You follow G-d or a book?
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Sadiqi Stephene is convered to Judaism and thats the way they write God. He is a nice guy.
In fact, my friend - I was born jewish...
is writing g-d instead of God a sort of sense of humour or somethin?
please let me know so I laugh
Sadiqi Stephene is convered to Judaism and thats the way they write God. He is a nice guy.
is that how the jews write God?, I learn something new every day, i wonder if they believe in G-d as they claim
Salam
Oh yes, you're absolutely spot on! We have made fun of ourselves for the last 3000 years and we mock by some of us don't write the name of G-d. Can you believe what hilarious things we come up with and our believers still call themselves monotheists!? rotfl
One thing... When you write "sal?m" after the very sentence where you showed someone a severe lack of respect, do you feel seriously peaceful with that word, is it that you can hug someone like your brother having just spat on a person the very preceding moment? Does this make you feel proud and peaceful, not to mention "sal?m-ely" credible in the eyes of others? Just give it a thought, will you...
I wish all people could show each other as much love and understanding as you, Ahmed Baghat, show disrespect - then this world would be a beautiful one to live in.
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Jews call God G-d.
Some Christians insist on YHWH.
Recently some Indonesians started using 4JJI to write 'Allah' in emails, SMS, and internet posts. Probably in an attempt to differ from local Christians, who also use 'Allah' for God.
Just as long as we refer to the same entity.
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Oh yes, you're absolutely spot on! We have made fun of ourselves for the last 3000 years and we mock by some of us don't write the name of G-d.
don't worry, it is the case of every religion, so you believe in the O T?
Can you believe what hilarious things we come up with and our believers still call themselves monotheists!? rotfl
of course i do believe, it happened even in my religion
One thing... When you write "sal?m" after the very se
ntence where you showed someone a severe lack of respect, do you feel seriously peaceful with that word,of course not neither i mean peace to anyone that i have no problem with, Salam for me is a mere greating, it just happnes to have the same letters as peace
is it that you can hug someone like your brother having just spat on a person the very preceding moment?
why not?, everyone should be dealt accordingly, so I will spit on the perverts then i will hug my brother, but if my brother is a pervert then i will spit on him too,
Does this make you feel proud
it does
and peaceful,
no it does not
not to mention "sal?m-ely" credible in the eyes of others? Just give it a thought, will you...
i don't know what is sal?m-ely
I wish all people could show each other as much love and understanding as you, Ahmed Baghat, show disrespect
the above does not make sense, it means they too don't show respect, LOL because it was a wish on your behalf, thanks for the laugh
- then this world would be a beautiful one to live in.
oh yeh
Shalom
PS i don't mean peace, i only mean a mere greeting rifle
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la elaha ella Allah ...
Relax please all.
In regards to Christians calling God Allah, Allah is the Arabic word for God so Arabic speaking Christians, Muslims and Jews would use the word Allah. Although the more preferred term is RAB (Lord) for Arab Christians, which is also what we use so no difference. That's very interesting that Indonesian Christians use Allah as well! Perhaps they were converted by Arab Christian missionaries? Do you know? Just curiousInteresting also how Muslim Indonesians came up with that... that spells Allah in arabic in a weird way
El-Aziz I think I speak for all, even AhmedBahgat when I say all monotheists are most welcome to this website - so welcome. I think you two misunderstood each other somehow. start over lol
Peace -
Salam all
Indonesian Christians call GOD Allah, use the word 'Jema?t' for Congregation and 'al-Kitab' for the Bible. The Early Indonesian Christians were Converted by First ...The Portugeese , The Spanish , Dutch and English Colonialists and their Missionaries.
The Arab Merchants/ Refugees Gave Indonesia Sunnism and wahabism
Peace
almarh0m
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Salam almarhom
Thanks for that info ! So do you think the Indonesian Christians were converted from sunnism to christianity and hence kept some terminology? That's the only other explanation i could think of ... hmm interesting indeedcheck out the new smiley jedi lol
just felt like trying itPeace All
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Salam Soul
Prior to the Advent of Islam and Christianity, Indonesia ( as we know it now) were largely Hindus and Animists. The earliest Credible Record of Islam in the Archipelago was no more than 600 years old.....The Javenese People to this day still Use Sangskrete Names as The Indians eventhough they are Nominally Muslims.
