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Attempting to Correct "THE MESSAGE"

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    134 And on Earth are neighboring pieces of land with gardens of
    grape and plants and palm trees, some of which may be twin sharing the
    same root, or single, even though they are being watered with the same
    water source; and We make preference for some of them over others in
    what they consume. In that are signs for a people who comprehend.
    SHOULD THERE BE AN "S" AT THE END "GRAPE" ?

    WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD TRANSLATED INTO PATIENT/PATIENCE ?

    1335 The example of Paradise that the righteous have been promised,
    is that rivers flow beneath it, and its provisions are continuous as is its
    shade. Such is the abode of those who were righteous, while the abode of
    the rejecters is the Fire.
    WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT IS TRANSLATED INTO "EXAMPLE"
    SOME HAVE TRANSLATED IT INTO "ALLEGORY". IS IT A BETTER TRANSLATION THAN "EXAMPLE" ?
    OR IS "EXAMPLE" THE BETTER TRANSLATION ??

    1412 ?And why should we not place our trust in God, when He has
    guided us our path. And we will be patient to the harm you inflict upon
    us. And in God those who trust should put their trust.?
    IS THERE NOT A WORD MISSING AFTER "US" AND BEFORE "OUR PATH" ?
    SOME PEOPLE HAVE TRANSLATED PATH IN A PLURAL FORM. IS IT REALLY
    "PATHS" IN THE ARABIC ORIGINAL ?

    1593 Regarding what they use to do.
    IS THERE NOT A "D" MISSING AT THE END OF "USE" ?

    16101 And if We exchange a verse in place of another verse; and God is
    more aware of what He is revealing; they say ?You are making this up!?
    Alas, most of them do not know.
    COULD THE WORD THAT HAS BECOME "VERSE" MEAN "SIGN" ???

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      484 He is the One who sends down tranquility into the hearts of the
      believers, so that they may increase in faith along with their present faith.
      And to God belongs the soldiers of the heavens and the Earth, and God is
      Knowledgeable, Wise.
      SHOULD THERE BE AN "S" AT THE END OF "BELONG" ?
      WHO IS/ARE BELONGING ? GOD OR THE SOLDIERS ?

      487 And to God belongs the soldiers of the heavens and the Earth.
      And God is Noble, Wise.
      SHOULD THERE BE AN "S" AT THE END OF "BELONG" ?
      WHO IS/ARE BELONGING ? GOD OR THE SOLDIERS ?

      4810 Those who pledge allegiance to you, are in-fact pledging allegiance
      to God; God?s hand is above their hands. Those of them who violate such
      a pledge, are violating it only upon themselves. And whosoever fulfills
      what he has pledged to God, then He will grant him a great reward.
      4811 The Nomads who lagged behind will say to you ?We were preoccupied
      with our money and our family, so ask forgiveness for us.? They say with their
      tongues what is not in their hearts. Say ?Who then would possess any power
      for you against God if He wanted harm to afflict you or if He wanted benefit
      for you?? No, God is fully Aware of everything you do.
      FONT FACE AND SIZE HAVE BEEN CHANGED FOR THESE VERSES. WHY ? SHOULD WE NOT KEEP
      A UNIFORMIZED FONT FACE AND SIZE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TEXT ?

      4816 Say to those Nomads who lagged behind ?You will be called on
      to fight a people who are very powerful in warfare, unless they surrender.
      Then if you obey, God will grantyou a good reward, but if you turn away as
      you turned away before, He will punish you with a painful retribution.?
      "GRANTYOU" IS NOT ONE WORD, MISSING SPACE CHARACTER

      Your Lord is with vast forgiveness. He has been fully aware of you since
      He initiated you from the Earth, and while you were embryos in your
      mothers wombs...
      IS THERE NOT AN APOSTROPHE MISSING AFTER THE "S" OF "MOTHERS" ?

      5336 Or was he not informed of the teachings in the Scriptures of Moses?
      IS "SCRIPTURES" MEANT TO BE PLURAL ? IS IT PLURAL IN THE ARABIC VERSION ?

      5337 And of Abraham who fulfilled?

      5443 Are your rejecters better than those? Or have you been absolved
      by the scriptures?
      IS "SCRIPYURES" PLURAL IN THE ARABIC VERSION ?

