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    paul_de_cote_divoire
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    I have read "The Message" and I like it. As I read it, I noted some points
    that possibly need corrections. I let you all review my post and let us make
    this translation the best English translation of the Recitation.

    1. THE MISSING ?BASMALLAH?
      One of the strangest aspects of the printed Scripture is the lack of a
      ?Basmallah? at the beginning of chapterInformation written regarding
      this subject....
      SHOULD "INFORMATION" NOT BE REPLACED BY " 9" ??

    In reviewing the older written texts, it was found that the ability to
    realize the separation between chapters 8 and 9, without a Basmallah,
    was nearly impossible without referring to the man-made injection of
    the chapter name to highlight the beginning of a new chapter.
    DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE SHOULD EVEN REMOVE THE "CHAPTER NUMBER" REFERENCES PUT
    AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY NEW CHAPTER IN ORDER TO STAY TRUER TO THE ORIGINAL
    REVELATION ???

    26207 All they luxury they were given...
    SHOULD IT NOT BE "THE LUXURY" instead of "THEY LUXURY" ?

    3960 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied about
    God their faces will be blackened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the
    arrogant ones?
    IS THERE A FULL STOP MISSING AFTER "GOD" ?
    IF YES DO NOT FORGET TO WRITE "THEIR" WITH A CAPITAL "T"

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      1. THE MISSING ?BASMALLAH?
        One of the strangest aspects of the printed Scripture is the lack of a
        ?Basmallah? at the beginning of chapterInformation written regarding
        this subject....
        SHOULD "INFORMATION" NOT BE REPLACED BY " 9" ??
        In reviewing the older written texts, it was found that the ability to
        realize the separation between chapters 8 and 9, without a Basmallah,
        was nearly impossible without referring to the man-made injection of
        the chapter name to highlight the beginning of a new chapter.
        DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE SHOULD EVEN REMOVE THE "CHAPTER NUMBER" REFERENCES PUT
        AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY NEW CHAPTER IN ORDER TO STAY TRUER TO THE ORIGINAL
        REVELATION ???

      Peace

      Good point; but I would say it will deepen the division between us and the other Moslems. If you leave it that way, it will not effect the Message.

      26207 All they luxury they were given...
      SHOULD IT NOT BE "THE LUXURY" instead of "THEY LUXURY" ?

      I agree, you are right

      3960 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied about
      God their faces will be blackened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the
      arrogant ones?
      IS THERE A FULL STOP MISSING AFTER "GOD" ?
      IF YES DO NOT FORGET TO WRITE "THEIR" WITH A CAPITAL "T"

      Because I'm an arabic speaker, this how I would translate

      3960 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see the faces of those who lied about
      God blackened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the
      arrogant ones?

      Peace

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        Because I'm an arabic speaker, this how I would translate

        3960 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see the faces of those who lied about
        God blackened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the
        arrogant ones?

        If you're an Arabic speaker, you should know that this is a mistranslation. In old Arabic texts, the words "ibyadda" and "iswadda" were often used to describe general expressions, namely happiness and sadness. So, translating the word "muswaddaatun" as BLACKENED is incorrect, and it should say that the faces of those people would be saddened or gloomy. The same applies to 3106 and 107, where most of the racist Islamic scholars translated the expressions as the faces of the righteous ones being "white" and the faces of the wicked ones being "black" (or dark). This is not Quranic, and it should also be corrected in the PM translation.

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          drfazl
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          Brothers,

          A translation is what you understand of what. The languages always fall short of sensing the reality. So think above the language and sense what Allah wants to convey and say "O Allah, the Master of the Wor(ld)s, Increase me in my knowledge!" This prayer is a must before you open up your lines on Quran.

