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Who was the greatest among all the messengers and prophets?

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    unknownuser
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    How would Allah be fair if Allah prefers one person over another without that one doing an extra job? If the two men were not doing the same, exact effort, then what Allah would do would not be called favoring. Allah would be rewarding each of them as much as each of them deserves. Favoring CANNOT exist in the calculations of Allah. Every person gets what he/she deserves, in reward or in punishment.
    Those who think that Allah plays favorites, need to seriously reevaluate their whole understanding of Allah, Islam and deen ASAP.

    Peace,

    The above CANNOT is your criterion of what is fairness.

    God makes/does what He wills

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      Peace

      3428 (342

      And (O Prophet,) We have sent you to the entire mankind as a' bearer of good news and a warner, but most people do not know

      622

      (622)He it is Who has raised a Messenger among the gentiles' *2 from among themselves, who recites to them His Revelations, purifies them and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom, *3 whereas before this they were indeed lost in manifest error

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      (623) And is also for those others who have not yet joined them. *5 Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
      Regards

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        WayFinder
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        Peace sister
        We believe in all prophets and respect all prophets.But there is only Prophet who has been sent to All mankind till Day of judgement not others.
        Regards

        There is only one prophet whom God has spoken to directly...
        There is only one prophet whom God had strenghen with the Rooh Al Quds and who could cure the blind and turn a clay bird alive

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        The list can go on like this... but its futile

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          TAJ
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          God makes/does what He wills

          Of course God makes/does what He wills, but based on what? On justness and fairness OR the color of your eyes!?

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            Alen
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            Peace,
            Respectfully.

            I would say Messenger Ibraheem. After all, he was tempted to kill his son. Then again, Nuh did see The Flood. Moosa split the sea. Isaa ascended. Prophet Muhammad visited Spanish peninsula....i don't know.

            But for me, personally, the best one is prophet Jusuf. The amount of patience he had .... to be thrown into the well, to be sold as a slave, to be nearly raped, to be thrown into jail wrongfully and stay there for decades - and still not to complain, lose nerves or get angry .... that is one True Muslim.

            Peace.

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              There is only one prophet whom God has spoken to directly...
              There is only one prophet whom God had strenghen with the Rooh Al Quds and who could cure the blind and turn a clay bird alive

              ....

              The list can go on like this... but its futile

              Peace ;
              You are right but those prophets were sent only to their own "nations" not all mankind.
              Regards

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                WayFinder
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                Peace ;
                You are right but those prophets were sent only to their own "nations" not all mankind.
                Regards

                To a single Nation or to All mankind... The challenge REMAINS the same for all... The difficulties they had facing the disbelievers were harsh and almost fatal... Ibraheem was even THROWN INTO THE FIRE... The message is the same... One God!

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                  Eid,

                  Baa6il (falsehood) CANNOT exist in Allah's calculation.

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                    Alen
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                    To a single Nation or to All mankind... The challenge REMAINS the same for all... The difficulties they had facing the disbelievers were harsh and almost fatal... Ibraheem was even THROWN INTO THE FIRE... The message is the same... One God!

                    True.

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                      To a single Nation or to All mankind... The challenge REMAINS the same for all... The difficulties they had facing the disbelievers were harsh and almost fatal... Ibraheem was even THROWN INTO THE FIRE... The message is the same... One God!

                      Peace ;
                      No one is denying the nature of message.
                      "Thrown into Fire" ,then how was he saved ? Miracle ???
                      Regards

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                        Peace ;
                        You are right but those prophets were sent only to their own "nations" not all mankind.
                        Regards

                        At the time of prophet Muhammad, there were Christians and Jews around. They were left alone to practice their religions. How does that go with the "all mankind" belief? All religions were to all mankind around them, depending on the communications systems at the time, and Allah's plan. There is no privilege in the amount of land that a messenger covered or the number of people who complied. A messenger would follow All'as command, regardless.

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                          At the time of prophet Muhammad, there were Christians and Jews around. They were left alone to practice their religions. How does that go with the "all mankind" belief? All religions were to all mankind around them, depending on the communications systems at the time, and Allah's plan. There is no privilege in the amount of land that a messenger covered or the number of people who complied. A messenger would follow All'as command, regardless.

                          Peace
                          These are not my words ,these are Allah's words in the Quran for which I have posted the verse above.
                          Regards

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                            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                            Peace,
                            Respectfully.

                            I would say Messenger Ibraheem. After all, he was tempted to kill his son. Then again, Nuh did see The Flood. Moosa split the sea. Isaa ascended. Prophet Muhammad visited Spanish peninsula....i don't know.

