Muslim women Marrying Non-Muslims

phoenix1

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My 1st post
What in the world is a "non-muslim?"
You can guess about whether a person is actually good by their actions. If their actions are genuinly good, then they are followers of God. If they aren't good people, then there's no point in marrying them (unless they are very very old and very very rich).

My reply to Boost
what does "submitter to God" mean, exactly? and what exactly is god?
I think if a person is a good person. He/she does good things for the right reasons, then he/she is a submitter to God.
Because what are the attributes of god mentioned in the quran? I think if a person displays those attributes, then he is serving god, isn't he?

warner

Peace be on you

I am not an expert to answer your question but I will try since this might lead to a discussion with many opinions from others.

I think believing that there is One God is not enough. A person has to believe in Allah as described in the Quraan. Personally I have not come across any other book which gives such a detailed and undiluted description of a Supreme God. The bible description we can not take because of the partnership issue among other things.

Although too numerous to quote we find many verses describing Allah directly and indirectly,

He is Allah the One, eternal absolute ?.

He is Allah Almighty Merciful

Lord of the Alamin

The creator, knower, the wise..

So if anyone believes in One God who does not have all this attributes to Him as described in the Quraan that does not describe ?The God?.

Another important factor is how did this hypothetical man you met come to conclude that there is One God ?

zubairh

Hmmm im unsure on this one. We all know you are not allowed to marry pagans (unless you have no one else). Christians jews muslims, ok. Though whatever happens, children must be muslim in every case.

Heres where it involves your situation. You are a muslim WOMAN. the Quran forbids muslim WOMEN from marrying non muslim men, even christians/jews. This was because In the old times, Men usually had more authority over the family (not in that sense). Usually, what the man was, the children became. THe woman was a passive spouse. So the children wouldnt become the religion of the mother, usually. Today, is different. So I would say, if children are muslim, its ok. Allah/ god knows best.

Samia

the Quran forbids muslim WOMEN from marrying non muslim men,

Please quote the vrse that says so.

children must be muslim in every case.

Also, where did you get that from? Do you want to say muslim parents' children become automatically muslims, even if they change their religion, or know nothing about Islam? Is Islam a "nationality" or a gene to be inherited?

Dion

We have to DEFINE "Muslim", in order to know wether we can or cannot marry "Non Muslims'.

TheNabi

Peace

Being muslim to me is something you do and choose. People cannot make you as such nor are you one simply because you take some initiations.

Joe

Alen

We have to DEFINE "Muslim", in order to know wether we can or cannot marry "Non Muslims'.

Salam.

Exactly, that's what i have been saying all the time here.
Muslim is a person who does this and that and then we eliminate what muslim isn't then we have all the muslims in frobnt of us and then we choose who to marry.

For example, in Slovenia, there are 47.000 Muslims. All sunnis. But they don't pray, fast, The Quran is there to just collect dust and some don't even know they're sunnis, get it?

So.

Now we have to find all the Muslims who follow just The Quran.
In Slovenia, there are only 2 of them out of 47.000.
You do the math.

Peace.

unknownuser

So you have 'judged' 46,998 people alen?

Alen

So you have 'judged' 46,998 people alen? o

Salam.

I'm not judging them.
I feel sad that they won't study The Quran by themselves but they rather say"Let's ask the imam."

These sunnis could be all The Quran Alone Muslim if only they started reading The Quran on their own but i think the communism has washed their brains really good, sadly, yes, and who is gonna fix this problem here, who will tell them that they must not replace the prayer with work, fasting with alcohol and cigarettes, who will tell them that giving a child a muslim name will make sure this child enters the Paradise?
Who?
Who will convincve them?
Who can?

If The Allah Almighty wanted them to follow The Quran alone, He Almighty would've done that. Allah Almighty only says"Be!" and it is.

I'm not judging my countrymen, i'm just saying they should study more and on their own. They earn money easy and i'm sure they could read The Quran a little more.

I 'm not a judge, i'm an observer.
What i see here.....scares me.

Peace.

FJ

Salam.

Exactly, that's what i have been saying all the time here.
Muslim is a person who does this and that and then we eliminate what muslim isn't then we have all the muslims in frobnt of us and then we choose who to marry.

For example, in Slovenia, there are 47.000 Muslims. All sunnis. But they don't pray, fast, The Quran is there to just collect dust and some don't even know they're sunnis, get it?

So.

Now we have to find all the Muslims who follow just The Quran.
In Slovenia, there are only 2 of them out of 47.000.
You do the math.

Peace.

We choose who to marry??????

It sounds like there is a point someone has to reach to earn the right to choose which one to marry and is this reserved to males only???
Common Alen, what if the one you choose is the choice someone else wants and what if the one chosen does not like you but already likes and loves someone else??? Are you going to fight then? And the other things is that just because you see a person doing this and that that does not result in him/her being a muslim. Moreover, you cannot judge which one is muslim and which is not. This is reserved to God alone as far as I know.
Hope I got everything right

Peace brothers and sisters
FJ

Alen

We choose who to marry??????
It sounds like there is a point someone has to reach to earn the right to choose which one to marry and is this reserved to males only???
Common Alen, what if the one you choose is the choice someone else wants and what if the one chosen does not like you but already likes and loves someone else??? Are you going to fight then? And the other things is that just because you see a person doing this and that that does not result in him/her being a muslim. Moreover, you cannot judge which one is muslim and which is not. This is reserved to God alone as far as I know.
Hope I got everything right
Peace brothers and sisters
FJ

Salam.

You misunderstood.
I didn't say anything about anyone being reserved.
All i'm saiyng is that today you can recognize the People of The Book, you can recognize the sunnis, you can even recognize atheists.
Then you decide who to marry, women choose their future husbands just like men choose their future wives.
How do you choose?
You observe the world around yourself.

You asked" what if the one you choose is the choice someone else wants and what if the one chosen does not like you but already likes and loves someone else???"

Well, this has happened to me and i'm sure it happened to plenty of others. One thing is for sure there are more women then men, on Earth at all times, especially in the post war time, and that means that we, men, can never run out of women or say that we cannot find a soulmate, that's just .... illogical.
If all men got married today, there would still be single women out there.

No offence to the ladies.
Hope i didn't offend anyone.

Salam.

zubairh

Peace

Being muslim to me is something you do and choose. People cannot make you as such nor are you one simply because you take some initiations.

Joe

I agree, but don't you think children should be raised muslims until they can decide for themselves? Then that brings up the question, when is the right time for them to make their decisions. Ugh brickwall