          Quran is for following; let us fear and follow seeking His Help all the Way. Allah shows us the prayer "Show us the Straight Path; the path of those who You have Blessed; not of those..." If I say my meaning is correct then let it reflect in my life and let the fruits that I reap of it be the example and illumination for the fellow people to correct their understanding for a meaningful change towards the right course; and thereafter inspiring them to think beyond the languages; but sad enough we are materialistically and literally approaching Quran only for debate with little adoption to it.

          I am not preaching; just saying what I am.

          regards,

          .

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            17 The path of those whom You have blessed, not those who have
            incurred the wrath, nor the misguided.
            MAY BE THERE IS A "OF" MISSING AFTER "NOT"

            222 The One who made the land a habitat, and the sky a structure, and
            He sent down from the sky water with which He brought out fruit as a gift
            to you. So do not make any equals with God while you now know.
            FRUIT OR FRUITS - SHOULD THERE BE AN "S" AT THE END OF "FRUIT" ?

            229 He is the One who created for you all that is on Earth, then He attend
            to the universe and made it seven universes, and He is aware of all things.
            ATTEND OF ATTENDE"D" ???

            230 And your Lord said to the angels ?I am placing a successor on
            Earth.? They said ?Would You place in it he who would corrupt in it,
            and spill blood, while we sing Your glory, and praise You?? He said ?I
            know what you do not know.?
            IS "CORRUPT IN IT" GOOD ENGLISH ? WHY WAS THIS PHRASE CHOSEN ?
            WHY NOT "CORRUP IT" ???

            231 And He taught Adam the names of all things, then He displayed
            them to the angels and said ?Inform Me the names of these if you are
            truthful.?
            IS THERE NO "OF" MISSING AFTER "INFORM ME" ?

            233 He said ?O Adam, inform them of their names,? so when he
            informed them of their names, He said ?Did I not tell you that I know
            the unseen of heavens and Earth, and that I know what you reveal and
            what you were hiding??
            MAY BE A "THE" IS MISSING BEFORE HEAVENS AND BEFORE EARTH ????

            235 And We said ?O Adam, reside you and your mate in the paradise,
            and eat from it bountifully as you both wish, and do not approach this
            tree, else you will be of those who did wrong.?
            WHAT DOES PARADISE MEAN ? SHOULD WE KNOW USE ITS TRANSLATION INSTEAD ?

            267 And Moses said to his people ?God orders you to slaughter a
            heifer.? They said ?Do you mock us?? He said ?I seek refuge with God
            that I not be of the ignorant ones.?
            IS "THAT I NOT BE" GOOD ENGLISH ?? I NEED TO CHECK MYSELF.

            269 They said ?Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify what
            color it is.? He said ?He says it is a yellow heifer with a strong color,
            pleasing to those who see it.?
            DO "YELLOW HEIFER EXIST" ?

            274 Then your hearts became hardened after that, they became like
            stone or even harder; but even from the stones there are rivers that burst
            forth, or from them are those that crack so that the water comes forth, or
            IS IT "STONE" OR "STONES" IN THE ARABIC ORIGINAL ???

            2138 Such is God?s coloring, and who better than God in coloring. And
            to Him we are in service.
            IS THERE A MISSING "IS" AFTER "WHO" ?

            2143 And as such, We have made you a balanced nation so that you may
            be witness over the people, and that the messenger may be witness over
            you. And We did not make the focal point that you became on except to
            distinguish who follows the messenger from those who will turn on their
            heels. It was a great thing indeed except for those whom God had guided;
            God was not to waste your belief. God is Merciful and Compassionate
            over the people.
            MAKE THE FOCAL POINT THAT YOU "BECAME" OR "CAME" ????

            2187 It has been made lawful for you during the night of fasting to
            approach your women sexually. They are a garment for you and you are
            a garment for them. God knows that you used to betray your souls so He
            has accepted your repentance, and forgiven you; now you may approach
            them and seek what God has written for you. And you may eat and drink
            until the white thread is distinct from the black thread of dawn; then
            you shall complete the fast until night; and do not approach them while
            you are devoted in the temples. These are God?s boundaries, so do not
            transgress them...

