gay people and islam
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Peace be upon you Topo,
people always correlate homosexuality to aids, std, and free sex in general. but the thing is that, don't heterosexual people commit premarital and extramarital sex too? but it doesn't make heterosexuality itself a sin, does it?
I am not correlating homosexuality to ANYTHING except having sex with the same gender. Homosexuality is nothing but the most perverse for of sexual perversion, which means the rest belongs to heterosexuals.
i strongly believe in intramarital sex, and i'm opposed to any form outside of that. but what i don't understand is that why gay people are not given the right to get married and stay in the monogamous relationship with his/her partner to prove that they can live their lives in such relationship that heterosexual couples have?
The same reason that child molesters and the kids they molest dont.
Lets be clear, because there is a lot of smoke screens given for this issue. We are not talking about livingwith someone, we are not talking about loving someone, we are talking ONLY about SEX with the same gender, hence the word homoSEXual. People try to say"well they love each other" and all types of nonsense, loving someone does not mean you have sex with them.
And let me conclude once again with the statement, it is not he homosexual person I condemn, it is the homosexual ACT. I have no problem being friends with a homosexual, nor treating them as I would any other person. I find those whom I have encountered to be very nice people and very caring people, but if the topic of having sex comes up, the truth is the truth and we can verify it the same way we verify that an electrical plug goes into an electrical socket. Imagine someone trying to put two plugs together to run thier appliance! D
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Peace be upon you bmbmm,
These culture is distroying out younger generation and the human race.
I have to agree with that statement. There are gangs of girls here who seek other young girls to "turn out".
Regarding the psycological factor, why do many homosexuals end up looking like the opposite gender? What I mean is, okay, you are a woman who likes women, but why do you feel the need to look like a man? Its psycological.
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Peace idolfree
Regarding the psycological factor, why do many homosexuals end up looking like the opposite gender? What I mean is, okay, you are a woman who likes women, but why do you feel the need to look like a man? Its psycological.
Becaue wrong genes are activated and these make them go crazy, its like cocain addiction (just to compare).
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this is one of many things that people equalize homosexuality with, that is child molester. some other people would mention beastiality, poligamy, and as such.
if you were not born gay, you would never feel how it's like to be gay. sometimes we can symphatize to what other people feel because we experience it ourselves.
in my opinion, there is a huge difference between homosexuality and child molester.
homosexuality is engaged between two ADULT people, with full consent from both sides.
while child molesting involves children, whose sexual capability has not developed yet, emotionally and psychologically, even biologically. so the sexual engagement that is resulted from this act will involve manipulation from the adult.
so, comparing homosexuality and child molester to me is quite absurd. -
what happened with people who seem to be 'turned' gay is that they had to hide their sexuality for long time, struggling with it, trying to be heterosexual by marrying a woman, and then they just can't escape their nature.
some gay people succeed hiding it all their lives, but many don't.
guys, lets put it this way. if homosexuality was considered a normal thing in this world, and heterosexuality was not, what would you guys feel if you had to hide your sexual orientation towards opposite sex? what would you feel if you had to marry someone who had the same gender as yours?
that's just like what gay people feel in the world where heterosexuality is the one that is considered the norm. -
Hi topo,
i think gay marriage is one of the last issues that will go along with civil rights movement.
people today have accepted gender and race equality, yet there is one left to be struggled, the acceptance of gay marriage.Gay marriages have been approved in U.K . Elton John got married recently with david furnish. And gay people are given civil rights here as well.
Peace!
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Salam,
I have no problem with gay people, especially the ones who were born with the disorder. However I'm against some of their behaviors such as 'swinger lifestyle' and Im also against those 'gay recruiters' with their infamous line "How do you know you are not gay if you never try?" Lol
Peace
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i think i've been stuck in the small world called America whose people are so 'religious' that deny the rights of gay people and the rights of women to have abortion.
but yes, i heard about elton john too. it's not that i'm his fans, but i just think everyone has the rights to be legally married, either heterosexual or homosexual.
plus, the gay marriage shows that they are just as committed to marital institution as heterosexual people do.
as far as swingers lifestyle, i believe it's not acceptable lifestyle for anyone, either heterosexual or homosexual. and there are just as many heterosexual couples who engage in swingers lifestyle as homosexual couples are. it's not that they homosexual that make them swingers.
as far as sexual relationship is concerned, i think the most important thing is being monogamous to the partner, as having multiple sexual partners would put people more in the danger of STD. -
Peace "topo"
as far as sexual relationship is concerned, i think the most important thing is being monogamous to the partner, as having multiple sexual partners would put people more in the danger of STD.
JK- Please be a little more farsighted. Who guarantees that a homo relationship would last forever and who says that one of the two gays may not become hetero at one time in the future. He would obviously not inform his new wife or female sexual partner that he had been gay before because of shame and fear that she would most surely ignore him. Thus the acquired STDS are trnaferred to an innocent woman and onto her children. This goes on and on and ultimately the society ends in STDS which leads further to drugs, violence, bloodshed, total disaster. So no homosexuality of any kind should not be tolerated at all. Its not that i would go and beat them up. The people should put up laws to exile those involved in hs activities. GOD Bless!
