Marriage and muslim women?
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Salamz all,
I just finished reading your hallal and haram section on marriage, and i was wondering out of curiosity, since it is not mentioned on ur website- Is it thus by default, acceptable for a Muslim women to marry a non-muslim man, who is not an idolizer, but is monothistic in a sense
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Salamz all,
I just finished reading your hallal and haram section on marriage, and i was wondering out of curiosity, since it is not mentioned on ur website- Is it thus by default, acceptable for a Muslim women to marry a non-muslim man, who is not an idolizer, but is monothistic in a sensePeace,
Respectfully.welcome welcome to the forum, dear sister.
To answer your question
55 Today, the good things have been made lawful to you, and the food of those who have been given the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them; and the protected from the believing women, and the protected from the people of the Scripture before you, if you have given them their dowries, protected, chaste, and not seeking to take lovers. And whoever rejects belief, then his work has fallen, and in the Hereafter he is of the losers.
God bless you.
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Salam sanita. Implied in your post is that you are a Muslim contemplating marriage with a non Muslim.
Allah has established a had/limit, that a wife is to obey her husband. How will a Muslim woman comply with the had, if her husband demands that she not comply with the had?
For example, if a Muslim woman gets up to make salat ul fajr, and her non Muslim husband tells her to make coffee. Which had of Allah should she violate? Should she make salat and disobey her husband, or should she make coffee and disobey Allah. In either case she is disobeying Allah.
You may think, oh he will allow me to practice my faith, yes, in the good times. However, in the bad times, he may in anger cause you to violate the hudood. The nikah must work in the good times and the bad, it cannot work only in the good times.
This is a simple reply, the more complicated response derives from a correct analysis of surah Al Nur. I am analyzing this surah at the moment, and find the translations have problems. The problem centers around the word zan and adultery. I will post an accurate rendition of the surah later. My preliminary understanding of this verse is that a momin can only marry a momin.
Allah has eatablished the hudood.
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Salam sanita. The category of person you describe, "non-muslim, non idolater, monotheistic in a sense" is not found in the Quran. Secondly, "marriage" is not found in the Quran. What is found in the Quran is Nikah for believers. The closest I can come to the category you describe is found in surah Al Nur.
Allah begins by saying, 241 This chapter is sent on you obligatory on you and in it are verses between what is said to you. 242 The prostitute and the prostitutee lash all of them one hundred lashes and do not let compassion move you in the faith of Allah in a matter prescribed by Allah if you believe in Allah and the final day and witness the destruction a party of the believers. 243 The prostitutee cannot nikah except a prostitute or an associatress, and a prostitute cannot be nikah except to a prostitutee or an associator. And these limits are on the momins.
The use of the word farzanaha in the preamble to this surah is critical to comprehend the purpose of the surah. Farzahana means obligatory upon you. Obligatory means you have no choice in the matter, you are required to comply with the this surah regardless. I examined the word alzanitu and alzani, and find there is no Arabic root to these words, nor is there a Hebrew root to these words. however, there is an Aramaic root to these words. The Aramaic word is identical, and they mean prostitute and prostitutee. What Allah has to say next is that if there is a Muslim who associates anything with Allah, the momin is prohibited from a nikah with that person. Clearly Allah has categorized association along with prostitution. Allah has also absolutely prohibited a momim from a nikah with a person who has been with a prostitute, or a person who associates anything with Allah.
If you are a momin, and associate nothing with Allah, and have not engaged in prostitution; until a man associates nothing with Allah, or if he has been a prostitutee, his nikah with you is prohibited.
Allah is the one who accepts repentance and is merciful.
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Salamz all,
I just finished reading your hallal and haram section on marriage, and i was wondering out of curiosity, since it is not mentioned on ur website- Is it thus by default, acceptable for a Muslim women to marry a non-muslim man, who is not an idolizer, but is monothistic in a sense
Salams Sanita,
I think all the teachings in the Quran are reversable unless it's specifically stated otherwise. Having said that, it's always important to know what your fiance expects of your relationship, religiously speaking, and that it is compatable with your personal faith.
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The Quran does not forbid Muslim women from marriage with "men of the Book". It states that men are allowed to marry "women of the book", but it does not mention women at all, which implies that it is not necessarily forbidden (perhaps discouraged), because when something is forbidden God mentions it explicitly.
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Salamz all,
I just finished reading your hallal and haram section on marriage, and i was wondering out of curiosity, since it is not mentioned on ur website- Is it thus by default, acceptable for a Muslim women to marry a non-muslim man, who is not an idolizer, but is monothistic in a sense
I hope so.
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Salam sanita. Implied in your post is that you are a Muslim contemplating marriage with a non Muslim.
Allah has established a had/limit, that a wife is to obey her husband. How will a Muslim woman comply with the had, if her husband demands that she not comply with the had?
For example, if a Muslim woman gets up to make salat ul fajr, and her non Muslim husband tells her to make coffee. Which had of Allah should she violate? Should she make salat and disobey her husband, or should she make coffee and disobey Allah. In either case she is disobeying Allah.
With mutual consultations,does a wife fix a problem,like that.He wait,untill she is finished.The man you are talking about here,a tyrant,should not have a wife.
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The Quran does not forbid Muslim women from marriage with "men of the Book". It states that men are allowed to marry "women of the book", but it does not mention women at all, which implies that it is not necessarily forbidden (perhaps discouraged), because when something is forbidden God mentions it explicitly.