                            But for me, personally, the best one is prophet Jusuf. The amount of patience he had .... to be thrown into the well, to be sold as a slave, to be nearly raped, to be thrown into jail wrongfully and stay there for decades - and still not to complain, lose nerves or get angry .... that is one True Muslim.

                            Peace.

                            2136 Say, "We acknowledge God and what was sent down to us and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriarchs, what was given to Moses and Jesus, and what was given to the prophets from their Lord; we do not make a distinction between any of them and to Him we are submitters."

                            4152 Those who acknowledge God and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them, We will give them their rewards. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

                            The only distinction

                            829 O you who acknowledge, if you are aware of God, He will make for you a distinction, and He will cancel your sins and forgive you. God is possessor of great favor.

                            1779 From the night you shall reflect upon it additionally for yourself, perhaps your Lord would grant you to a high rank.

                            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                              unknownuser
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                              Of course God makes/does what He wills, but based on what? On justness and fairness OR the color of your eyes!?

                              Eid,

                              Baa6il (falsehood) CANNOT exist in Allah's calculation.

                              Why you asking me what how God wills or calculates things including the color of my eyes?

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                                Bigmo
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                                Peace
                                These are not my words ,these are Allah's words in the Quran for which I have posted the verse above.
                                Regards

                                I guess I meant who inspires you. The debate has gone to another level. We are not making seperation and we are not rejecting one for another. They were all of one faith. Nufariq means seperate.

                                You obviously believe Muhammad. However the reason you gave about all of mankind does not make sense. Since Jesus and Moses and even David and Solomon are known by billions of people also.

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                                  We ar all one people, one mankind. Whoever was sent to somebody was also sent to all of us, because all and every people have a meaning, a sense in God's creationwhich all of us can discover, and even God's creation is a risala.

                                  Salaam

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    We ar all one people, one mankind. Whoever was sent to somebody was also sent to all of us, because all and every people have a meaning, a sense in God's creationwhich all of us can discover, and even God's creation is a risala.

                                    Salaam

                                    We are all one mankind, but not one nation.

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      TAJ
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                                      Student,

                                      Peace
                                      These are not my words ,these are Allah's words in the Quran for which I have posted the verse above.
                                      Regards

                                      You are unable to differentiate between your own understanding/comprehension and Allah's words. Revise the ayah/ayahs you brought. You might realize that there are other meanings to it that the one you, as well as many others, thought.

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                                        TAJ
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                                        Why you asking me what how God wills or calculates things including the color of my eyes?

                                        Never mind handshake

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                                          YAYA
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                                          HAL-HAMDU-LILAHI
                                          THIS IS NO TOPIC TO ARGUE ABOUT
                                          IT IS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHT FORWARD
                                          THE QURAN IS WIDE YET NARROW
                                          THE QURAN IS COMPLEX YEST SELF EXPLANATORY
                                          IT IS ONE YET THE COMBINATION OF ALL OTHER BOOKS
                                          IT IS OF RELIGION YET ENCOMPASES THE WHOLE ACTIVITIES OF HUMAN LIFE
                                          IF THE ABOVE ARE TRUE
                                          THEN THE NEXT TO THE QURAN IS THE HADITH
                                          IF YOU READ SOME CHAPTERS OF THE QURAN AND BACK IT UP WITH THE ADITH OF THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH, YOU WILL FOUND OUT THIS THREE OPEN SECRET
                                          1-WHEN ADAM WAS CREATED, HIS FIRST STATEMENT WAS (ALHAMDULILAH). IF YOU LOOK DEEPLY INTO THIS WORD- YOU WILL FIND IN IT THE NAME OF THE PROPHET(SAW)
                                          2-MUHAMADU IS THE FIRST OF ALL CREATION BEFORE ADAM,EVEN WHEN ADAM FELL INTO SIN, AND WAS SEEKING FOR FORGIVENESS AND REPENTANCE, IT WAS THE TESTIFICATION (LAILAHA ILALAHU, MUHAMADU RASULULAHI)THAT BROUGHT ADAM BACK TO THE FACE OF ALLAH
                                          3- IT WAS IN THE QURAN THAT ALLAH MENTIONED THAT (IT IS NOW THAT I HAVE SANTIFIED YOUR RELIGION FOR YOU, AND BROUGHT ISLAM AS THE UNIVERSAL RELIGION). THUS THE BRINGER OF ISLAM IS THE MOST BELOVED IN THE FACE OF ALLAH
                                          ALLAHU ALAMU
                                          MA SALAM

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