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    kat
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    salam alaykoum

    i'm new in this forum and i have a bad level of english '(

    i'm muslim girl who trust in god more than every thing and i see that there is very stranges(stupid) hadiths that i don't think that the prophet said or have done that

    i gow up in a sunni family but my parents don't do that salat and i know that sunnis people pray 5 times a day and chiits(they aren't considerated as muslims by a lot of people) 3 times a day .what i want to know is if when prophet muhamed was alive did build a mosque to pray and how many times a day people prayed? in school i have studied religion and they told us that we must pray 5times/day and god didn't talk about how do the salat in coran because he wants us to follow prophet and they told us that sunna is the complement of coran.

    i want you to give me sourate of coran(in arabic please and indicate me which soura is) who shows the meenig of salat and if there mosque

    thank you for reading and understanding what i wrote

    god bless you

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      kat
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      no one want to answer me '(

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        kat
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        the sunni people explain that we have to follow hadiths because god told us to do that by this coran aya

        'wa lakum fi rassouli iswatun 7asana'

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          savage_carrot
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          Peace kat,

          Try the articles-

          http//www.free-minds.org/articles/hadith/refute.htm
          http//www.free-minds.org/articles/hadith/conflict.htm
          http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/slw.htm

          Also read some of the threads in the salat section, they do have differing conclusions so please see what makes sense to you with the evidence provided.

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            Wakas
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            peace kat,

            I personally prefer to go through the occurrences of "salat" in 'al quran' to see what it says. You can find all of these here

            musalla (&#1610 n. m. - 2125

            salat (&#1577 n. f. sing. - 23, 243, 245, 283, 2110, 2153, 2177, 2238, 2277, 443, 477, 4101, 4102, 4103, 4103, 4103, 4142, 4162, 56, 512, 555, 558, 591, 5106, 672, 692, 6162, 7170, 83, 835, 95, 911, 918, 954, 971, 9103, 1087, 1187, 11114, 1322, 1431, 1437, 1440, 1778, 17110, 1931, 1955, 1959, 2014, 20132, 2173, 2235, 2241, 2278, 232, 2437, 2441, 2456, 2458, 2458, 273, 2945, 2945, 3031, 314, 3117, 3333, 3518, 3529, 4238, 5813, 629, 6210, 7023, 7034, 7320, 985, 1075
            salawat (&#1578 nom. gen. n. plu. - 2157, 2238, 999, 2240, 239

            salla (&#1610 vb.II m. - perf. act. 7531, 8715, 9610 - impf. act. 339, plu. neg. 4102, plu. 4102, tusalli (&#1604 neg. 984, yusallee (&#1610 sing. 3343, yusalloona (&#1606 plu. 3356 - salli (&#1604 impv. 9103, salloo (&#1575 plu. 3356, 1082 - musalleena (&#1606 pcple. act. plu. acc. gen. 7022, 7443, 1074

            You may ignore the grammar information if you wish.

            Or if you just want a simple list with the Arabic and English, try this
            http//www.openburhan.com/pages/ob597d.html?root=%D8%B5%D9%84%D9%88%0D


            As for mosque, you can read all the occurrences of "masjid" in 'al quran' here if you wish
            2114, 2144, 2149, 2150, 2187, 2191, 2196, 2217, 52, 729, 731, 834, 97, 917, 918, 919, 928, 9107, 9108, 171, 171, 177, 1821, 2225, 2240, 4825, 4827, 7218


            Wakas

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              zenje
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              Salaam kat and Welcome to the forum.

              Please note that we don't have a very big number of active members on this forum, so don't be alarmed if you don't get a reply in a matter of hours. Also, as savage_carrot mentioned, and as you may have noticed there are many different categories relating to different subjects on the board. Don't forget to go through the various topic there, and when you get the chance, visit the main website - www.free-minds.org

              Peace be with you and again, welcome.

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                Peace kat,

                Try the articles-

                http//www.free-minds.org/articles/hadith/refute.htm
                http//www.free-minds.org/articles/hadith/conflict.htm
                http//mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/think-786/slw.htm

                Also read some of the threads in the salat section, they do have differing conclusions so please see what makes sense to you with the evidence provided.

                "Evidence provided"??? Like what, how, when and where? Oh! I get it...."having differing conclusions"!!! ???

                Each "differing conclusion" thus becomes the one and only "evidence provided". o Go figure that one out. Talk about contradictions, going against the Quran, disbelievers, enemy of Islam, et al. LOL.

                Must anyone say anything against the Quran.....ssshhh, nah, never, not me.

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                  jankren
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                  Salam, )

                  In my opinion, the traditional way of salat was invented to draw the Zoroastrians, Christians and Jews into Islam. Firstly, the moves are similar to Zoroastrian way of prayer. And secondly, I think the mentioning of Muhammad and Abraham is clearly a way to persuade the 'people of the book' into accepting Muhammad because it shows that Islam, just like Christianity and Judaism, believe in Abraham.

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                    arnoldyasin
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                    Peace kat,

                    Welcome to the forum, first of all i say, you're gonna have to get used to the different minds here at the forum, so don't be alarmed if you get some contradicting answers from people.

                    This is one of the best articles on Salat, as it is complete inside the Quran

                    http//www.free-minds.org/articles/quranic/salat_edip.htm

                    So you can get the whole Salat from the Quran itself, as the sunna is a man-made dogma, developed years later after the prophet. As there was no real sunna(=custom, not specificaly only of the prophet, every village, tribe or city had their own sunna), as every city, followed their own customs next to the Quran.

                    The only thing i don't agree is the Qibla being directed to the Kaab'a, as i believe it is focused on the Truth, and i reject the notion of the kneeling dividing the prostration as this is not found in the Quran.

                    The Quran contain all details you need for Islam, enjoy your return to the Quran...... )

                    I can also recommend this article on the history of Hadith

                    http//www.quran.org/library/articles/ahmad0.htm

                    wa-salaam

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                      savage_carrot
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                      "Evidence provided" Like what, how, when and where? Oh! I get it...."having differing conclusions"!!!

                      Can't stay away eh? WHy don't you answer some of mq's questions if you have the time to post?

                      Each "differing conclusion" thus becomes the one and only "evidence provided"

                      Your comprehension isn't that good.

                      Go figure that one out. Talk about contradictions, going against the Quran, disbelievers, enemy of Islam, et al. LOL.

                      I don't need to. You're the one bringing in the issues and open letters. LOL.

                      Must anyone say anything against the Quran.....ssshhh, nah, never, not me.

                      Okay, I'll keep that in mind next time you post, lest it be hypocrisy. Hush now.

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