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and nobody can guarantee either that a heterosexual relationship will last forever. aren't there so many heterosexual couples who got divorced and remarried for several times in their lives? doesn't this mean that heterosexual people can transfer STD from their previous wives or husbands to their new partners? why only heterosexual people who can get married and divorced and remarry again without being accused of trasferring STD? there is no evidence that only homosexual activities that will transfer std. every sexual intercourse, either hetero or homo, has the same risk of std.
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Peace "topo",
and nobody can guarantee either that a heterosexual relationship will last forever. aren't there so many heterosexual couples who got divorced and remarried for several times in their lives? doesn't this mean that heterosexual people can transfer STD from their previous wives or husbands to their new partners? why only heterosexual people who can get married and divorced and remarry again without being accused of trasferring STD? there is no evidence that only homosexual activities that will transfer std. every sexual intercourse, either hetero or homo, has the same risk of std.
JK- Heteros if they involve in anal sex, which is the issue, are as bad as homos. Otherwise while using the vagina it's ok. Diseases mostly arise from anal sex not vaginal. Anal sex is the culprit and it should be banned completely. Also let me tell you that hs is not genetic by any means. Nobody is born a homo. I personally was getting attracted to boys in school. I relaized immediately that it had nothing to do with my genes but with my inner evil intentions. I wanted to try out something new, more lust, more pleasure. Sometimes even now those evil thoughts come into my mind and after a few minutes i almost always realize how evil and satanic this is. I feel satan on my mind, i really do and i know that a homo once came to my mother into the clinic(shes a doctor) in germany and admitted that he felt in his heart that hs is completely wrong. Ive noticed from my own body experience that the human is capable of directing his lust at anything, at anything at all, even animals. If this is not stopped it gets out of control and after a few years we men would insert our private parts in every kind of thing and then it will be too late to stop the diseases as unknown viruses and extremely harmful ones utterly detsroy our immune system. GOD Bless!
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Hi topo,
I agree with ur views that homosexuality alone doesnt cause stds, swingers etc. Those are prevalent amongst heterosexuals as well. I have no problems with homosexual people. I understand them to be just as nice as any one else. As for their sexual interest, it doesnt concern me as long as its harmless and restricted amongst people with similar interest.
Im also against those 'gay recruiters' with their infamous line "How do you know you are not gay if you never try?" Lol
but I agree with jankren on this. This ''trying out'' has become popular amongst kids these days and some eventually become bisexuals, which I feel is wrong. coz they are taking it in the casual sense and playing around which is clearly wrong.
Just my opinion.
Peace!
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Peace "PM",
I agree with ur views that homosexuality alone doesnt cause stds, swingers etc. Those are prevalent amongst heterosexuals as well. I have no problems with homosexual people. I understand them to be just as nice as any one else. As for their sexual interest, it doesnt concern me as long as its harmless and restricted amonst people with similar interest.
JK- One leads to another. GOD says many times "do not TRANSGRESS" in the Quran which also implies sexual transgression as any transgression causes ruin to society in the long run and i believe ive explained that well enough above. Whether homos are nice people is not of importnace. Many corrupt businessmen are very nice and kind and when the time come they make a fraud with you that youd never want to see their face again in your life. So much for the nicity. You should heed GOD's Words in the Quran. It warns us aforehand of the people as GOD knows what we do not know and deep study always lead to the conclusion that the Quran was indeed true.
but I agree with jankren on this. This ''trying out'' has become popular amongst kids these days and some eventually become bisexuals, which I feel is wrong. coz they are taking it in the casual sense and playing around which is clearly wrong.
Just my opinion.
Peace!
JK- Yep thats devilish. And as i said its not restricted to hs but goes on to zoophillia too. Theres no end once ur sexual lust ets out of control just like drug addiction, NO, far worse. GOD Bless!
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Peace "topo",
does the quran literally forbid anal sex at all?
are there any verses in the quran about engaging anal sex?JK- Once agaian GOD asked us to use our brain and hence inference.
They ask you about menstruation say, "It is harmful; you shall avoid sexual intercourse with the women during menstruation; do not approach them until they are rid of it. Once they are rid of it, you may have intercourse with them in the manner designed by GOD. GOD loves the repenters, and He loves those who are clean."
Your women are the bearers of your seed. Thus, you may enjoy this privilege however you like, so long as you maintain righteousness. You shall observe GOD, and know that you will meet Him. Give good news to the believers.
From these verses one can infer that we should perform vaginal sex since that is wehere the seed is naturally supposed to enter. I believe GOD is using subtle language to imply the obvious. Also otherwise it wouldnt make much sense that GOD condemn homosexuality either. Putting the puzzle together we find anal sex is not what GOD wants. GOD Bless!