A book about guidance from the All..........?
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S2SDanish, you're coming from a standpoint that has denied the many ayat that specifically state that this book was not made up by any man. And since the book doesn't conform to your definition of a well-written novel, you've decided it can't be from God. I sense an air of arrogance...
Exactly right. Danish is intoxicated by the great titles he encounters. His favourite phrase 'both islamic and western scholars' is something he's very sensitive about (he absolutely refuses scrunity of the phrase). This is his unquestionable authority, his god and anything which fails this criteria isn't worthy. Having said all this, that's his choice and his right.
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If a few people got together and wrote a book on guidance e.t.c. could be in a poetic lingo or not, could/would the book be considered from God.
If I wrote a book about relativity, pretty good math and thought experiments and all, would that book be considered from Einstein?
Peace,
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Br. mquran said
Al-quraan challenges you to do it (17/8 so what are you waiting for? Don't send us another load of dung, please.
of course no one can produce the Al-quraan /The call/ proclamation/ conveyance/ recital/ reading , i mean its like elvis in action or einsteins producing - simerlarly our blessed prophet in this case , this was something coming to him naturaly.
Don't you think it just means that other people cannot produce books or copy them and they can never produce the likeness of it just as no one can be elvis or einstein - so "NO ONE CAN HAVE THE RECITAL OF THE PROPHET - THE (NATURAL) FLOW"
Somethings are natural to some AND others can produce but never the likeness - its a gift -God gives some people.
to have it flow in a poetic way and so many examples after examples and naturally too.
God Bless.
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of course no one can produce the Al-quraan /The call/ proclamation/ conveyance/ recital/ reading , i mean its like elvis in action or einsteins producing - simerlarly our blessed prophet in this case , this was something coming to him naturaly.
Don't you think it just means that other people cannot produce books or copy them and they can never produce the likeness of it just as no one can be elvis or einstein - so "NO ONE CAN HAVE THE RECITAL OF THE PROPHET - THE (NATURAL) FLOW"
Somethings are natural to some AND others can produce but never the likeness - its a gift -God gives some people.
to have it flow in a poetic way and so many examples after examples and naturally too.Al-quraan talks about itself in itself. It calls itself 'guidance to humankind', 'a clarification of everything' etc etc. So when it says you cannot produce a like thereof, it's not talking about the Prophet flowing or singing. Indeed, it never talks about the 'first descent' anyway. That's between the Prophet and God, totally irrelevant to us.
The challenge is for someone to produce a discourse which talks about the human being, the ultimacies of the human being like AQ does. This is something philosophers do and no, I haven't seen anything come close to AQ in the matter. When a human writes a book about humanity, you can tell the difference. But of course, its only my opinion...
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of course no one can produce the Al-quraan /The call/ proclamation/ conveyance/ recital/ reading , i mean its like elvis in action or einsteins producing - simerlarly our blessed prophet in this case , this was something coming to him naturaly.
Don't you think it just means that other people cannot produce books or copy them and they can never produce the likeness of it just as no one can be elvis or einstein - so "NO ONE CAN HAVE THE RECITAL OF THE PROPHET - THE (NATURAL) FLOW"
Somethings are natural to some AND others can produce but never the likeness - its a gift -God gives some people.
to have it flow in a poetic way and so many examples after examples and naturally too.Al-quraan talks about itself in itself. It calls itself 'guidance to humankind', 'a clarification of everything' etc etc. So when it says you cannot produce a like thereof, it's not talking about the Prophet flowing or singing. Indeed, it never talks about the 'first descent' anyway. That's between the Prophet and God, totally irrelevant to us.
The challenge is for someone to produce a discourse which talks about the human being, the ultimacies of the human being like AQ does. This is something philosophers do and no, I haven't seen anything come close to AQ in the matter. When a human writes a book about humanity, you can tell the difference. But of course, its only my opinion...
of course i meant the material/discourse of the recital (but not the physical book - i think)
As Allah is the producer of the recital - i think ,it simply was recited by the nabi , he wasn't making it up or anything as these copy cats are trying to do that is make something similer.
The melody or the poetry and the material was composed - i think by Allah.
Again when we selct the best i think it is with Allah's help as the ayah said So another book can be written but depends on how much or in what way Allah will take it.
even , to me, a telephone book or a dictionary are with guidance from the all-mighty.
All knowledge is guidance from Allah.
Salaams.
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Peace bro Mohamed,
I posted on another thread, but welcome back, it's been a long time and it's good to see you posting!
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Peace simple and all. Im on holiday at the moment. I will respond to your post when im free.....If im banned in the meantimes by mods/admins,then contact me on my e-mail......Any body else who wants to discuss or contact me,feel free to do so.....
Happy truth hunting......... bravo handshake muscle -
Peace
Why would you be banned? Difference of opinion is accepted here, no worries enq.The whole karma thing is just for fun