Is 'hate' the biggest sin?
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Peace prashant-kumar. bravo group yay Very good analysis...
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Peace Ahmed, All
Iblis himself can?t be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
Iblees was not only a kafir but also a mushrik too. Iblees associated his own ego with Allah.
Iblees was the first mushrik. He, proudly, led the way of shirk.
The very first thing he said in response to Allah's command was "Ana (I, Me) is better than him (meaning Adam)..." The Ana the Ego of Iblees was more improtant to him than listening and following God's command. He knows Allah enough to believe him but he also worshipped his ego and gave his ego priority in spite of the penalty that would await him. That is the unseen shirk that most of humans will fall into, their own ego.
You would not see only mushrikeen worshipping people, messengers or man-made gods. As that is the seen shirk.
But there are the mushriks who worship their own egos, following the example of Iblees. They set their own egos as their gods, but not always necessairly setting Iblees as their god.Iblees did not force the mushriks to associate him (Iblees) with Allah, not that he did not try to or did not work for it. But for human to blame it all on Ibless would be unfair, as they had the free will and choice. The same free will Iblees had/has. So to blame it all on Iblees would to the question If humans can blame, who can Iblees blame!?
That is what Iblees wants those mushriks to understand in JD .So Iblees in JD will disown those mushrikeen because he did not force them to worship him, nor worship their egos. They themselves, proudly, chose to do that, with him only misleading them all the way, of course, because he wants company in Jahannam.
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Peace Ahmed
Peace sister
I was just about to knock it off to bed and saw your comment so I thought I reply to it before I end my day
Iblis himself cant be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
Iblees was not only a kafir but also a mushrik too. Iblees associated his own ego with Allah.
The Quran referred to Iblis action as Kufr, can you please show me where it referred to him as a mushrik?
Iblees was the first mushrik. He, proudly, led the way of shirk.
I would like to see verses from the Quran that clearly suggest that Iblis was the first Mushrik, I can?t even s
peculate and say that he is the first kafir, I know according to the Quran that he was referred to as kafir onlyThe very first thing he said in response to Allah's command was "Ana (I, Me) is better than him (meaning Adam)..." The Ana the Ego of Iblees was more improtant to him than listening and following God's command. He knows Allah enough to believe him but he also worshipped his ego and gave his ego priority in spite of the penalty that would await him. That is the unseen shirk that most of humans will fall into, their own ego.
And where the word Mushrik exactly?. I means did he say that ?Ina Mushrik??
You would not see only mushrikeen worshipping people, messengers or man-made gods. As that is the seen shirk.
I agree with the above
But there are the mushriks who worship their own egos, following the example of Iblees. They set their own egos as their gods, but not always necessairly setting Iblees as their god.
Did I say ever that they set Iblis as a god?
Never, all I said they accepted his invitation and followed him, please sister, I?m very accurate in calculating what I say ?not in spelling though? so please be very accurate with me if you will discuss what I said, cheers
Iblees did not force the mushriks to associate him (Iblees) with Allah, not that he did not try to or did not work for it. But for human to blame it all on Ibless would be unfair, as they had the free will and choice. The same free will Iblees had/has. So to blame it all on Iblees would to the question If humans can blame, who can Iblees blame!?
I?m really sick and tired sister that you keep repeating that we blame Iblis, the Quran told us we can?r, so why you insist on that, it is the Quran that told us that Iblis is our enemy and he will do his best to flaw us, the Quran never said our ego will do as such, it is you who is saying so
That is what Iblees wants those mushriks to understand in JD .
Well Iblis said in this verse that he is kafir and he descrtibed them as mishrikoon, so where exactly you concluded that he is a mushrik?, also iblis never mentioned the ego in 1422
So Iblees in JD will disown those mushrikeen because he did not force them to worship him,
Well I never said they worshipped him, it is you who is saying as such, all I said that they obeyed him after accepting his invitation
nor worship their egos.
the verse never mentioned ego
They themselves, proudly, chose to do that, with him only misleading them all the way, of course, because he wants company in Jahannam.
of course he does that is why he invited them and they accepted it and followed it
good night sister
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Peace be upon you all,
Is the EMOTION of "hate" being associated with the Creator?
No such thing )
When the concept of "Love" is properly understood as the emotional response to ONENESS, then we understand that its opposite implies disconectedness. The evil doers are in a state of disconnection.
Love is not a thing where you pick a few people and say "I love you", it is the response to Oneness so a person would tyhen develop themselves as a loving person, not select certain associates to say " I love you", implying that all others are not loved.
We are not to succomb to any emotion to lead our path, only be at PEACE and respond with Love.
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Iblis himself can?t be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
Make up mind, did Iblis obey or disobey Allah?
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Peace all.Take it easy danish. group
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Peace Ahmed, All
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Seest thou such a one as taketh for his god his own passion (or impulse)? Couldst thou be a disposer of affairs for him?
And what made Iblees disobey Allah if it was not his pride and his fully blown ego. Iblees believed in himself more than he believed in Allah. When one believes in two gods, one can not obey both at the same time. Iblees obeyed his impulse to the extent of disobeying Allah. But he still believed in Allah as his God, beside his ego, his (Ana)/ his impulse (Hawa).
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Iblis himself cant be a Mushrik, because he never obeyed anyone else other than Allah, Iblis is ONLY a Kafir because he only disobeyed Allah but never associated partners with Allah by listening to them over the words of Allah.
Make up mind, did Iblis obey or disobey Allah?
How smart you are Mister Rumble
He did both
He obeyed first then disobeyed last
Haha
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Peace Ahmed, All
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Seest thou such a one as taketh for his god his own passion (or impulse)? Couldst thou be a disposer of affairs for him?
And what made Iblees disobey Allah if it was not his pride and his fully blown ego. Iblees believed in himself more than he believed in Allah. When one believes in two gods, one can not obey both at the same time. Iblees obeyed his impulse to the extent of disobeying Allah. But he still believed in Allah as his God, beside his ego, his (Ana)/ his impulse (Hawa).
Good darling
the verse above is talking about those who take other gods according to their own desires
the verse above never mentioned the ego, I challenge you to prove it
cheers sister