gay people and islam
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It?s a psychological disorder. People having these problems used to consult psychiatrist why use to talk to them and the problem use to be solved once the patients know it?s a disease. What happen not is when they visit a psychiatrist (due to social pressure, the media etc) they are issues CONDOMS so they can go and bo bo someone ? . This is crazy. Some people thing there is a genetic pre-disposition to this. I would say YES even if it is....but why go to such environment to turn on those GENES??? IF they are born to be on then turn them off of God sake! Any GAy people can accept Islam, there shouldn't be a problem, they just need to change their behavior.
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peace stephanie,leyla and all. This is a topic i take interest in because i want to be just to all people,and i want to be sure that i dont negate a type of behaviour that could be acceptable. As i have stated i am married to a woman and i find that natural for me. However if someone-else is born with a different inclination i have to ask 'is this acceptable? I believe(like leyla) that it is not explicit that the crime of the people of lut was being gay.
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bmbmm People having these problems used to consult psychiatrist why use to talk to them and the problem use to be solved once the patients know it?s a disease. What happen not is when they visit a psychiatrist (due to social pressure, the media etc) they are issues CONDOMS so they can go and bo bo someone .
I`d like to know where you got this information from???
These are silly rumours with no foundational basis, according to my knowledge.
Could you please refer me to a name of a person who has been cured of being gay and who has acceptable and realiable medical/psychological data on this being cured??
And could you please also refer me to a name of a psychiatrist handling out condoms to his patients so that they can go an bo bo someone??I have to say, I am quite sceptical of modern urban gay culture and I don?t like most of its facets.
But I am as sceptical of pre programmed minds reading something into the qur?n that just is not there in the plain text and of rumours being spread abouthomosexuality being curable? and stuff like that. -
people always correlate homosexuality to aids, std, and free sex in general. but the thing is that, don't heterosexual people commit premarital and extramarital sex too? but it doesn't make heterosexuality itself a sin, does it?
i strongly believe in intramarital sex, and i'm opposed to any form outside of that. but what i don't understand is that why gay people are not given the right to get married and stay in the monogamous relationship with his/her partner to prove that they can live their lives in such relationship that heterosexual couples have? -
Peace be upon you all,
I will address the story of LOT later, for now, lets just look at the ORGAN structures and ask, did the God make a mistake giving a man a penis while he "likes" men?
What has to get across is that we are talking about LIKES and DISLIKES. These are things that can be CHANGED. We can all verify this in our own lives, there were things that we liked or disliked when we were kids that we have the opposite opinion on today.
Should we go now and say that child molesters are okay because they were born liking children? Of course not, they need help, because it is a sexual perversion, just like homosexuality.
Lets not be like the wife of Lot who looked back, meaning, wanted to overlook the rejecting act, was stuck in her ways (old woman), etc
I'll take a look at your understanding of Lot tonight and respond on that side of this.
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Leyla,
I am a scientist and scientificlly, anatomically and logically it is wrong, what everyou say....I do not want to debate about this. Its common sense. The penis is not for the anus of another bloke!!! This culture is distroying our younger generation and the human race. Although if you are interested in the same sex just go ahead as no one will stop you.
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Peace be upon you Topo,
people always correlate homosexuality to aids, std, and free sex in general. but the thing is that, don't heterosexual people commit premarital and extramarital sex too? but it doesn't make heterosexuality itself a sin, does it?
I am not correlating homosexuality to ANYTHING except having sex with the same gender. Homosexuality is nothing but the most perverse for of sexual perversion, which means the rest belongs to heterosexuals.
i strongly believe in intramarital sex, and i'm opposed to any form outside of that. but what i don't understand is that why gay people are not given the right to get married and stay in the monogamous relationship with his/her partner to prove that they can live their lives in such relationship that heterosexual couples have?
The same reason that child molesters and the kids they molest dont.
Lets be clear, because there is a lot of smoke screens given for this issue. We are not talking about livingwith someone, we are not talking about loving someone, we are talking ONLY about SEX with the same gender, hence the word homoSEXual. People try to say"well they love each other" and all types of nonsense, loving someone does not mean you have sex with them.
