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Muhammad is a White Man?

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    Al_Khidr
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    peace be upon you,

    the color of people doesn't matter. however, you are free to believe whatever you wish. all we know is that Adam was a black man.

    Salaam

    You may be interested in checking out this video, it also confirms what you have said and the scientific evidence in the Qur'aan pertaining to the original man (Adam)

    Special DNA Mysteries The Search For Adam
    http//www.guba.com/watch/3000114671

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      huruf
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      There is a great Spanish humor writer who said

      Adam was black, Eve was white, between them they bred a grey humanity.

      I think that is about right.

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        jankren
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        are you saying that all slaves ever bought to Europeans were sold to hem by Arabs? Are you saying that all slaves sold by Arabs were African and of no other origin? How much material if any do you have to support that?

        Before the Europeans managed to colonize Africa, most of their initial dealings in the slave trade were done with Jewish and Arab slave merchants. This is a fact.

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          huruf
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          Before the Europeans managed to colonize Africa, most of their initial dealings in the slave trade were done with Jewish and Arab slave merchants. This is a fact.

          That again is a very wide and and elastic statement which does not convey any real information or data.

          On the other hand it is well known that slaves in the Muslim empires were of any colour or race, not particularly blacks or Africans.

          Salaam

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            jankren
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            That again is a very wide and and elastic statement which does not convey any real information or data.

            On the other hand it is well known that slaves in the Muslim empires were of any colour or race, not particularly blacks or Africans.

            Salaam

            Nobody is talking about slaves in Muslim Empires. I was talking about the fact that Arab slave merchants were the ones who initially sold African slaves to Europeans. Duh!

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              Ahmad_Bilal
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              Peace Al Khidr,

              When the Pale Arab (who are European descendants) conquered Africa, East Africa (Saudi Arabia), once they obtained power, they began to re-write HIS-STORY through their fabrications of HADIYTH. They have changed the image of Prophet Muhammad and turned him into a white man, thus they have wrote tons of hadiyth actually stating that Prophet Muhammad is a white man. But, however, does this stand up to Qur'aanic evidence? I would like to announce a new site targeting this racism, that is very well hidden and disguised under Al Islaam. This website not only set's the record straight on this subject matter but it will also answer the constant question as to why Allah never sent a European Prophet. If you want the Cold Naked Truth visit the link below

              http//kushite.webs.com

              Wow... That website was truly an eye-opener. I'd heard claims from others regarding the complexions of the prophets, and I've even read some fabricated writings concerning some of the prophets being white. However, this is the first time I heard that accusation pointed at Mohammed. The website and videos were very informative. Thanks, and GOD bless...

              Peace,

              Ahmad

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                Peace,

                Europeans recieved African slaves from other Africans mainly. The Congo Empires and the Empires of Songhay, Togo, Dahomey, Benin and others. The people these empires captured in their expansions they sold to Europeans for guns and other goods. This trade got out of hand and bled these very African empires of their populations. They hence collapsed and that led the way to European colonization. It was not because of superior European technology. That is a myth. The Arabs did not participate in the trade of Africans to Europe in any substantial way. In East Africa and north Africa they actually bought slaves from other Africans to take to Arabia and other Arab territories. Arabs in Egypt also recieved slaves as tribute from Nubia. But it is true that Arabs DID not in any way exlusively recieve African slaves but they recieved slaves from Europe, Asia, Russia, the Indian Subcontinent and enslaved other Arabs as well.

                Check out this guy's videos to get the info on these little known facts about West African empires

                http//www.youtube.com/user/markellion

                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEqqmmY6bLo

                And if Al-khidr implies that pale Arabs are mainly the descendents of Caucasians from the north (they are actually mixed between the Native blacks of Arabia (like the Mehra) and the Caucasians from the North. The paler, the more the caucasian ancestry) I agree.

                Check out the remaining NATIVE Black Arabs of Yemen (the Mahra)

                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeJFoK9jWLs

                They are also in Oman and Saudi Arabia.

