Was Moses in Egypt?????
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salam
i am not trying to make things fit. it is just clear to me that moses was in egypt. perhaps i am wrong, i never said i know for a fact.
so you say it is not egypt, so what is it then? what would make it not egypt but some other place? and what is this other place?
btw also in english and french we say the king’s wife (la femme du roi) and we also say pharaoh’s wife and not the pharaoh’s wife (la femme dE (of) pharaon and la femme dU (of the) pharaon are both correct). it doenst mean pharaoh is the name of a person.
btw just a side note, is it a coincidence that akhenaton was “erased” from history by the succeeding egyptian pharaohs and city he built amarna was layed to ruin? and also a coincidence that his wife nefertiti was erased from recorded history and no one knows for sure what happened to her or why she was erased? (remember in the Quran The God tells us pharaoh’s wife believed in The God) is it also a coincidence that she and akhenaton only had daughters?
im just guessing here it could very well not be akhenatonpeace
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The wife of fir3awn says the Qur'an, the same as the wife of Nuh and the wife of Lut,
But the wife of THE aziz,It does not say the wife of the Fir3awn, no article before fir3awn just like the wife of Nuh without article, and wife of Lut, no article with the name of the husband
But article with the name of the title,
the wife of THE aziz
Salaam
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salam
my point is it is not grammatically incorrect to say fir3awn rather than The fir3awn
so saying fir3awn only is okay to mean pharaoh. no need to say “the fir3awn” to mean a title. the rulers of egypt are called fir3awn
anyways, where was moses then ?
peace
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Can you give any instances of the same thing without the article from the Qur'an? Where is it said that the article is correct and still mean the same as without the article? Articles have a purpose, there are not there or are there for nothing.
As to where it was, there were long debates int he forum as it being in Southwestern Arabian Paninsula, Yemen and surroundings, where really there are streams and there were indeed many kingdoms or domains. But I have no interest in convincing anybody of anything, again. whoever is interested should verify her or himself for her or his own benefit.
Salaam
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Salam,
Pharaoh being a title or the name of the first person who used it does not make any difference.
Julius Ceaser (proper name) was the first to adopt his name as a title, and all that followed were named "Ceaser".
We know that "Al Firoun" (the family of Pharaoh) are mentioned several times in the Qur'an and that God is very angry with them all (He condemns them to the worst punishment in Hell 4046).
Nothing in the Quran contradicts the argument that Egypt (Nile area) is the same Egypt mentioned by God.
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Everything in the Qur'an contradicts Musa and Yusuf being in Egypt. But nobody is bound to agree either on one thing or the oher.
However, a streams and one river, I still find the Nile to miss, and very much. Specially when it is a matter in which pretended Egypt and egyptians are involved. Unbelievable. Streams under but no Nile.
The day Egyptians recover some self respect will recover also their past marred by an undocumented attribution unde th eguise of religion. Because again, nothing, but nothing, not even a small piece has been found corroborating anything of that.
The idea of the King of Egypt at its most powerful sending some recruiters to gather a force to pursue some people...
Salaam
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I don't see the contradictions you keep bringing up. Let's break it down into some smaller discussion points
Q. Can one river spawn many rivers?
A. Yes, according to 274, one point (in this case a rock with water gushing through it) may spawn forth many rivers (anhaar).
Q. Is ancient Egypt a land of many such rivers?
A. Yes, looking at the ancient kingdom which was based out of Memphis, the kingdom was situated on the Nile Delta which had many rivers flowing around/in it.
Q. Can Pharaoh be a name and a title?
A. Yes, it can be the name of the person who first took this mantle (which is why the Quran refers to the extended family of Pharaoh as "Al" Firawn).
Q. Did ancient Egypt undergo a "drought" as mentioned in the story of Joseph?
A. Yes, according to a rock inscription, ancient Egypt went through a 7 year drought (https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_Stela).
Q. Would the Pharaoh call for people to be recruited to pursue a rag-tag group of commoners?
A. Not sure what the point of this question is, but if the Quran says it happened (2653), then it must have. Pharaoh would have been a broken man by this time after years of plagues infested the land (7130) and he and his people would have been completely broken and exhausted.
Q. Has any Egyptian king's body been found preserved after all these centuries (in fulfillment of 1092)?
A. Yes, the body of Ramsees II was found mummified (having lived till old age) https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II
I would finally conclude with a link to an interesting article "Who Was Imhotep?" which speaks of Prophet Joseph being the famous Egyptian Vizier Imhotep
https//free-minds.org/who-was-imhotep
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salam
I do not see contradictions either in moses being in egypt
if you (huruf) say it is not egypt, what is it then?
we have to becareful not to start interpreting and being different from mainstream just for the sake of being different.
we should not let satan fool us. it is not because many of us refute hadiths etc and believe that only the Quran (and the other Books The God metions in Quran such as Injeel) is from The God and is complete that we are necessarily guided by The God. remember, The God does what He wants, and He guides whom He wants.