And let me conclude once again with the statement, it is not he homosexual person I condemn, it is the homosexual ACT. I have no problem being friends with a homosexual, nor treating them as I would any other person. I find those whom I have encountered to be very nice people and very caring people, but if the topic of having sex comes up, the truth is the truth and we can verify it the same way we verify that an electrical plug goes into an electrical socket. Imagine someone trying to put two plugs together to run thier appliance! D
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Peace be upon you bmbmm,
These culture is distroying out younger generation and the human race.
I have to agree with that statement. There are gangs of girls here who seek other young girls to "turn out".
Regarding the psycological factor, why do many homosexuals end up looking like the opposite gender? What I mean is, okay, you are a woman who likes women, but why do you feel the need to look like a man? Its psycological.
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Peace idolfree
Regarding the psycological factor, why do many homosexuals end up looking like the opposite gender? What I mean is, okay, you are a woman who likes women, but why do you feel the need to look like a man? Its psycological.
Becaue wrong genes are activated and these make them go crazy, its like cocain addiction (just to compare).
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this is one of many things that people equalize homosexuality with, that is child molester. some other people would mention beastiality, poligamy, and as such.
if you were not born gay, you would never feel how it's like to be gay. sometimes we can symphatize to what other people feel because we experience it ourselves.
in my opinion, there is a huge difference between homosexuality and child molester.
homosexuality is engaged between two ADULT people, with full consent from both sides.
while child molesting involves children, whose sexual capability has not developed yet, emotionally and psychologically, even biologically. so the sexual engagement that is resulted from this act will involve manipulation from the adult.
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what happened with people who seem to be 'turned' gay is that they had to hide their sexuality for long time, struggling with it, trying to be heterosexual by marrying a woman, and then they just can't escape their nature.
some gay people succeed hiding it all their lives, but many don't.
guys, lets put it this way. if homosexuality was considered a normal thing in this world, and heterosexuality was not, what would you guys feel if you had to hide your sexual orientation towards opposite sex? what would you feel if you had to marry someone who had the same gender as yours?
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Hi topo,
i think gay marriage is one of the last issues that will go along with civil rights movement.
people today have accepted gender and race equality, yet there is one left to be struggled, the acceptance of gay marriage.Gay marriages have been approved in U.K . Elton John got married recently with david furnish. And gay people are given civil rights here as well.
Peace!
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Salam,
I have no problem with gay people, especially the ones who were born with the disorder. However I'm against some of their behaviors such as 'swinger lifestyle' and Im also against those 'gay recruiters' with their infamous line "How do you know you are not gay if you never try?" Lol
Peace
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i think i've been stuck in the small world called America whose people are so 'religious' that deny the rights of gay people and the rights of women to have abortion.
but yes, i heard about elton john too. it's not that i'm his fans, but i just think everyone has the rights to be legally married, either heterosexual or homosexual.
plus, the gay marriage shows that they are just as committed to marital institution as heterosexual people do.
as far as swingers lifestyle, i believe it's not acceptable lifestyle for anyone, either heterosexual or homosexual. and there are just as many heterosexual couples who engage in swingers lifestyle as homosexual couples are. it's not that they homosexual that make them swingers.
as far as sexual relationship is concerned, i think the most important thing is being monogamous to the partner, as having multiple sexual partners would put people more in the danger of STD. -
Peace "topo"
as far as sexual relationship is concerned, i think the most important thing is being monogamous to the partner, as having multiple sexual partners would put people more in the danger of STD.
JK- Please be a little more farsighted. Who guarantees that a homo relationship would last forever and who says that one of the two gays may not become hetero at one time in the future. He would obviously not inform his new wife or female sexual partner that he had been gay before because of shame and fear that she would most surely ignore him. Thus the acquired STDS are trnaferred to an innocent woman and onto her children. This goes on and on and ultimately the society ends in STDS which leads further to drugs, violence, bloodshed, total disaster. So no homosexuality of any kind should not be tolerated at all. Its not that i would go and beat them up. The people should put up laws to exile those involved in hs activities. GOD Bless!
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and nobody can guarantee either that a heterosexual relationship will last forever. aren't there so many heterosexual couples who got divorced and remarried for several times in their lives? doesn't this mean that heterosexual people can transfer STD from their previous wives or husbands to their new partners? why only heterosexual people who can get married and divorced and remarry again without being accused of trasferring STD? there is no evidence that only homosexual activities that will transfer std. every sexual intercourse, either hetero or homo, has the same risk of std.