            9112 They are the repenters, the worshipers, the thankful, the devout,
            the kneeling, the prostrating, the advocates of good and preventers of evil,
            and the keepers of the boundaries of God; and give good news to the
            believers.

            THE WORD "BOUNDARIES" IS USED TWICE IN THE TRANSLATION FOR THE SAME
            MEANING AS "LIMIT". "LIMIT" APPEARS IN MANY OTHER VERSES
            SUCH AS 2229 2230 413 414 584
            SO , IS IT "BOUNDARY" OR IS IT "LIMIT"

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              34 From before as a guidance for the people, and He sent down the
              Criterion. Those who rejected God?s revelations, they will have a painful
              retribution, and God is Noble, extracting in Revenge.
              IS THE WORD "EXTRACTING" OR "EXACTING" ?

              326 Say ?Our god, Possessor of kingship; you grant kingship to whom
              You please, and revoke kingship from whom You please, and honor whom
              You please, and humiliate whom You please; in Your hand is goodness.
              You are capable of all things.?

              IN THIS VERSE god DOES NOT START WITH A CAPITAL "G"

              329 Say ?If you hide what is in your chests or you reveal it, God will
              know.? And He knows what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth;
              and God is capable of all things.
              SHOULD IT NOT BE "WHETHER" INSTEAD OF "IF" AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VERSE ?

              349 And as a messenger to the Children of Israel ?I have come to you
              with a sign from your Lord; that I create for you from clay the form of a
              bird, then I blow into it and it becomes a bird by God?s leave, and I heal
              the blind and the leapers, and give life to the dead by God?s leave, and I
              prophesize for you what you shall eat and....
              WHO ARE THE LEAPERS ? DID YOU NOT MEAN LEPERS ?

              3161 It was not for any prophet that he should embezzle, and he who embezzles
              will be brought with what he has embezzled on the Day of Resurrection, then
              every soul will be given what it has earned without being wronged.
              IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL VERSE IN THE PDF FILE , THE FIRST LINE HAS NO SPACE BETWEEN
              THE WORDS.

              3163 They are grades with God, and God is seer of what they do.
              MAY BE "THERE ARE GRADES" ??? IS REALLY A "THEY" THAT IS THERE ?
              IS THERE NO WORD MISSING ???
              MAY "IN" BEFORE "GRADES" ????

              3184 If they reject you, then messengers before you were also rejected;
              they came with proofs and scriptures and the book of enlightenment.
              I HAVE SEEN IN 2 PLACES THAT WHAT HAS BEEN TRANSLATED INTO SCRIPTURES
              IN THIS VERSE COULD ACTUALLY REFER TO THE PSALMS. PLEASE
              COULD ANY ARABIC SPEAKING ONE ANALYZE THAT VERSE AGAIN ?

              ALSO IS "book of enlightenment" not meant to be written with capital letters
              as in "Book of Englightenment" ? does this not refer to a scripture preceding the Qur'an ?

              QURAN MEANS RECITATION, WHY IS IT NOT TRANSLATED ACCORDINGLY IN THE TEXT ??
              TO ME IT MAKES MORE SENSE. IT CONVEYS THE MEANING THAT IT IS A RECITATION
              AND THAT IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE RECITED TO INSTEAD OF JUST READING IN THE MIND.
              WHAT DO YOU THINK ? WHY DO U THINK THAT ??

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                53 Forbidden to you is that which is already dead, and the blood,
                and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than God, and that
                which has been strangled, and that which has been beaten to death, and
                that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and
                that which the wild animals have eaten from except what you managed
                to rescue, and what has been slaughtered on alters, and what you divide
                by the arrows of chance.
                MAY BE "ALTARS" INSTEAD OF "ALTERS" WAS MEANT HERE

                511 O you who believe, recall God?s blessings upon you when a group
                desired to aggress against you, and He restrained their hands from you.
                And reverence God. And in God the believers should put their trust.
                IS "AGRESS AGAINST" GOOD ENGLISH ???