Peace,
Respectfully.I agree, good point.
God bless you.Peace.
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Allah has established a had/limit, that a wife is to obey her husband.
Quranic evidence?
With mutual consultations,does a wife fix a problem,like that.He wait,untill she is finished.The man you are talking about here,a tyrant,should not have a wife.
bravo
I have a solution He can make his own coffee. Problem solved!
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Al Araf
That's a bit ridiculous
Give me your evidence that Allah has established a hadd that a women must obey her husband? What?s the husband?s job? to boss the wife around?
So a person must never turn down any sort of offer otherwise that makes one a sinner. Sorry! the wife a sinner because you?re implicated the husband shouldn?t listen to the wife. Damn image she?s in the toilet and the husband commands her to make a coffee goodness, she?s going to hell people for being disobedient. Great logic mate. Seriously that?s silly, this almost sounds like sunnis. Normal people in normal relationships would listen to one another and compromise.
Things can screw up in good times and bad times even with ?momin?. People are human remember.
Something i noticed in the sunni world. Men who earn an income think they?re greater and worthy of obedience simply because they?re earning money.
Share your knowledge of hadood.
BTW i don?t entirely disagree, people mesh better with people who have similar focuses. Otherwise some might have hopeful intentions of 'one day they'll change' people have different criteria's depends what they go by.
Sanita
monotheistic in a sense? I'll quote the Irish on this one and say be sure, be sure, be sure, be sure and in case you didn't notice, be sure!some things to keep in mind
- do you want to have children, if so how do you want to raise them and is there mutual agreement.
- does the other have full awareness of your belief
- are you prepared to live the rest of your life with them, as they are (can't expect them to change)
Salam
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Al Araf
That's a bit ridiculous
Give me your evidence that Allah has established a hadd that a women must obey her husband? What?s the husband?s job? to boss the wife around?
So a person must never turn down any sort of offer otherwise that makes one a sinner. Sorry! the wife a sinner because you?re implicated the husband shouldn?t listen to the wife. Damn image she?s in the toilet and the husband commands her to make a coffee goodness, she?s going to hell people for being disobedient. Great logic mate. Seriously that?s silly, this almost sounds like sunnis. Normal people in normal relationships would listen to one another and compromise.
Things can screw up in good times and bad times even with ?momin?. People are human remember.
Something i noticed in the sunni world. Men who earn an income think they?re greater and worthy of obedience simply because they?re earning money.
Share your knowledge of hadood.
BTW i don?t entirely disagree, people mesh better with people who have similar focuses. Otherwise some might have hopeful intentions of 'one day they'll change' people have different criteria's depends what they go by.
Sanita
monotheistic in a sense? I'll quote the Irish on this one and say be sure, be sure, be sure, be sure and in case you didn't notice, be sure!some things to keep in mind
- do you want to have children, if so how do you want to raise them and is there mutual agreement.
- does the other have full awareness of your belief
- are you prepared to live the rest of your life with them, as they are (can't expect them to change)
Salam
Peace ;
You are right.
The things can go vice versa.
The woman can go out to earn and run the house ,the husband should stay at home to
1 look after children/house
2Cook for the wife
Of course it seems ideal situation.
Regards -
Peace ;
You are right.
The things can go vice versa.
The woman can go out to earn and run the house ,the husband should stay at home to
1 look after children/house
2Cook for the wife
Of course it seems ideal situation.
RegardsI don't see a problem with that. Equality is the thing.
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No such thing as equality, well there is but I reckon people drum it in too much.
People take on different roles, no biggie. What those roles are would depend on each relationship. people agree on different things, some might even rotate.
most women work nowadays yet men still expect wonder women, good luck guys! Some men can cook and prefer cooking, some don't. even some couples don't even cook for themselves! they got inlaws/family, restaurant food bla bla bla.
Everyone's mind is blocked on tradition i think
BTW not all people have children in a relationship, it's funny how people think.
I'd think if you cook, you cook for yourself and others. the way people put it is like a chore "cook for the wife".
I would have been very happy if I am allowed to stay at home and my wife goes out to earn. It will be an ideal situation for me.
Regardsyou lazy... haha kidding
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No such thing as equality, well there is but I reckon people drum it in too much.
People take on different roles, no biggie. What those roles are would depend on each relationship. people agree on different things, some might even rotate.
most women work nowadays yet men still expect wonder women, good luck guys! Some men can cook and prefer cooking, some don't. even some couples don't even cook for themselves! they got inlaws/family, restaurant food bla bla bla.
Everyone's mind is blocked on tradition i think P
BTW not all people have children in a relationship, it's funny how people think.
I'd think if you cook, you cook for yourself and others. the way people put it is like a chore "cook for the wife".
you lazy... haha kidding
peace
BTW what you suggest for a family
Husband + wife + two kidsSituation - A
Husband should go out for earning to run the house.
Wife should stay at home looking after the house and childrenSituation - B
Wife should go out for earning to run the house.
Husband should stay at home looking after the house and childrenWe are not talking about exceptional cases
Regards
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Dude I can?t give you a straight answer, every relationship differs there are too many variables and i ain?t talking exceptional cases. Ideally set roles have stability however they can still differ. They don?t have to be as concrete as ?you stay home cook clean, I work and make money?.