people claiming to follow only the Quran start interpeting things as in salat is not prostration (salat is sujud an prostration and supplicating The God for forgiveness mercy and guidance etc..) or ramadan is only a couple of days or masjid al Haram is not a physical place etc i mean come on people stop innovating
and for those who claim 19 magic number i mean come on how different are you from the other sects. you took away verses form the Quran without any right. That clearly shows that you do not believe the Quran to be preserved by The God. and seriously, its pretty obvious (to me) that 19 refers to angels who guard(?) the fire (not hell but the fire) - and i believe that hell is earth and the 7 skies/universes (The God says something like 7 heavens and the likes of earth so perhaps also 7 earths and remember that hell has 7 abwab (doorways, gates, segments?))
anyways my point is people should stop interpeting and all just for the sake of being different.
dont let satan fool you. shirk is not just openly worshipping idols or others but following the devil and falling into his traps. the devil also makes people think what they do is great whilst it is disobeying The God (following idols and disobeying The God such as in not giving charity or maintaining your prayers etc and pehaps innovating!)
Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - indeed, he is to you a clear enemy, And that you worship Me? This is a straight path. - (chapter 36, verses 60 and 61)
peace
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Dear TF,
Yes and no to what you have said.
We should always be weary of the devil diverting us and letting us create new idols, yet, at the same time, we are commanded by 1736 not to uphold what we have not been able to verify.
There is no absolute wrong idea until we have allowed all avenues of an idea to be explored and debated - the truth can withstand extended scrutiny.
For example, sujood is physical in some instances when done by humans in the Quran. However, it is not physical when the stars or trees or even angels do it (hence the idea has merit and debate).
Also, fasting is both for a number of days and a month - depending on the reader seeing 2 separate fasts or 1 single fast in the verses.
The prophet is called Ahmed, but also Mohammed - which allows a deeper look at the historic character and where he was from.
Abraham left part of his progeny at the restricted House to guide people, yet Lot is from Abraham’s progeny (so is this about Lot or Ismail or Isaac)?
God refers to the House, the ancient House, and the restricted House...are they the same?
God refers to Bakka and Mecca...are they the same?
God refers to the restricted Tenple and the farthest Temple...are they the same?
God calls all people to pilgrimage, yet the restricted Temple is closed off to idolaters?
The list goes on, but the idea is that everything is debatable as long as we don’t create idols of these ideas and put them above God.
We only fail if we stop challenging our own understanding and cease to search for truth.
This life is about serving God and only God.
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salam layth
hope you are doing well
my opinions
there are not many ways, there is one way in sens that ramadan is either some days or a month, prayer is either physical or not etc. we should strive to find it yes, but not by interpeting where there should be no interpretation. i believe the Quran is to be taken at face value.
- prayer - yes existence submits to The God the moon is in an orbit and its phases are layed out and it does other things like regulate tides, the sun lightens the earth is in an orbit and sends energy to earth, the trees grow and provide oxygen and others things etc etc all creation follows the order and purpose that it has been created for. humans have been given the choice and we should obey The God. within those commands is to prostrate physically. The God mentions specific salats (evening (sunset to susk and throughout the night) and fajr) and on the day of gathering.
if salat were to just obey Him, why name the salats? are we not supposed to obey Him all the time? The God also says to bow down with those who bow (surah 2 verse 43)
The God also tells us to not be loud or too quiet in our prayers but in between, and to say what is said in verse 111 of surah 17. He also tells us those who seek forgiveness before dawn. so for me its clear, prayer is to bow and fall to our faces and supplicate Him for forgiveness and guidance
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abraham mentions that The God gave him isaac and ishmael (and jacob as well perhaps as grandson). he never mentions that The God gave him lot. The God tells us that abaraham says he put of his progeny in the restricted temple to pray, and there is also a verse in the Quran where The God tells us that ishmael used to push his kin to prayer. so for me it was clear ishmael was in the restricted temple and not lot (if i remember well there is a verse where The God mentions that there is peace in the restricted temple whilst lot’s city was destroyed although maybe city destroyed but temple remained intact)
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the farthest mosque for me could maybe mean limi of the tree of the outmost boundary (limit of the tree ie something like the cosmic tree that all religions have example yggdrasil) i think The God permitted the prophets and messengers to go to the outmost boundary near which there is paradise (but they have not seen paradise i believe) in order to witness the creation and strengthen their beliefs.
i am not yet knowledgeable about the restricted or ancient temple issue and mecca bakka (although i believe it is not mecca in saudi arabia but perhaps the monastery in petra) once i forge an understanding on that matter ill revert to you.
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The God says whoever witnesses the month let him fast IT, not fast a part of it or within it or whatever an answer for ramadan is in surah 53. and from surah 106 i think hajj is in summer and winter so ramadan is other than that. (unless restricted months are consecutive and hajj is in a restricted month)
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regarding ahmed and mohammed i do not have an opinion on it yet apart perhaps in area and language of jesus (hebrew? aramaic?) mohammed is mentioned as ahmed just like yusuf is jospeh
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i am not knowledgeable yet about the issue with all mankind invited to restricted temple but not idolators, but why would idolators go to the restricted temple that is dedicated to The God?
to conlclude, in my opinion the Quran should be read as a whole and taken at face value. example when The God says He made pigs and apes from humans well He literally did that (that is why apes and pigs are very similar to humans and why pork is forbidden) so we should maybe read the Quran and stop interpreting left and right
i may be wrong allll along the line lol but i take the Quran at face value
peace
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Peace...
