FREE MINDS or FIRON MINDS
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IN SUPPORT OF AHMED BAGHAT I VIL RESIGN AND APPEAL ALL FELLOW MEMBERS TO DO THE SAME. IF AB IS NOT UNBANNED WITHIN 48 HOURS, I WILL DELETE MY ACCOUNT.
Hello Marlboro, are you condoning AB's actions? The very actions that caused him to be banned for 7 days? Sorry Marlboro, I do not condone rudeness and disrespect, and I will not heed your call for others to resign.
If you want to delete your account, it's up to you. Nobody can stop you.
cheers
I second this.
Salaams.
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IN SUPPORT OF AHMED BAGHAT I VIL RESIGN AND APPEAL ALL FELLOW MEMBERS TO DO THE SAME. IF AB IS NOT UNBANNED WITHIN 48 HOURS, I WILL DELETE MY ACCOUNT.
Hello Marlboro, are you condoning AB's actions? The very actions that caused him to be banned for 7 days? Sorry Marlboro, I do not condone rudeness and disrespect, and I will not heed your call for others to resign.
If you want to delete your account, it's up to you. Nobody can stop you.
cheers
I second this.
Salaams.
I second this too, but I think whoever is rude or disrespectful should be banned a few days too.
Peace
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Peace all
What is the big deal? I auto-banned myself for over a week by deleting my account, I found that therapeutic to let off steam
My opinion is again that we should take it easy.
For me when I am in a state of Belief (which is not always all the time), things take a very easy and soothing perspective, a cosmic one, The God is the Ultimate Arbiter, so fooling ourself into thinking that forceful arguments are going to really change anything only because they are forceful is living in flagrant denial with what The God's Plan is all about. Did not He admonish the Prophet that He was the one who guided and that the Prophet could not guide whom he loved, if The God did not will so?
Let us take it easy, and stop responding to personal criticisms with further more acid criticisms... It is bad for health and well being
The tragedy of human kind is that we like to be right, even when we are blatantly wrong, and attacking people's character is mean and unproductive...
By the way participation in the forum is a privilege and not a right, so mods and admins can do basically what they want, this is how the Web works...
Salam
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Peace folks,
Some say no, some say it is rule for mistakes and some that the rules must become more stricter and some must know what is what. I had a discussion with Ahmed this afternoon and he convinced me not to quit for reason the issue doesnt concerns me and and he will be coming back soon to this forum.
I have learned alot from this place and it takes alot of energy/time to properly understand anyones post. To understand any quote from Arnld I hv to read alot on the net and I do same for Ahmed, I hv to read alot of quran and reconfirm his quoted verses before accepting or rejecting any views.
I dont have personal sympthy with anyone but some do. Whereas I stand with most who wants to ponder truth, fewsome dont. It appears some folks are here to waste other ppls time and offcourse their own too, only if they understand.
Finally I am not quiting but will be away for quite sometime. Hope when I return this place will be as good as it use to be and I will learn more.
Peace be with you all.
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What keeps me going about other people's ranting and panting is that The Creator does not need us and we need Him.
I didn't quite understand your statement above. Can you please elaborate a little?
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Easy folks. How do i need the creator? And i think he does need me because he is always asking me to help his deen and worship him?....Go figure... ;D ??? >
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Peace upon you Danish and enquirer,
Why do we need a creator?
If you think that you are "some creatures" then surely you need a creator that have made you, it is as simple as that.
But if you think that you are not "a creature", then you don't even exist to have this conversation. If you nullify the existance of a creator, you nullify by the same token your own existance.
You may ask, "why only one creator?", if you think there are more than one, just tell me to which one you belong.
To make things easier for you to recognise your creator, just remember the one to whom you asked for help when you were in danger of death, when it seemed that nobody could help you, and asked for his help as the ultimate resort. Has he not answered your call? Would you answer his?
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Sorry I do not wish to engage you, I meant panting and raving, or was it raving and ranting, must be these damn pills I am taking ...
Then you should stop making "noble" statements coming out of those damn pills you are taking.
Some have issues with God, take them with Him, I am only human
As per your statement, if Quran is Allah's words, then take the entire matter to "HIM"; why bother speaking on behalf of HIM? You make statements that you can't support and when confronted, you start making excuses.....oh, I am only human, take the issues with God, huh!
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Danish,
What happened to you? Have you been gang abused (hard) by a bunch of mullahs when u were young, that might explain your persistent touchiness on the matters.
I have nothing to say to you.
If you feel victimised, go and drama queen with someone else.
I value my comfort, and arguing with you is useless and senseless... -
Danish,
What happened to you? Have you been gang abused (hard) by a bunch of mullahs when u were young, that might explain your persistent touchiness on the matters.
I have nothing to say to you.
If you feel victimised, go and drama queen with someone else.
I value my comfort, and arguing with you is useless and senseless...Chill out man and stop taking "noble" pills that doesn't do you any good. ??? If you hesitate to engage with me, then politely say so without making other provocative statements.
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Danish, are you placating now?
I did not like the way you abused some of the Sisters here.
Plus I do not seem to like you, after reading your posts which I found fatuous and arrogant.
You tried to initiate a dialogue with me starting with silly assumptions.
If you hate Al-Islam so much why are you here, go away!
It is my right to ask you to leave me alone, or I will take the matter with the Admins...
Have a pleasant day...
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Danish, are you placating now?
I did not like the way you abused some of the Sisters here.
Plus I do not seem to like you, after reading your posts which I found fatuous and arrogant.
You tried to initiate a dialogue with me starting with silly assumptions.
If you hate Al-Islam so much why are you here, go away!
It is my right to ask you to leave me alone, or I will take the matter with the Admins...
Have a pleasant day...
NobleI'm requesting you one last time. If you do not wish to engage with me then say so POLITELY without provocations. This is a public forum and not dedicated to your sole self. Do you understand this simple notion? Mods/admins and other members are realizing where this discussion is heading towards which you seem to infest once again. The following was my first post addressed to you earlier and notice your "noble" responses above
What keeps me going about other people's ranting and panting is that The Creator does not need us and we need Him.
I didn't quite understand your statement above. Can you please elaborate a little?
Over and out.
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Easy someone. If every 'creature' needs a 'creator' then who created the creature that is supposedly the creator!!!
And there are many,many 'creators',everbody who has a child is a creator,as are artists,musicians and architechts...
To me the presence of creatures implies creatures/creators before us (ie cause and effect.) not one all-mighty creator...
ps; when there are mutations,cancers,destructive diseases,harmful genes and such like,is this the work of one perfect,all-merciful creator??? -
Easy someone.
Is it a new way to greet people? what does it mean? or is it just to appear like a "cool guy"
If every 'creature' needs a 'creator' then who created the creature that is supposedly the creator!!!
He is uncreated, he was always, he will always be; He is everlasting.
And there are many,many 'creators',everbody who has a child is a creator,as are artists,musicians and architechts...
To me the presence of creatures implies creatures/creators before us (ie cause and effect.) not one all-mighty creator...These are not creators, it is just an abuse of language.
Creator refers to an entity making something out of nothing. These people can be described as makers, they are making things using other existhing things that they have not created in the first place. To make a child, one would need a testicule and an ovule first.
PSIn the language of the scripture, "the creator" is "ar-rahmane", no where in the scripture does this word ever refer to anyone other than the god.
On the other hand, "maker" is "khaliq", there are many, and the god is described as the best maker.