                IS IT TRUE THAT THE EXPRESSION TRANSLATED AS ETERNALLY IN THE CASE OF
                HELL MEANS A LONG TIME ?????
                make a search on the net to find where u saw that.

                569 Surely those who believe; and those who are Jewish, and the
                Sabians, and the Nazarenes, whomever of them believes in God and the
                Last Day and does good work; then they will have nothing to fear nor will
                they grieve.
                MAY BE AN "S" IS NEEDED AT THE END OF "WORK" ===> "GOOD WORKS"

                5100 Say ?The bad and the good are not equal, even if the abundance of
                the bad pleases you.? So be aware of God, O you who have understanding,
                that you may succeed

                "PLEASES YOU" ? MAY BE "IMPRESSES YOU" ???

                5110 God said ?O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and
                your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the
                people in the cradle and to middle-age;

                WHAT DOES "MIDDLE AGE" IN ARABIC ?

                5114 Jesus son of Mary, said ?Our Lord and god, send down to us a
                feast from heaven, that it becomes a joy to us from the first to the last, and
                a sign from You, and provide for us, you are the best provider.?
                SHOULD the P of 'provider' be in capital letter ?

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                  626 And they are deterring others from it, and keeping away themselves;
                  but they will only destroy themselves, yet they do not notice.
                  IN THE PDF FILE, THE FIRST LINE OF THIS VERSE DOES NOT HAVE SPACES BETWEEN THE WORDS

                  6124 And if a sign comes to them they say ?We will not believe until
                  we are given the same as what God?s messengers were given!? God is fully
                  aware where He makes His message; those criminals will have debasement
                  with God and a painful retribution for what they had schemed.
                  IS THERE NOT A "OF" MISSING AFTER "AWARE" ??

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                    925 God has granted you victory in many battles. And on the day of
                    Hunayn when you were pleased with your great numbers but it did not
                    help you at all, and the land became tight around you for what it held,
                    then you turned to flee.
                    IS THE WORD USED IN ARABIC "BATTLES" OR "BATTLEFIELDS" ??

                    926 Then God sent down tranquility upon His messenger and the
                    believers, and He sent down soldiers which you did not see, and He
                    punished those who disbelieved. Such is the recompense of the rejecters.

                    940 If you do not help him, then God has helped him. When those
                    who rejected expelled him, he was one of only two, and when they were
                    in the cave, he said to his friend ?Do not grieve, for God is with us.? So
                    God sent down calmness over him ...

                    IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT HAS BEEN TRANSLATED INTO TRANQUILITY IN 926 AND INTO
                    CALMNESS IN 940 THE SAME ??? IF YES WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN RENDERED INTO THE SAME
                    WORD IN ENGLISH ??

                    959 And if they had only been content with what God and His
                    messenger had given them, and they had said ?God suffices; God will give
                    us from His bounty, and His messenger; it is to God that we desire.?
                    IT IS TO GOD THAT WE DESIRE. IS THIS SENTENCE WELL PHRASED IN ENGLISH ? I TRULY WONDER.
                    can you desire TO someone ??

                    436 And serve God and do not set up anything with Him, and be
                    kind to the parents, and the relatives, and the needy, and the neighbor
                    who is of kin, and the neighbor next door, and the friend far away, and
                    the traveler, and those committed to you by oath. God does not like the
                    arrogant, the boastful.

                    960 The charities are to go to the poor, and the needy, and those who
                    work to collect them, and those whose hearts have been united, and to free
                    the slaves, and those in debt, and in the cause of God, and the wayfarer. A
                    duty from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

                    IN THE ABOVE VERSES THERE ARE ARABIC WORD(S) THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSLATED INTO
                    TRAVELER IN 436 AND WAYFARER IN 960.
                    THE VERSES TO ME ARE A BIT CLOSE. SHOULD THE TRANSLATION BE THE SAME ??
                    IF NO LET ME KNOW.

