Why should we treat 'non-muslims' different to muslims'?

unknownuser

Peace all. I think the definition of what constitutes a muslim is deeply flawed.(the traditional understanding.) Hence the division of people into non-muslims is also flawed. I dont think there is anybody who can say they are 100% muslim or 100% non-muslim.Labels are convenient,relative tags but as forest gumps mum says 'stupid is as stupid does'. In other words being a muslim is a verb,meaning to behave peacefully. Even a relative title of non-muslim(when a persons behaviour is not peaceful.) would not be a permanent attribute or a noun,and vice versa with a muslim. Most importantly whether someone is classed as a muslim or non-muslim(and that is sometimes subjective,and depends on knowing the persons intention.) it should definately not be used as an excuse to take away that persons human rights and dignity or be a reason for dehumanising them.(and condemning them to hell,even when they are peaceful,but not 'muslim' 'technically'.) I hear too many people downgrading people because of their theoretical beliefs and because they dont share the same 'sectarian' beliefs as others. I regard everyone; muslim,atheist,hindu etc, as my brothers and sisters. If their behaviour/beliefs are harmful or wrong i would try to help them reform or correct themselves,and definately not hate/dehumanise them. Hate is the illusion of seperation, universal love/respect is the realisation that we are all parts of the one reality.(God.) One infinite family.How can we hurt/degrade memebers of our own family?.......... How do people view this topic?
peace all.

phoenix1

peace
i agree with you completely. Don't have anything to add.
I like your understanding of reform instead of punishment. Putting people in jail, cutting their hands off, without explaining to them why their actions were wrong and helping them get rid of those actions in the future, is useless.

unknownuser

Peace phoenix. Also does anyone seriously think they could cut the hand off,of someone they love?
Phoenix,for someone so young, you are very smart. You give me hope for the next generation. )

phoenix1

peace enquirer

thankyou for your kind words. hopefully i won't let you down.
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phoenix1

Also does anyone seriously think they could cut the hand off,of someone they love?

i think they would. it's called 'tough love.'

unknownuser

Peace phoenix. Yes sometimes 'tough love' is needed,but surely not cutting off the hand shock !

phoenix1

unknownuser

Hello

A brother in humanity is totally different to a biological brother as well it is different to a brother in faith

a borther in faith will cover biological brothers and brothers in humanity but not the other way around

there are rights for a brother in humanity, there are rights to a biological brother and there are rights to a brother in faith

peace

unknownuser

Peace ab. thats fine by me....as long as all people are given unconditional general rights. No favouritism,dehumanisation or sectarianism.
Peace all.

agentxxx

Peace enquirer,

I too agree with your views completely but I have to add something in capital letters, GOD BLESS YOU ENQUIRER. You have a good heart, keep on spreading the message of love, peace and tolerance.
I may differ with you on other issues, but such thoughts?..SIMPLY ADMIRABLE. bravo

Peace,
Nadeem.

unknownuser

I believe you only treat the aggressors differently, otherwise peace is what we should strive for.

Problem is man's ego, that's why the sectarianism, favoritism, etc etc

unknownuser

Peace be upon you all,

I agree with all that has been said except for Ahmed, only because I am not sure what he said.

Agent XXX, is that your child in the picture? Beautiful picture either way.

bmbmm

Alright punchi? haha how are you doing?

agentxxx

peace ID1,

Agent XXX, is that your child in the picture?

No brother, she is my wife?s niece and I adore her, my kids are in their teens.

Beautiful picture either way.

Thank brother .

peace.

Edip_Yuksel

If there is an Almighty Creator and if that Creator separates people based on their submission to his laws; then your and my will or wishes do not count. Period.

You wish to distinguish between those who like you and those who do not like you; or those who love you and those who hate you. Don't you? Then why do you think that your Creator cannot have as much as previlage you have?

I accept my Lord's classifications of humans regarding their basic position and actions; they are three

Monotheists, submitters who stand for truth, justice, peace, and liberty.
Polytheists, rejectors. They usually stand for falsehood, injustice, agression and human-worship.
Hypocrites, whose words and intentions or actions do not overlap.

However, I am ready to share the world in peace and justice with those people who will ultimately be judged by our Creator, the only Lord.

Peace,
Edip

unknownuser

Peace agentxxx. Thank you for your kind words .May we all be adverts and examples for love,peace and tolerance. ps; very cute avatar. D
Peace all.

unknownuser

peace Edip. I agree and endorse your view of sharing the world in peace and justice with all people,who will ultimately be judged by god.(reality.)
I think your statement that the lords classification results in three categories of people,.... is in fact your interpretation of the quranic verses.....,and not necessarily the lords classification.... In reality people can be more variable/complex and fall into any of the categories above at any given time and situation. Belief/unbelief are like verbs or temporary descriptions,not necessarily permanent states.(these states can also overlap,relatively speaking. Or be of minor effect.) I believe many people fluctuate between belief/idolatory/hypocrisy...Our job is to try to minimise and defuse our negative/harmful fluctuations.
peace all.

agentxxx

Peace enquirer,

you wrote

ps; very cute avatar. D

Thank you bro. D

enquirer..Our job is to try to minimise and defuse our negative/harmful fluctuations.

I AGREE,

BUDDHAHatred do not ever cease in this world by hating, but by love; this is an eternal truth... Overcome anger by love, Overcome evil by good. overcome the miser by giving, overcome the liar by truth.

JESUS Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. From anyone who takes away your coat do not withhold even your shirt. Give to everyone who begs from you; and if anyone takes away your goods, do not ask for them again.

QURAN-Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!

And who are those who are able to defuse their negative/harmful fluctuations?

And NO ONE WILL BE GRANTED SUCH GOODNESS EXCEPT THOSE WHO EXERCISE PATIENCE AND SELF-RESTRAINT NONE BUT PERSONS OF THE GREATEST GOOD FORTUNE.

Peace.