.[
Say his flock was very committed and compiled books on behalf of the church and did good works individually. Say then tha the leader was a megalomaniac who took all the credit for this work and on the side slept with any of the girls and women in his flock.Would everyone call that a righteous church?
no, but you have to prove you claims before you spread it, otherwise it is Ightiab
So it is with Adnan Oktar and his organisation "Harun Yahya".
Don't be appeasers; don't support what is wrong.
i don't support him, i only support his work that is valid from my perspective
We don't believe in mahdis or the need for them, we do not believe in taking advantage of people sexually, we do not believe in deception and stealing others work.
sure we don't and I donlt think he did any of the above and still going stronger and stronger, if he is a deceiver, time will tell and he can't escape Allah
Peace.
Regards
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His former student Mustafa Akyol, who has long time declared his freedom from the Adnan Oktar wrote most of the books on Evolution. Mustafa Akyol is now a prominent figure in Intelligent Design movement. Unfortunately, his books are published under the pen name Harun Yahya and credited to Adnan Oktar. Like many of Adnan's former students who know well the dirty tricks of their former master, Mustafa Akyol too is trying to forget the days when he was a young and naive university student.
Adnan Oktar, the creator of the pseudonym "Harun Yahya" is taking credit for the work of his followers.
It can't get any clearer than that. Adnan Oktar is a despicable person.
Peace truth,
I've actually been contacted by this Mustafa Akyol some time in the past, when my counter article was still hot. We conversed through e-mail a few times and I must say that apart from our differences regarding evolution he's a pleasant person.
I don't quite catch the info you quoted. Has he broken away from the HY group, and what's his position now, is he still anti-evolution? ANd most important, how do you know about this?