                And discrimation against Black Arabs in Arab countries is a fact. Check out his video by an Arab guy on youtube.

                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsXVRmahwko

                Godbless,
                Anwar

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                  Assalaam Alaikum

                  Cheikh Anta Diop?s final refutation and reply to Chancellor Williams, Ben Jochannan?s, and Dr. Henri Clarke?s talk of ?slave-mongering?, ?invading?, ?armed hordes? of Arabs swarming over Black Africa and spreading Al-Islam at swordpoint?..

                  ?Much has been made of Arab invasions of Africa; they occurred in the North, but in Black Africa they are figments of the imagination. While the Arabs did conquer North Africa by force of Arms, they quite peaceably entered Black Africa During the period of our study, from the third to the seventeenth centuries, not one conquest was ever launched by way of the Nile?Nor was there ever any Arab conquest of Mozambique or any other East African territory?

                  Cheikh Anta Diop states?.?The Arab conquests dear to sociologists are necessary to their theories but did not exist in reality. To this day NO reliable historical documents substantiate such theories?

                  Slavery is UN-Islamic, it is NOT supported by the Quran, thus the point is that EVERY 'Arab' is NOT a Muslim as EVERY Muslim is NOT 'Arab'

                  That holds true today....

                  And what will explain to you the path that is steep?-

                  (It is.) freeing one in bondage;

                  Surely SADQAT / THE CHARITIES are for fuqra / those who are poor and for masakeen / the needy (who are reduced to poverty) and for amileen / workers on it, (those who work on charities) and for those whose hearts are composed and for RIQAB / FREE THOSE WHO ARE IN SLAVERY

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                    Al_Khidr
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                    That again is a very wide and and elastic statement which does not convey any real information or data.

                    On the other hand it is well known that slaves in the Muslim empires were of any colour or race, not particularly blacks or Africans.

                    Salaam

                    Salaam Huruf

                    Are you aware of the "Arab Slave Trade" where Arabs who were European conqueres enslaved Africans? You can go to the website
                    that I provided to start this page and the first video talks about the Arab Slave Trade.

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                      Al_Khidr
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                      Peace Al Khidr,

                      Wow... That website was truly an eye-opener. I'd heard claims from others regarding the complexions of the prophets, and I've even read some fabricated writings concerning some of the prophets being white. However, this is the first time I heard that accusation pointed at Mohammed. The website and videos were very informative. Thanks, and GOD bless...

                      Peace,

                      Ahmad

                      Salaam Ahmad Bilal

                      Thank you very much

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                        Al_Khidr
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                        Salaam progod

                        "Europeans recieved African slaves from other Africans mainly."

                        Why it does not surprice me to hear this from you. What you have presented here is a fallacy of the hightest degree. Africans did not
                        enslave themselves. There are actually a lot of people who says this but this is pure distortion of African History. Before the Arab slave trade
                        the Romans and Greeks also enslaved Egyptians who were Africans. Compare progods video to the video on the website I provided and also
                        check out true African scholars such as

                        cheikh anta diop
                        Ashra Kwesi
                        Dr. Ben Jochanin
                        Dr. Henry Clark
                        Malcolm X
                        Khallid Muhammad

                        Just to name a few because none of them teach that Africans sold themselves into slavery, this is a myth.

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                          Muslimtruthrevealed
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                          Asalaam Aalaikum

                          Brotha Khidr

                          Where can we find the descendants of the the enslaved Africans taken by Arabs from the Arab Peninsula, speaking the Arabiyyan Saudi?

                          As we know, language is a clear indicator as to whether one was enslaved and brought from another land and assimilated with their oppressors language and customs.

                          Where can we make this determination regarding descendants of the enslaved Africans, country and language.

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                            Al_Khidr
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                            Asalaam Aalaikum

                            Brotha Khidr

                            Where can we find the descendants of the the enslaved Africans taken by Arabs from the Arab Peninsula, speaking the Arabiyyan Saudi?

                            As we know, language is a clear indicator as to whether one was enslaved and brought from another land and assimilated with their oppressors language and customs.