                    983 IfGod returns you to a group of them, and they ask your permission
                    to come with you, then say ?You will not come with me ever; nor will...
                    SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "IF" AND "GOD" AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VERSE.

                    9123 O you who believe, fight those who around you of the rejecters, and
                    let them find strength in you; and know that God is with the righteous.
                    IS THE PHRASING OF THIS SENTENCE OK ? "FIGHT THOSE WHO AROUND YOU OF THE REJECTERS"
                    IS THERE NOT A "ARE" MISSING AFTER "WHO" ??

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                      1156 ?I have put my trust in God, my Lord and your Lord. There is
                      not a creature except He will seize it by frontal lobe. My Lord is on a
                      Straight Path.?
                      IS THERE NO "ITS/HIS/THE" MISSING BEFORE FRONTAL LOBE ?

                      1199 And they were followed by a curse in this, and on the Day of
                      Resurrection. What a miserable path to follow!
                      MAY BE THERE IS "WORLD" MISSING AFTER "THIS" OR SOME OTHER WORD ???
                      INDEED IT IS BY DOING A COMPARISON WITH THE FOLLOWING VERSE THAT
                      I MADE THAT SUGGESTION
                      1160 And they were followed by a curse in this world and on the Day of
                      Judgment, for ?Aad rejected their Lord. There is no more ?Aad, the people
                      of Hud.

                      11103 In this is a sign for he who fears the retribution of the Hereafter.
                      That is a Day to which all the people will be gathered, and that is a Day
                      which will witnessed.
                      IS THERE A "BE" MISSING BEFORE "WITNESSED" ? PLEASE CHECK THE ARABIC VERSION.
                      OR MAY BE "WILL" IS THE SUBJECT AND "WITNESSED" THE VERB ??

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                        390 Those who have rejected after their belief then increased in
                        rejection, their repentance will not be accepted, they are the strayers.
                        IS A COMMA MISSING AFTER "THEIR BELIEF" ?

                        3109 And to God is all that is in heavens and in the Earth; and to God
                        the events will be returned.
                        IS A "THE" MISSING BEFORE "HEAVENS" ?

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                          4102 And if you are with them and you hold the communion for
                          them, then let a group from amongst them stand with you and let them
                          bring.....
                          WHY IS "HOLD" USED INSTEAD OF "UPHOLD" THE COMMUNION WHEN IT WAS
                          "UPHOLD BEFORE" OR IS IT A TYPO ? OR MAY BE THE WORDS IN ARABIC REALLY DIFFER
                          same for 56 1087 11114 1778 2014 2945 3117 3333

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                            1760 And when We said to you Your Lord has encompassed the
                            people. And We did not make the vision that We showed you except as
                            a test for the people, and tree that was cursed in the Quran. And We are
                            making them fearful, but it only increases their transgression.
                            IS THERE NOT A "THE" MISSING BEFORE "TREE" ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC FIRST.

                            1783 And if We bless mankind, he turns away and turns his side. But
                            when adversity touches him, he is ever in despair!
                            MANKIND ?? IS "HUMANING BEING" WHAT IS MEANT ?

                            1790 And they said We will not believe to you until you cause a spring
                            of water to burst from the land
                            DOES THE "TO" BEFORE THE "YOU" HAVE ITS PLACE THERE ??
                            IS IT GOOD ENGLISH TO SAY "BELIEVE TO SOMEONE" ? MAY BE "BELIEVE IN SOMEONE"
                            OR MAY BE "UNTO" WAS INTENDED ?? WHAT IS THE BEST TRANSLATION HERE ?

                            1811 So We put forth upon their ears for many years in the cave.
                            IS THERE NOT WORD MISSING HERE ? "SO WE PUT FORTH UPON THEIR EARS"
                            I DO NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS SENTENCE.

