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  • LaythL Offline
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    Layth
    wrote on last edited by
    #68

    Peace,

    If bond was capitalized Bond in all the occurances where it refered to the act of Salat (i.e. wudu, timing, etc.) would that resolve the issue of the reader understanding it as an act and not a general theme?

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      arnoldyasin
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      Peace,

      Hmmm, i still don't like the word 'bond'. But that would be an idea yeah...

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        adley
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        Salaam Layth,

        Will capitalizing make it just like a proper name (while it's not)? What do you think?

        =adley=

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          CavemanDoctor
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          Salaam Layth,

          Will capitalizing make it just like a proper name (while it's not)? What do you think?

          =adley=

          Yeah, it'd probably be better to italicize it, not capitalize. That way, the reader becomes aware this is something special and not just bond in the traditional generic sense. Perhaps, a footnote on the page the first "salat" appears would do well to explain the italicized bond.

          Peace.

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            Layth
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            Peace,

            Will capitalizing make it just like a proper name (while it's not)? What do you think?

            I am not an expert on the gramatics of English so I am not sure if it would be incorrect to capitlize and still retain the action aspect of the word...Would using italics be more correct? or would it add some confusion?

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              adley
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              Salaam Layth,

              I'm no expert either but usually capitalization is reserved for proper names (name of a person, of a building, of a book, etc). I don't think making it italized will cause confusion. Perhaps Caveman's idea is worth the shot.

              =adley=

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                Wakas
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                peace,

                I think having bond in italics could work, for the regular/timed slw.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  unknownuser
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                  peace

                  how about bold? It will stand out. And What I really like about Khalifa's translation was he'd put important arabic words in parentheses next to the translated word. For example

                  Contact Prayers (Salat)

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace All

                    My 2 cents I really love contact method. It is general enough to encompass all forms of salat yet not so general that it loses it's meaning in the context. bond just seems like an already heavily loaded word with too many pre-conceived notions, while contact method is a relatively newly coined term. I think only quran only folks actually ever heard of such a term before, and so it has less extra baggage than the word bond. Bond to my ears just sounds really generic and doesn't fit the description well enough in all instances. In my opinion, changing the font in any way won't really convey any stronger of a meaning or a different shade of meaning other than just simply 'bond'.

                    Peace

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                      Peace,

                      My 2 cents I really love contact method. It is general enough to encompass all forms of salat yet not so general that it loses it's meaning in the context. bond just seems like an already heavily loaded word with too many pre-conceived notions, while contact method is a relatively newly coined term. I think only quran only folks actually ever heard of such a term before, and so it has less extra baggage than the word bond. Bond to my ears just sounds really generic and doesn't fit the description well enough in all instances. In my opinion, changing the font in any way won't really convey any stronger of a meaning or a different shade of meaning other than just simply 'bond'.

                      It can be kept as contact-method, with the exception of the verses where it is refering to a bond/commitment (such as sura 9).

                      I believe the best way to resolve this issue is to run a poll.

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                        unknownuser
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                        I believe the best way to resolve this issue is to run a poll.

                        Wow that would be perfect ! Excellent idea

                        I think it would be nice for us to see where we all stand on this with a quick number

                        God Bless you all

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                          unknownuser
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                          Salaam Layth

                          I can see that you have some Qur'aanic Arabic knowledge. My question for you Layth is are you fluent in Qur'aanic Arabic?

                          Salaam

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