                            Where can we make this determination regarding descendants of the enslaved Africans, country and language.

                            Salaam

                            Africa was conquered, colonized, under developed, enslaved by the entire Eurpoean continant, they all had their hands in this.
                            To demonstrate how powerful this was, they renamed the continant that we call "Africa" today. Africa is a Greek name and it
                            was named after a European explorer by the name of Africanos (hopefully I spelled it right) and they renamed the
                            countries in Africa. They shipped Africans as slaves every where America, Brazil, West Indies, Jamaica, just to name a few.

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                              afridi220
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                              peace be upon you,

                              the color of people doesn't matter. however, you are free to believe whatever you wish. all we know is that Adam was a black man.

                              Yeah he landed in Sirrilanka rotfl

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                                afridi220
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                                Nobody is talking about slaves in Muslim Empires. I was talking about the fact that Arab slave merchants were the ones who initially sold African slaves to Europeans. Duh!

                                have you seen a TV series KUNTA KUNTI a story of black slave girl in that series they have shown that the African slaves were kidnapped by american and europian marchands from Africa.

                                http//www.nps.gov/history/delta/underground/slave.htm

                                http//cghs.dadeschools.net/african-american/europe/slave_trade.htm

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  Salaam Al Khidr,

                                  Adam, according to the Qur'an, was indeed a black man. However, theoretically, all men stemmed from Adam, and everyone on the earth is part of his progeny; this also includes the European settlers and nations. So, where do you think the racial divide came from? If all men were originally black people (Nubians), how did white people get here? Are they from another progeny outside of Adam and Eve? Although it's easy to assume that the black Nubians migrated to different parts of the world, becoming isolated from the sun and paling their skin, and developing different languages, as many scientists today claim, there are clear distinguishments between blacks and whites that far surpass the color of skin; their behaviors are completely different as well. In many cases, Nubians and Caucasians (Europeans) seem like completely different species. What do you consider to be the stem of this racial divide, and why do you think black people and white people are so different from one another?

                                  Peace,

                                  Ahmad

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                                    Salaam Al Khidr,

                                    Adam, according to the Qur'an, was indeed a black man. However, theoretically, all men stemmed from Adam, and everyone on the earth is part of his progeny; this also includes the European settlers and nations. So, where do you think the racial divide came from? If all men were originally black people (Nubians), how did white people get here? Are they from another progeny outside of Adam and Eve? Although it's easy to assume that the black Nubians migrated to different parts of the world, becoming isolated from the sun and paling their skin, and developing different languages, as many scientists today claim, there are clear distinguishments between blacks and whites that far surpass the color of skin; their behaviors are completely different as well. In many cases, Nubians and Caucasians (Europeans) seem like completely different species. What do you consider to be the stem of this racial divide, and why do you think black people and white people are so different from one another?

                                    Peace,

                                    Ahmad

                                    http//www.adamwasblack.org/

                                    -\

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                                      Muslimtruthrevealed
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                                      Salaam

                                      Africa was conquered, colonized, under developed, enslaved by the entire Eurpoean continant, they all had their hands in this.
                                      To demonstrate how powerful this was, they renamed the continant that we call "Africa" today. Africa is a Greek name and it
                                      was named after a European explorer by the name of Africanos (hopefully I spelled it right) and they renamed the
                                      countries in Africa. They shipped Africans as slaves every where America, Brazil, West Indies, Jamaica, just to name a few.

                                      Khidr, Where are these descendants of enslaved Africans, who speak the Saudi Arabian Peninsula Arabic dialect and customs?

                                      Examples We have descendants of African slaves speaking English, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and following Christianity of those who enslaved them.

                                      Where can we find Arabic speaking descendants of African slaves, who have adopted the language, customs and attitudes of Semetic Arabs of the Arabian peninsula?

                                      Where is this country?

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                                        Samia
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                                        why do you think black people and white people are so different from one another?

                                        Because there was more than one "adam"

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                                          afridi220
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                                          Because there was more than one "adam"

                                          confused Can you please explain who was this second one O0

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