You may be surprised to find Out that Qur?n/ God Alone Muslims in Indonesia Predated Rashad Khalifa and Free-Mind by a few Hundred Years. I never Knew about other Hadiths apart from the Qur?n. We have always Called the Qur?n Hadiths ( as one of the many names of The Qur?n). I became aware about The Other Hadiths in my Twenties......and the 5 Times a Day Salat were never Compulsory in our Community.
Cheers
almarh0m
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Salaam Almarh0m,
You may be surprised to find Out that Qur?n/ God Alone Muslims in Indonesia Predated Rashad Khalifa and Free-Mind by a few Hundred Years. I never Knew about other Hadiths apart from the Qur?n. We have always Called the Qur?n Hadiths ( as one of the many names of The Qur?n). I became aware about The Other Hadiths in my Twenties......and the 5 Times a Day Salat were never Compulsory in our Community.
Bro, komunitas Sunni mana yang gak mewajibkan shalat 5 waktu di Indo? Just curious. Soale hampir kemanapun gw pergi, selama itu komunitas Sunni, 5 waktu itu udah harga mati ;D
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Salam Adley
Ever been to South Sulawesi , and particularly the Old Kingdom of Gowa? There is Even a Big Municipality Populated Exlusively by People who called themselves Decendants of Nabi Muhammad.....the Place is called "Cikoang". My own family were neither Sunni nor Shia?h or Wahabi...We are Muslims but the 5 Times Salat is never regarded as Important But remeberance of God and his Law is Paramount. alcohol was never Haram for us , getting Drunk is... ;D
Indonesia is so Big bro, we can never learn everything about its people and I have been back there about 30 times It just go to show that , we can learn new things every day.
Salam and Cheers
almarh0m
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Salaam,
Wow! Thanks for this new info bro! And yes, I've never been to South Sulawesi. I've been in chats with a Muslim from Sulawesi in a mailing-list, but she never mentioned Cikoang and its unique atmosphere ;D So I just found about this today ;D
Learn new things everyday eh? Agree to that
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El-Aziz,
Anyone interested in the nature of G-d knows that the sensation thereof is a relative one and beyond something that a book can ever speak of. This is a phenomena that the Koran also denotes.
Could please clarify what you mean, with a verse or two? Thanks.My experience of the Lord is something I can write about whilst it is nearly impossible to mediate 100% this experience to someone else by may it be pictures, words, spoken language etc...
Agreed 100%. Your words or mine would have little or no effect to others when talking of experiences. The God's words however... )G-d has caused many great individuals to write about it, and to write about others who have had this experience. Though we can never fully grasp what G-d is but on our own. To comprehend others' vision is simply not to see it by yourself. Nor is to read a recipe never actually to eat the dish, or watching an image of a fruit is not actualy touching it.
Again, others have written in their own words, their experiences, and I have learnt a lot from such books, but as you point out, that is not to be confused with the experience itself.Seek G-d with the help of others, meet G-d yourself
Well said. This does, in no way, discount God's words though.Peace and blessing be upon you.
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Hello Zenje,
El-Aziz,
Anyone interested in the nature of G-d knows that the sensation thereof is a relative one and beyond something that a book can ever speak of. This is a phenomena that the Koran also denotes.
Could please clarify what you mean, with a verse or two? Thanks.My experience of the Lord is something I can write about whilst it is nearly impossible to mediate 100% this experience to someone else by may it be pictures, words, spoken language etc...
Agreed 100%. Your words or mine would have little or no effect to others when talking of experiences. The God's words however...G-d has caused many great individuals to write about it, and to write about others who have had this experience. Though we can never fully grasp what G-d is but on our own. To comprehend others' vision is simply not to see it by yourself. Nor is to read a recipe never actually to eat the dish, or watching an image of a fruit is not actualy touching it.
Again, others have written in their own words, their experiences, and I have learnt a lot from such books, but as you point out, that is not to be confused with the experience itself.Seek G-d with the help of others, meet G-d yourself
Well said. This does, in no way, discount God's words though.I'm not sure I understood any of your response to my post. If you want me to respond (which I gladely would like to), I would appreciate if you summarized your response instead of breaking it down into fragments.
Thanks in advantage!
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