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Is the Quran an eloquent hoax?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    As a Christian I found that excessively insulting to Muslims. Especially the God-alone Muslims on this forum. There is no need for that form of insult to any religion.

    bravo yes

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      Samia
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      Whats this? I don't wanna read this! >

      As a Christian I found that excessively insulting to Muslims. Especially the God-alone Muslims on this forum. There is no need for that form of insult to any religion.

      Here

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596576.msg207933#msg207933

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        liquiddharma
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        There is scientific proof

        http//www.phpbber.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2&sid=1ae7daed21efe50f83576c55d34ac920&mforum=emob

        You might want read some of these articles if you need to be convinced

        That appears to be a white supremacist website. It has a thread category about a merger with "Stormfront"

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          Rev_John
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          That appears to be a white supremacist website. It has a thread category about a merger with "Stormfront"

          They are not worth listening to

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            They are not worth listening to

            yes

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              Rami
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              Lets read a very bizzare verse

              2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

              First, what is the Restricted Temple?

              The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

              Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

              And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

              What the hell??? brickwall

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                Rami
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                The same bad relation between the Quran and the Bible is also found between the NT and the OT.

                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx5EKaY1B8g&feature=channel_page
                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0pgcHkrP0&NR=1
                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHCxl-5a0A&feature=related
                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjJXduuNlg&feature=related

                Ofcourse that takes the Quran deeper into the abyss.

                Peace.

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                  Rev_John
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                  Lets read a very bizzare verse

                  2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                  First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                  The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                  Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                  And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                  What the hell??? brickwall

                  nope

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                    liquiddharma
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                    Lets read a very bizzare verse

                    2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                    First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                    The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                    Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                    And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                    What the hell??? brickwall

                    The temple is inside you bro.

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      Lets read a very bizzare verse

                      2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                      First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                      The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                      Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                      And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                      What the hell??? brickwall

                      What makes you think that the authenticity of the Quran is dependant on it's similarity to the Torah and the OT?
                      Are you a Jew or a Muslim?

                      Peace

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        Rami
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                        What makes you think that the authenticity of the Quran is dependant on it's similarity to the Torah and the OT?
                        Are you a Jew or a Muslim?

                        Peace

                        Do you have any other Torah?? So when the Quran says Torah, what does it mean?

                        The Greek Septaguint is proof that the Torah we have today is the one they had even before Mohammed by 600 years.

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                          Q_student
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                          Do you have any other Torah?? So when the Quran says Torah, what does it mean?

                          The Greek Septaguint is proof that the Torah we have today is the one they had even before Mohammed by 600 years.

                          Peace
                          Muslims are not bound to follow "Torah" because it was book of guidance only to "Bani Israeel".

                          Regards

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                            Rami
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                            Peace
                            Muslims are not bound to follow "Torah" because it was book of guidance only to "Bani Israeel".

                            Regards

                            But the Quran states people of the Book will readily believe in the Quran if they are righteous. But in reality, the opposite is true, if you believe in the Torah, you will never believe in the Quran.

                            Thats another nail in the coffin.

                            Peace.

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                              Rami
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                              What is the Quran exactly?

                              The Quran is the Arabic recitation of the Book that was given to Moses to teach the people of the House the Scritpure and Wisdom. These people included some Israelites, one of them is the orphaned Mohammed.

                              The people of the Book, knowing both Arabic and the foreign language of the Book that was given to Moses, will recognize that the Arabic recitation bear incredible resemblance to the Book they study and so believe in it.

                              So you can say that the Quran is the Divine Rabba of the Mosaic teachings.

                              Thats why it judges between the Israelites.

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                                Rami
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                                An arrogant Jew bashes the Quran and the NT.

                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxk19XmvTQ&feature=channel_page

                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUjqEYXH2sg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FLIORLIOR8&feature=player_profilepage

                                The Muslim position is indefensible. The Quran has lots of outrageous claims. I mean everything in the Quran is WEIRD.

                                Now Jesus is the Messiah son of the Virgin Mary which is a sister of Aaron who is the brother of Moses son of Amram but most importantly he is not the son of God. Not even Ezra btw.

                                AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! brickwall

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                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                  An arrogant Jew bashes the Quran and the NT.

                                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxk19XmvTQ&feature=channel_page

                                  Sis gye canott spiek proppa inglish.

                                  Dude, this guy doesnt even know what he's talking about. He hates Jesus and Mary, etc. I bet that guy cant even explain/defend his racist Tanakh and Talmud stories.

                                  The Muslim position is indefensible. The Quran has lots of outrageous claims. I mean everything in the Quran is WEIRD.

                                  ???

                                  Did you know that Tanakh and Talmud is man-made (Maybe Tanakh has a little bit of credibility, but Talmud is a total racist fabrication).

                                  Now Jesus is the Messiah son of the Virgin Mary which is a sister of Aaron who is the brother of Moses son of Amram but most importantly he is not the son of God. Not even Ezra btw.

                                  1. Evidence if this is true from the Quran
                                  2. Evidence if it contradicts the Torah or OT or Talmud, etc.
                                  3. Who cares if it does?

                                  I believe the Quran 100%.

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                    Now Jesus is the Messiah son of the Virgin Mary which is a sister of Aaron who is the brother of Moses son of Amram but most importantly he is not the son of God. Not even Ezra btw.

                                    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!! brickwall

                                    Evidence plaese

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                                      Rami
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                                      Evidence plaese

                                      REFUTE ME PLEASE!! (

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                                        afridi220
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                                        REFUTE ME PLEASE!!

                                        How when you dont believe in Quran and i dont believe in other books hmm

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                                          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                          REFUTE ME PLEASE!!

                                          looooooooooooooool..you're the one making the claim - you have to prove it.

                                          From my last post

                                          1. Evidence if this is true from the Quran
                                          2. Evidence if it contradicts the Torah or OT or Talmud, etc.
                                          3. Who cares if it does?

                                          I believe the Quran 100%

                                          Peace

                                          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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