      5452 And everything they had done, is in the scriptures.
      IS "SCRIPTURES" PLURAL IN THE ARABIC VERSION ?

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        paul_de_cote_divoire
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        3356 God and His angels commune over prophet. O you who believe,
        you shall commune over him, and comply completely.
        IS THERE A MISSING "THE" BEFORE PROPHET ?

        3446 Say ?I advise you to do one thing that you stand to God, in pairs
        and as individuals, then reflect. There is no madness in your friend, he is
        only a warner to you in the face of a severe retribution.?
        IS IT AN "AND" OR AN "OR" before "as individuals"
        can you please check in arabic ?

        3510 Whosoever is seeking pride, then know that to God belongs all
        Pride. To Him ascend the good words, and He elevates the good deed.
        And as for those who scheme evil, they will have a painful retribution,
        and their scheming will fail.
        is the word translated as "PRIDE" pride or dignity ?
        could any one check in Arabic ?

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          16120 Abraham was a nation, dutiful to God, a monotheist, and he was
          not of those who set up partners.
          ABRAHAM WAS A NATION ? PLEASE CHECK ARABIC TO SEE IF THE TRANSLATION IS CORRECT

          3220 And as for those who were wicked, their abode is the Fire. Every
          time they try to leave it, they will be put back in it, and it will be said to
          them ?Taste the retribution of the Fire in which you used to deny.?
          IN which you used to DENY ? is that english ? or is there in the arabic version
          some specific word that leads you to add IN

          3333 You shall settle down in your homes, and do not go about like
          in the olden days of ignorance. You shall hold the communion, and
          contribute towards betterment, and obey God and His messenger. God
          wishes to remove any affliction from you, O people of the Dwelling, and
          to purify you completely.
          WHAT DOES OLDEN MEAN ? OR IS IT A MISTAKE ?

          419 Say ?You are rejecting the One who created the Earth in two
          days, and you set up equals with Him. This is Lord of the worlds."
          IS THERE NO "THE" MISSING BEFORE "LORD" ?

          2284 To God is what is in the heavens and in Earth, and if you declare
          what is in your souls or hide it, God will call you to account for it. He
          will forgive whom He wishes, and punish whom He wishes, and God is
          capable of all things.

          WOULD A "WHETHER" NOT BE PREFERABLE TO THE "IF" ???

          1026 To those who do good work will be good and more, and their faces
          will not be darkened or humiliated. These are the people of Paradise, in it
          they will abide.

          3106 The Day on which faces will be whitened and faces will be
          blackened; as for those whose faces will be blackened ?Did you reject
          after believing? Taste the retribution for what you rejected.?
          3960 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied about
          God their faces will be blackened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the
          arrogant ones?

          COMPARE 1026 WITH 3106 AND 3960. "DARKENED" IS USED IN THE FIRST AND
          "BLACKENED" IN THE FOLLOWING TWO. IS THE WORD IN ARABIC THE SAME OR IS IT
          DIFFERENT ?

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            paul_de_cote_divoire
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            Peace

            Good point; but I would say it will deepen the division between us and the other Moslems. If you leave it that way, it will not effect the Message.

            The thing is I am not and I think we should not try to comply with what has happened so far.
            our aim should be truth. and truth is not democratic. the number of people supporting an idea
            will not make a falsehood , truth.
            moreover, Quantity is not necessarily Quality.
            All I have in mind is accuracy.

            Peace

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              197 ?O Zachariah, We give you glad tidings of a son whose name is
              John. We have not given that name before to anyone.?
              WHAT DOES JOHN MEAN ?
              SHOULD WE NOT HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE NAMES IN THE QURAN WITH THEIR DEFINITION
              IN SOME APPENDIX. I THINK IT COULD HELP A LOT IN STUDYING THE QURAN.

              ALSO AS WE KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THAT JOHN IS IN FACT YOCHANAN
              and Moses is MOSHE
              WHY DO WE NOT PUT THE HEBREW NAMES INSTEAD OF THOSE ANGLICIZED ONES ?
              WOULD THAT BE ALTERING THE WORD OF GOD OR WOULD IT BE A NICE ENDEAVOUR ?

