Did God create all humankind from Adam ?
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Brotyher JM
Bro
without going through all the above mostely manipulation, I want to pick on one clear cut manipulation by you and show everyone how the Quran will slam dank it
You say
For me, this sentence means
"he has created you from a single soul , and he has created, of the same nature as her (this soul) her mate".
Or
"he has created you from a single soul , and he has created, of like nature, his mate".Ahmed says
I?m really glad that it is for you as many will recognise its flaw, let me confirm it
You added many words that does not exist in the verse
You added ?of the same nature as her? as = ?Minha?, while it can only mean ?Zawjiha? metaphorically, it seems you are confused here bro
We have two words
Minha, means ?from her?
Zawjiha means ?her mate?
I don?t know why you are mixing the two?
However let me surprise you sir and prove your Arabic ignorance
?of the same nature as her? or ?of like nature? does not really mean Zawjiha rather it means in Arabic ?Mithlaha? it looks in Arabic like this ? ? for feminine, ? ? ?Mithlahu? for masculine, and ? ?, for plural
there are many examples in the Quran what I brought to you are the ones that are associated with the creation, i.e. we will see the two words together ?khalaqa Mithla?, i.e. create of the same nature
Do they not consider that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth, is able to create their like, and He has appointed for them a doom about which there is no doubt? But the unjust do not consent to aught but denying.
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Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth able to create the like of them? Yea! and He is the Creator (of all), the Knower
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The like of which were not created in the (other) cities;
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See, in the all the above we read that ?Create of the same nature? means ?Khlaqa Mithla?
Do we read this in 41?,
Of course not, we only read ?Khalqa Minha?
O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord Who created you from a single soul and from it created its mate and from them twain hath spread abroad a multitude of men and women. Be careful of your duty toward Allah in Whom ye claim (your rights) of one another, and toward the wombs (that bare you). Lo! Allah hath been a watcher over you.
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It is obvious to the naked eye how you manipulated 41 and I have to tell you bro, Itqi Allah
Salam
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Peace Ahmed,
"in the same nature", or "of the same kind" is one of the possible translations of the adverb min.
Anyway, the fact is that all you, me, or any human being, have been created from a single nafs, as well as our mate.
This single nafs is more likely to be the very essence of the human being, rather than Adam.Peace
See Amina Wadud, Qur'an and Woman Rereading the Sacred Text from a Woman's Perspective, page 18.
Excerpt
Min primarily has 2 functions in Arabic. It can be used for the English preposition ?from? to imply an extraction of a thing from other things. It can also be used to imply ?in the same nature as?.You can read it online here http//www.amazon.fr/gp/reader/0195128362/ref=sib_dp_pt/171-9653627-5785045#reader-page
Obviously, Yusuf Ali and Shakir had knowledge of this possible meaning of min
(Yusuf Ali) O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence Allah, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights), and (reverence) the wombs (That bore you) for Allah ever watches over you.
(Shakir) O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.
See also http//www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=491®ion=E1&CR=
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Peace,
JM, in Quantumphysics some refer to it as the Quantum conciousness, see
http//www.quantumconsciousness.org/
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Peace folks,
Question bro JM, are you a student or doctor researching dna, cloning, origin, etc, etc.? I mean what will you gain, whats the purpose of discussing anything which doesnt matter today.
Finally if you are trying to eat the biggest fish. Then I must tell you AB is not a fish in the Ocean, AB is the Ocean. And what do they say on national geographic; Think Again!
yeah Tihnk Aiagn!
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Peace,
JM, in Quantumphysics some refer to it as the Quantum conciousness, see
http//www.quantumconsciousness.org/
Could you expatiate ?
I don't understand why you are referring to such complicated notions.
Perhaps I were unclear ?Peace
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They call it the One conciousness, the universe is one conciousness and our conciousness is formed out of that conciousness. Everything in creation carries a little bit of that conciousness with them, even molecules. This conciousness gives them there form and function. When i read the above verse, i read this
(Shakir) O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you(your Nafs) from a single Conciousness(the Quantum Conciousness) and created its mate of the same (kind)(other Nafs) and spread from these two(2 kinds of Nafs), many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.
Peace
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They call it the One conciousness, the universe is one conciousness and our conciousness is formed out of that conciousness. Everything in creation carries a little bit of that conciousness with them, even molecules. This conciousness gives them there form and function. When i read the above verse, i read this
(Shakir) O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you(your Nafs) from a single Conciousness(the Quantum Conciousness) and created its mate of the same (kind)(other Nafs) and spread from these two(2 kinds of Nafs), many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.
Peace
OK, I understand now.
But this is not exactly my interpretation.Peace
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Peace,
But it is mine.. )
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Peace be upon yuo ArnoldYasin,
and was influenced by the Isis-cult who believed Isis was a virgin given birth to Horus.
Just to clarify this story (because it is just as corrupted as this message has become), the original story was NEVER taken literal. Heru (greeks call horus) represented the WILL. The WILL is what is missing in the majority of mankind. They are BLIND FOLLOWERS (i.e. why do you follow what your father followed?). They follow the WILL of others, instead of using thier own WILL. When you dont use your WILL you follow desire/emotion.
Picture this, you are standing at a crossraod trying to decide if you should go left or right, all of a sudden someone comes up and PUSHES you to the left. That is what your emotions do, they PUSH you in a certain direction. When you do something based on like and dislike, that is not choosing, that is not WILLING. If you are trying to quit smoking and you are at a gathering where you just ate a good meal and all the cigarrette smokers are now getting ready to light up, your emotions are PUSHING you to smoke. If you do not smoke, THAT is willing, because there is no energy pushing you not to smoke.
So the point is that Heru(horus) is your WILL. Auset (Isis) is your faculty of TRANCE, which is the means by which all conditionings are aquired in your life. Auset, when devoted to the ressurection of Ausar(Osirus) - The God within-, gives birth to the WILL. This is to say that when all your thoughts and actions are directed towards purifying your NAFS, your will is born. It is a "virgin" birth because no other is needed except the God's Word.
And so the story continued through many traditions.
Regarding Adam, that is the human intellect. The part of your subconsious that gives verbal expression to your thoughts. No the first human being. Remember this is not a fabricated history, this is guidance for human behavior.
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Peace,
Yes, Idolfree, i believe Adam stands for the first peoples and the whole of humanity. As for the Isis-cult. In Greece, it became something different then from the Egyptian theology. I was refering to the Greek cult, not the Egyptian cult. If you look at the statues and pictures of Isis with Horus and compare them with Mary and Jesus in the catholic church, you will see they are the same.