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    Al_Araf
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    salam samia. i asked you before, when you misled people claiming the root of mhymna is hmn, why you didnt "ban yourself" for a week, as you should have done. i said this because you said people "ban themselves" by your rule you should have banned yourself. of course you are being deceitful by trying to make a deal. this is not a souk where you are going to haggle with me over ever last piaster. forget your deals. you have deceitfully evaded the issue. i knew you would.

    since you have made the same error as before i will give you the same answer to begin with. you claimed before, that you were using lisan ul arab for your definitions, i told you at that time throw your lisan ul arab in the trash. instead of throwing it in the trash, you went back to it again, and made another mistake. stop translating arabic, or discussing the meaning of arabic words.

    the adjective mhymna predates arabic, it is originally an aramaic adjective. both arabic and aramaic use exactly the same letters to form exactly the same word. the root verb of mhymna is hymna which means belief in aramaic. some sources state that the older root of hymna is amn.

    i saw your ridiculous claim that the root is hmn, where did you throw the y? did it fall off the page all of a sudden?

    adj. trustworthy (---> ? part.pass., ; CPA \f7mhymN\f1 LSp 11, SA Ham 523156+) sg. he was found trustworthy FPT Dt 338; TN ib.; > {}<> > in order to be called trustworthy Git 47a(24); a trustworthy person EchRG 1433; TN Num 2716; pl. <>{} three trustworthy leaders FPT Gen 4012; TN ib.

    http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/cgi-bin/jpaoff.cgi?off=1275258

    hymn vb. to believe

    quad 1 to believe Com. 2 to entrust with Palm, Sam, Syr. 3 to bring faith to Syr. 4 to make familiar Syr. 5 to make into a eunuch Syr. 6 to admit as evidence JBA. 7 p.p. see s.v. mhymn adj. Com.

    quad T 1 to be believed Syr. 2 to be confirmed Sam, Syr. 3 to be reliable Syr. 4 to be committed to Syr. 5 to be done with confidence Syr. 6 to promise Syr. 7 to be commissioned Sam.

    http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/searchroots.php

    Strong's Number 01968 Original Word Word Origin !myh probably from (0539)
    Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Heyman None Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech hay-mawn' Proper Name Masculine
    Definition Heman = "faithful"

    http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=01968&version=kjv

    Strong's Number 0539 Original Word Word Origin !ma a primitive root
    Transliterated Word TDNT Entry 'aman TWOT - 116
    Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech

    aw-man' Verb

    Definition

    1. to support, confirm, be faithful a. (Qal)
    2. to support, confirm, be faithful, uphold, nourish 1a
      b. foster-father (subst.) 1a
      c. foster-mother, nurse 1a
      d. pillars, supporters of the door
      e. (Niphal)
    3. to be established, be faithful, be carried, make firm 1b
      f. to be carried by a nurse 1b
      g. made firm, sure, lasting 1b
      h. confirmed, established, sure 1b
      i. verified, confirmed 1b
      j. reliable, faithful, trusty
      k. (Hiphil)
    4. to stand firm, to trust, to be certain, to believe in 1c
      l. stand firm 1c
      m. trust, believe

    http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=539&version=kjv

    allah taught man the names of all things

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      Alen
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      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
      But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
      Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.

      Glory be to our God.
      Peace.

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        nerspi
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        peace

        This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
        But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
        Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.
        Glory be to our God.
        Peace.

        stop stealing my ideas man ;D
        God willing there will be such a movie (called almost a love song), which i plan to make )

        but to answer the original question i'd say it depends on the man, some could, some not.

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          anna
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          i have a question for the men, and try to clear you minds from all beleifs for a moment, if it was legal and accepted by society as a norm would men love more then one and marry ??

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            liquiddharma
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            All men are different, Anna. Some men, like me, wouldn't. Other men wouldn't be in love with many women, but would marry them anyway for the sex, like the rich arabs in Saudi Arabia.

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              the_seeker
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              salam siki. no akhi that translation is a complete mistake.

              the arabic word for supersede is "alagh" and supersedes is "yalghi" neither alagh or yalghi are in that sura.

              54 wanzalna alayka alkitab balhaq musadiqa lama bayn yadyh min alkitab. this translates to sent upon you is the book of truth confirming that before of the book.

              the word musadiqa means confirming. it does not mean superseding. the word kitab means book. it does not mean scripture. there is mistake after mistake. i cannot agree with the above.

              therefore 54 is saying the kitab given to muhamad confirms the kitab given to musa, daud, and isa.

              allah is the knower.

              peace al araf

              thanks for this comment. i have been wondering if the quran confirms or supersedes or both the previous scriptures.

              now if the correct rendering would only be that it confirms, then whatever is in the quran must be found in the previous scriptures (e.g. meat of pig is forbidden, etc.) & that whatever is not in the quran must not be found in the other scriptures (e.g. Lot sleeping with his daughters, the "story" of Samson & Delilah, etc.).

              it could be that the translation relating to "supersedes" is a derivation of "confirms". it could be that since the quran has everything that is in the previous scriptures, then following it (viz. supersedes) is following what is written in the previous scriptures.

              God knows best.

              salamun alaykum everyone...

              ramon jedi O0

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                Al_Araf
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                salam ramon. you state

                it could be that the translation relating to "supersedes" is a derivation of "confirms". it could be that since the quran has everything that is in the previous scriptures, then following it (viz. supersedes) is following what is written in the previous scriptures.

                allah knows the words alagh and yalghi. allah chose not to use the words alagh and yalghi, obviously because he does not wish to state anything is superseded. musadiq and yalghi are two different words. they convey two different meanings. allah could have said the kitab is musadiq and yalghi, he chose not to say that. for you to try and change musadiq into yalghi would require that you have the power of allah, the position of allah to make that change. you are not allah, you are not associated with allah, you are not permitted to make that change.

                if what you find is not what your forefathers believe, change what you believe. what if your forefathers were on the wrong path?

                allah is the teacher.