                            1839 And if you enter your garden, you should have said This is
                            what God has given, there is no power except by God. You see me as
                            being less than you in wealth and in children?
                            THE PHRASING FROM THE BEGINNING TO "SAID". ARE THE TENSES RIGHT ???

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                              2015 ?The Hour is coming, I am nearly keeping it hidden, so that every
                              soul will be recompensed with what is strived.?
                              THE WORD BEFORE "STRIVED" SHOULD IT BE "IS" OR "IT" ? ANALYSIS ANYONE ?

                              20117 So We said ?O Adam, this is an enemy to you and your mate.
                              So do not let him take you out from the paradise, else you will have
                              hardship.?
                              CAPITAL LETTER FROM "PARADISE

                              2156 He said ?No, your lord is the Lord of heavens and Earth, the One
                              who initiated them. And I bear witness to such.?
                              HEAVENS IS MISSING ITS CAPITAL "H"

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                                2568 And those who do not call on any other god with God, nor do they
                                kill the life that God has made forbidden except in justice, nor do they
                                commit adultery; and whosoever does that will receive the punishment.
                                PLEASE CAN ANYONE RE-CHECK THE TRANSLATION OF THE LAST PART OF THE VERSE.
                                IT HAS SHOCKED ME I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A "NOT" BEFORE "RECEIVE"

                                2572 And those who do not bear false witness, and if they pass by vein
                                talk they pass by with dignity.
                                "VEIN" OR "VAIN" TALK ?

                                2574 And those who say ?Our Lord, grant us from our mates and our
                                progeny what will be the comfort of our eyes, and make us role models
                                the righteous.?
                                IS THERE NOT A "FOR" MISSING BEFORE "THE RIGHTEOUS" ?

                                2649 He said ?Have you believed to him before I permitted you? He
                                is surely your
                                "BELIEVE IN" OR "BELIEVE TO"

                                2670 When he said to his father and his people ?What do you
                                worship??
                                THE WORD TRANSLATED AS WORSHIP, IS IT THE SAME AS THE ONE TRANSLATED AS SERVE IN
                                THE FIRST CHAPTER ?

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                                  2850 But if they fail to respond to you, then know that they follow only
                                  their desires. And who is more astray than one who follows his desire,
                                  without guidance from God? God does not guide the wicked people.
                                  PLEASE CHECK THE ARABIC VERSION TO SEE IF THE SECOND "DESIRE" IS NOT MEANT TO BE PLURAL

                                  2855 And if they come across vain talk, they disregard it and say ?To
                                  us are our deeds, and to you is your deeds. Peace be upon you. We do not
                                  seek the ignorant.?
                                  PLEASE CHECK IF IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE "TO YOU ARE YOUR DEEDS" INSTEAD OF
                                  "TO YOU IS YOUR DEEDS"

                                  2917 ?You are worshipping nothing but idols besides Him, and you are
                                  creating fabrications. Those that you worship besides God do not possess
                                  for you any provisions, so seek with God the provision and serve Him and
                                  be thankful to Him; to Him you will return.?
                                  PLEASE CHECK IN THE ARABIC VERSION WHETHER THE SECOND "PROVISION" SHOULD BE PLURAL

                                  3331 Any whosoever of you is dutiful to God and His messenger, and
                                  does good works, We will grant her double the recompense, and We have
                                  prepared for her a generous provision.
                                  "ANY WHOSOEVER" IS THAT GOOD ENGLISH ?

                                  3356 God and His angels commune over prophet. O you who believe,
                                  you shall commune over him, and comply completely.
                                  IS THERE NOT A "THE" MISSING BEFORE PROPHET ?

                                  349 Have they not seen to all that is before them and behind them,
                                  in the heaven and the Earth?
                                  IS "SEEN TO " GOOD ENGLISH ?
                                  DO WE SAY "SEE TO SOMETHING" OR "SEE SOMETHING" ?