              20101 They will remain therein, and miserable on the Day of Resurrection
              is what they carry.
              IN THE PDF FILES, THERE ARE SPACE CHARACTERS MISSING between words

              20113 and 122
              MAY BE THERE IS AN "AS" MISSING IN 122
              THE VERSES ARE QUITE CLOSE.

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                3754 Hesaid ?Can anyone find him??
                MISSING SPACE CHARACTER BETWEEN "HE" AND "SAID"

                384 And they were surprised that a warner has come to them from
                among themselves. And the rejecters said ?This is amagician, a liar.?
                SPACE CHARACTER MISSING BETWEEN "A" AND "MAGICIAN"

                4828 He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and
                the system of truth, so that it would expose all other systems. And God is
                sufficient as a witness.
                933 He is the One who sent His messenger with guidance and the
                system of truth, to make it expose all other systems, even if those who set
                up partners hate it.
                THERE ARE SIMILARITIES IN THE 2 VERSES.
                IN THE ARABIC VERSION ARE THE TWO EXPRESSIONS TRANSLATED
                AS "so that it would expose all other systems" AND
                "to make it expose all other systems" DIFFERENT OR THE SAME ?

                5514 He created the human from a clay, like pottery.
                IS THE "A" BEFORE "CLAY" IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE ? SHOULD IT BE THERE AT ALL ?
                WE HAVE BEEN SAYING "FROM CLAY" SINCE THE BEGINNING.
                PLEASE CHECK ARABIC VERSION.

                5527 Andthe presence of your Lord will remain, the One with Majesty
                and Honor.
                MISSING SPACE CHARACTER BETWEEN "AND" AND "THE PRESENCE"

                5711 Who will lend God a loan of goodness, to have it multiplied for
                him manifold, and he will have a generous recompense?
                5718 Surely, the charitable men and charitable women, who have
                loaned God a loan of goodness, He will multiply their reward, and they
                will have a generous recompense.
                THERE ARE VERSES WHERE IT IS "LOAN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS".
                ARE THE EXPRESSIONS TRANSLATED AS "LOAN OF GOODNESS"
                AND "LOAN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS" THE SAME IN ARABIC ?

                5822 You will not find any people who believe in God and the Last
                Day leaning towards those who oppose God and His messenger, even
                if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their
                tribe. For these, He decrees faith into their hearts, and supports them
                withSpirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises...
                MISSING SPACE CHARACTER BETWEEN "WITH" AND "SPIRIT" AND
                IT SEEMS THAT WE SHOULD WORK ON THAT PART OF THE VERSE.
                IS IT "A SPIRIT" "THE SPIRIT" , PLEASE CHECK ARABIC.

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                  3442 So today, none of you can help or harm one another. And We will
                  sayto the transgressors ?Taste the retribution of the Fire that you used to
                  deny.?
                  "SAYTO" IS MISSING A SPACE CHARACTER BETWEEN "SAY" AND "TO"

                  3539 HeistheOnewhomadeyousuccessorsontheEarth. Subsequently,
                  whoever disbelieves, then to him is his disbelief...
                  SPACE CHARACTERS MISSING AT BEGINNIG OF VERSE

                  384 And they were surprised that a warner has come to them from
                  among themselves. And the rejecters said ?This is amagician, a liar.?
                  SPACE IS NEED BETWEEN "A" and "MAGICIAN"


                  3333 You shall settle down in your homes, and do not go about like
                  in the olden days of ignorance. You shall hold the communion, and
                  contribute towards betterment, and obey God and His messenger. God
                  wishes to remove any affliction from you, O people of the Dwelling, and
                  to purify you completely.

                  9125 As for those who have a disease in their hearts, it only increased
                  foulness to their foulness, and they died as rejecters.

                  7162 Those who were wicked amongst them altered what was said to
                  them with something different; so We sent to them an affliction from the
                  sky because they were wicked.

                  THE WORD TRANSLATED AS FOULNESS IN 9125, IS IT THE SAME AS THE ONE TRANSLATED AS AFFLICTION
                  IN 3333 and 7162

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