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                  Peace all
                  I would like to clarify why I'm arguing about this issue (Pylogamy).
                  I know from Quran that God have clarified that Man is allowed to Marry four women (taking into consideration all the conditions).
                  But Sadly, many Quran Aloners are arguing against it, and trying to ignore the Facts that Most of Prophets had done it.
                  Thus, I'm trying to show that Psychologically Man is capable of marring four women; nevertheless, I'm not promoting nor encouraging Polygamy to Men or Myself, after all, Polygamy is not ordered upon Men to do (obligatory), but a choice if they can fulfill its conditions.

                  I voted yes, taking into consideration my understanding of Man Love to Woman

                  Male is to care for the Female (fulfill her psychological and bodily needs) and provide protection to here and her kids (prevent the psychological and bodily harms).

                  Please be aware that many Males will be Chickened out from replying in writing &.

                  "Their wives will slice them if they found out about their Inner Opinion rotfl

                  Peace

                  thank you for sharing the truth sun completely agree

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                    belH
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                    Peace all

                    peace al araf

                    thanks for this comment. i have been wondering if the quran confirms or supersedes or both the previous scriptures.

                    Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.

                    thank you for sharing the truth sun completely agree

                    You welcome

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                      Al_Araf
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                      salam belalh. you make jokes about misleading people. this post of yours is a lie about the quran, and ample justification for a one week ban.

                      Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.

                      i have two words to say to you. you have added words to the quran. adding words to the quran is shirk.

                      PROVE IT.

                      allah separates falsehood from the truth.

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                        belH
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                        salam belalh. you make jokes about misleading people. this post of yours is a lie about the quran, and ample justification for a one week ban.

                        i have two words to say to you. you have added words to the quran. adding words to the quran is shirk.

                        PROVE IT.

                        allah separates falsehood from the truth.

                        7-163, 2-65, 4-145 proves that God put many laws upon Jews in Saturday.

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                          Al_Araf
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                          salam belalh. your response is either wilfully deceitful and an attempt to mislead, symptom of a mental illness, or just plain jahiliyya.

                          let me post once again the claim of yours on which you are being challenged, since you apparently lack the intellect to understand when told once. matter of fact let me post it three times so there is no mistake in what your eyes see. you claimed

                          Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.

                          Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.

                          Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.

                          do you understand the question now? you claim 7157 says "the burden and the shackles upon the jews, which god put on them in the torah, one of them is the sabbath in which fishing is forbidden is removed" by quran law.

                          the issue is 7157 and your translation of 7157. do you understand im talking about 7157, you had better understand because you said 7157.

                          where in 7157 does it say "the burden and the shackles upon the jews, which god put on them in the torah, one of them is the sabbath in which fishing is forbidden is removed" oh forger of lies against allah and the quran?

                          allah separates falsehood from the truth.

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                            FAR
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                            i have a question for the men, and try to clear you minds from all beleifs for a moment, if it was legal and accepted by society as a norm would men love more then one and marry ??

                            You need money to marry. For someone of us, not even one is a possibility.

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                              anna
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                              You need money to marry. For someone of us, not even one is a possibility.

                              awwwwwwwwwww well thats why you find a true beleiver as she will appreciate the human not material.......

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                                i have a question for the men, and try to clear you minds from all beleifs for a moment, if it was legal and accepted by society as a norm would men love more then one and marry ??

                                The answer is

                                If you have a garden full of roses will you love one and discard others or group

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                                  FAR
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                                  D awwwwwwwwwww well thats why you find a true beleiver as she will appreciate the human not material.......

                                  Yeah, but... how does she eat, get clothed and have a roof over her head?

                                  Oh and, in this country... there are some males who have four wives and get financed by the government (house and all). Welfare state, UK.

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                                    anna
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                                    Yeah, but... how does she eat, get clothed and have a roof over her head?

                                    thats a very good question............ i dont know how will she ever survive.............
                                    are you serious,if you are then i suggest nobody get married, until you become filthy rich, by then you will be old and wrinkly and then we will die and evetually your love, you will meet in heaven if we get there....
                                    any girl who wants a guy simply for his money then she is crazy and not a true beleiver, and any guy who thinks that he has to have a loads of money then he is just as crazy and not a true beleiver, people have been living for thousands of years and have not been as fortunate as we are today....they seem to have gotten married
                                    oh by the way i heard this news just recently, that the male species of humans is becoming extinct, it seems they are turning female.......... rotfl something about the water system and hormones mixing or something like that rotfl rotfl

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                                      afridi220
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                                      oh by the way i heard this news just recently, that the male species of humans is becoming extinct, it seems they are turning female.......... rotfl something about the water system and hormones mixing or something like that rotfl rotfl

                                      Poor ladies where they will go then '(

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                                        anna
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                                        Poor ladies where they will go then '(

                                        i dont know which is funnier, that or bush getting a shoe thrown at him, and the funniest thing, when they asked him, he said oh thats normal, but back home its called the finger rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                                          afridi220
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                                          i dont know which is funnier, that or bush getting a shoe thrown at him, and the funniest thing, when they asked him, he said oh thats normal, but back home its called the finger rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                          But why he said size 10?

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