                                  3416 But they turned away, so We sent them a destructive flash flood,
                                  and We substituted their two gardens into two gardens of rotten fruits,
                                  thorny plants, and a skimpy harvest.
                                  CAN WE SAY "SUBSTITUTE INTO " ? I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT "SUBSTITUTE WITH/BY"

                                  3432 Those who were mighty will say to those who were weak ?Did
                                  we turn you away from the guidance after it had come to you? No, it was
                                  you who were criminal.?
                                  MAY BE AN "S" AT THE END OF CRIMINAL ?

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                                    4037 ?The secrets of the heavens, and that I can take a look at the god
                                    of Moses, although I think he is a liar.?
                                    HAS IT BEEN TRANSLATED THE SAME EVERYWHERE ELSE

                                    4049 And those who are in Fire will say to the guardians of Hell ?Call
                                    upon your Lord to reduce for us the retribution, by just one day!?
                                    "THE" MISSING BEFORE "FIRE" ??

                                    4065 He is the Living; there is no god except He. So call on Him while
                                    devoting the system for Him. Praise be to God, Lord of the worlds.
                                    "DEVOTING THE SYSTEM FOR HIM" OR "DEVOTING THE SYSTEM TO HIM" ?
                                    PLEASE CHECK ARABIC VERSION

                                    419 Say ?You are rejecting the One who created the Earth in two
                                    days, and you set up equals with Him. This is Lord of the worlds.?
                                    "THE" MISSING BEFORE "LORD" ??

                                    4517 And We gave them clarity in the matter, but then they disputed
                                    after the knowledge had come to them, out ofjealousy amongst themselves.
                                    SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "OF" AND "JEALOUSY"

                                    4625 It destroys everything by the commanded of its Lord. Thus they
                                    became such that nothing could be seen except their homes. We thus
                                    requite the criminal people.
                                    "COMMAND" OR "COMMANDED" ? CAN ANYONE PLEASE CHECK ARABIC VERSION ?

                                    4629 And We directed to you a company of Jinn, in order to let them
                                    listen to theQur?an. So when...
                                    SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "THE" AND "QUR'AN"

                                    4629 And We directed to you a company of Jinn, in order to let them
                                    listen to the Qur?an. So when they arrived there, they said ?Pay attention.?
                                    Then, when it was finished, they returned to their people, to warn them.
                                    IS "PAY ATTENTION" THE EXPRESSION TRANSLATED IN OTHER PLACES AS "TAKE HEED" ?

                                    4724 Do they not reflect on the Qur?an? Or are there locks on their hearts?
                                    SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "THE" AND "QUR'AN"

                                    4737 IfHe were to ask you for it, to the extent of creating a hardship for
                                    you, you would become stingy, and your hidden evil might be exposed.
                                    SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "IF" AND "HE"

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                                      755 No, man desires that he continue committing sins.
                                      "S" MISSING AT THE END OF "CONTINUE" ? IS IT GOOD ENGLISH

                                      8316 Then they will be entered into the Hell.
                                      THERE IS "THE" BEFORE HELL. IT IS NOT OFTEN THAT IT HAPPENS , NO ?
                                      WHY A "THE" THIS TIME ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC.

                                      8325 They are given drink from a pure sealed vial.
                                      MAY BE THERE IS A MISSING "TO" BEFORE "DRINK" OR MAY BE SOME OTHER WORD ??

                                      842 And it permits its Lord, and is ready.
                                      THE SKY PERMITS ITS LORD ? DOES THAT MEAN THE SKY HAS POWER OVER LORD ( WHICH I
                                      DO NOT BELIEVE) ?? ARE YOU SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT TRANSLATION ?

                                      1025 No, if only you had the knowledge of certainty.
                                      1026 You would then see Hell.
                                      1027 Then you will see it with the eye of certainty.
                                      1028 Then you will be questioned, on that Day, about the blessings.
                                      LOOK AT THE TENSE OF 1027. COULD ANY ONE CHECK THE ARABIC ORIGINAL TO SEE WHETHER
                                      IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE "YOU WOULD SEE IT" INSTEAD OF "YOU WILL SEE IT" ??

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                                        618 They wish to put out God?s light with their mouths. But God will
                                        continue with His light, even if the rejecters dislike it.
                                        THERE ARE VERSES QUITE SIMILAR TO THIS ONE.
                                        ARE THEY USING THE SAME WORDS IN ARABIC OR ARE THERE DIFFERENCES ?
                                        ESPECIALLY "DISLIKE" IS "HATE" IN ANOTHER VERSE 932
                                        ESPECIALLY "PUT OUT" IS "EXTINGUISH" IN VERSE 932

                                        6110 ?O you who believe, shall I lead you to a trade that will save you
                                        from painful retribution??
                                        IS THERE NO "A" MISSING BEFORE "PAINFUL" ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC

                                        637 They are the ones who say ?Do not spend on those who are with
                                        the messenger of God, unless they abandon him!? And to God belongs
                                        the treasures of the heavens and the Earth, but the hypocrites do not
                                        comprehend.
                                        SHOULD BELONG HAS AN "S" AS IT IS "THE TREASURES OF ... THE EARTH" THAT BELONG ?

                                        6311 And God will not delay any soul if its time has come. And God is
                                        Expert to all that you do.
                                        SOMETIMES "IN" FOLLOWS EXPERT , SOMETIMES "OVER",
                                        COULD YOU PLEASE IN THE ARABIC THAT THE WORDS ARE DIFFERENT AS WE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
                                        TRANSLATIONS ?

                                        642 He is the One who created you, then among you there is the
                                        rejecter, and among you is the believer. And God is Seer over what you
                                        do.
                                        IS THERE A "THERE" MISSING IN "AND AMONG YOU IS THE BELIEVER" ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC

                                        673 He created seven skies in layers. You do not see any imperfection
                                        in the creation by the Almighty. Keep looking; do you see any flaw?
                                        7115 ?Did you not see how God created seven skies in layers??
                                        IS SKY THE SAME AS HEAVEN ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC VERSION
                                        TO SEE THE ORIGINAL WORDS. IF YES ( SKY = HEAVEN ), THEN WHY IS IT ANOTHER WORD DIFFERENT FROM HEAVEN
                                        THAT IS USED HERE ? ALSO THERE MAY BE OTHER VERSES WHERE SKY IS USED FOR HEAVEN.

                                        7121 Noah said ?My Lord, they have disobeyed me and have followed
                                        whose money and children only increased him in loss.?
                                        IS THERE NO WORD MISSING AFTER "FOLLOWED" ?

                                        7128 ?My Lord, forgive me, and my parents, and whoever enters my
                                        home as a believer, and to the believing men and believing women; and
                                        do not increase the wicked except in destruction.?
                                        IS THE "TO" BEFORE "THE BELIEVING MEN" IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE.
                                        IS IT GOOD ENGLISH ?

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                                          560 Say ?Shall I inform you of worse than this as a punishment from
                                          God? Those whom God cursed and became angry at them, and He made
                                          from them apes and pigs and servants of evil. Those have a worst place
                                          and are more astray from the right path.?

                                          SHOULD IT NOT BE " A WORSE PLACE" INSTEAD OF "A WORST PLACE" ?

                                          5111 ?And I inspired the disciples that you shall believe in Me and
                                          My messenger; they said ?We believe, and bear witness that we have
                                          submitted.??

                                          do we have missing quotes before YOU and after MESSENGER ?

                                          572 Rejecters indeed are those who have said ?God is the Messiah
                                          son of Mary!? And the Messiah said ?O Children of Israel, serve God, my
                                          Lord and your Lord. Whoever sets-up partners with God, then God will
                                          forbid Paradise for him, and his destiny will be the Fire; and the wicked
                                          will have no supporters.?
                                          IS A FULL STOP OR SEMI COLON REQUIRED AFTER or is there nothing in the Arabic version

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