I do agree with Huruf with certain points what she claims... Coz it was her choice after perceiving ... I don't like to call Egypt since there is no Egypt in Quran.. let's keep as Misr (however it is pronounced).. But I don't agree with her that Misr being only a city... Misr according to Quran is a well planned country which has a city and and surrounded with rivers and agriculture and farming... A perfect nation...
If you go through all the occurences of Misr in Quran that you can't deny that unless blinded.. Misr was called as Kingdom as well...4351 " And Pharaoh called out among his people; he said, "O my people, does not the kingdom of Misr (Mulk Misr)belong to me, and these rivers flowing beneath me; then do you not see?"
No need to call kingdom of city.. Unless one thinks so.. Even verse 261 is a great nation which produces all fruits..King pharoa can't simply rule a huge City.. He needs the resources reaching to his city.. That's not inside the city but outside... So it's a massive kingdom ... Being the ruling place in a huge city.. That's Misr... So it can merely mean a massive city as well as the whole kingdom that massive city belongs to... Kings were not ruling only cities... They rule nations of kingdoms..
Read carefully all Misr verses within the context..
Next point is location in our current world...
I don't think it matters much like it matters where is masjid Al haram or ancient house or where Muhamed lived... Coz people claim Mohamed lived in current Day makka so they keep circumnavigate or rather rounding allegedly called ancient house. So that's worth a research than musa.
Okay any how.. Question is before knowing, Was Musa from Misr, better to know who was Musa?
Can anyone say who was He? That's it...One thing to note is Rome is Rome still Misr is Misr .... Can anyone change the location of Rome? Then why to change Misr..
Musa was everywhere... wasn't he?
** He is one of those who fought to deliver Children of Israel...so he has connection with Israel.. Where is Israel? Fair question right...
** Musa was in Midean at least 8 years... Where was Midean? Not far from where he escaped... Isn't it? At least outside pharoa's control.. Coz old man called musa "you are safe here"
** And musa was in Misr 10"87..
So did he live only in Misr..?Aren't these places all close-by that Musa could manageby..
If anyone claim it is Yemen current days the southern peninsula of Arabia then all above three locations should be in very close proximity to Yemen..
Before Quran many glaring books were revealed.. So all those should be concerned with Yemen..
But Romans were in Yemen and remnants are still there though not in Makka . But previous scripture holders have no concerns of Yemen but areas of Jordan Israel lebonan etc. Area.. Why they neglected Yemen if their ancestors connected to Yemen..No more comments.. There is truth.. Perceive it...
@ TF.. I won't agree with your emotions.. Let people search and debate.. Don't worry God will guide whoever deserves.. If guided they cannot have chosen the wrong path... No guidance with wrong path..
God knows the guided ones.. You can't take quran at face value in everything.. . Explore and let God guide if God wills and if He doesn't then that's the end of right path..Unless you know truth without doubt argue with it till you get convinced by others view.. Afterall you are totally in a confused state as per what you have written above.. Then why you try to stop others being exploring and presenting their view.. Right and wrong is always clear to the guided ones and God knows them..
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peace Layth,
Nice to see you posting again.
God refers to the House, the ancient House, and the restricted House...are they the same?
God refers to the restricted Tenple and the farthest Temple...are they the same?
God calls all people to pilgrimage, yet the restricted Temple is closed off to idolaters?
Have you read these articles
What is the meaning of al masjid al haram according to The Quran?
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.htmlWhat is "al hajj" according to The Quran?
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.html -
Peace All.
Those who are doing the rounds with subjects from Qoran will notice that some subjects will stay interpreted differently depending on where the "logic / understanding/search/. of the individual.." lies.
Bringing "proofs" can also be pointless, because the past can never be brought with it. So it is each to their proof/fact/...As for history ,well what can one say ,except there is some history that is agreed on by many but still disputed by others. The devil can sometimes be in the details. And this is where we differ. Can humans tell lies? Of course they can. Can humans distort the truth? Of course they can.. Can history be written and controlled by the "Victors" ? Of course it can.... And so on.
So how are we to check/ use 1736 on many subjects and issues of the past? Why did Qoran only deal with certain people and sometimes left some details out? One can only say Qoran is not a history book but a message. I will come to my point at the end of this post.
For example if one tried to search Moses history and came up to this
https//www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/73398/jewish/Moses.htmDo they believe all of it? Is there any distortions/?...etc.
One can use Qoran to chreck, some details agree but others differ...Then we move on to another side of the same story like for example
https//www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/moses-0012411And so forth....One can compare /analyse...But still little issues will arise. So what is the solution that gets us to the truth?
This is where I go back to my earlier point that Qoran is a message not a history book first and formost.
What is the message that will unite all its students?
I say it is the call to "Sirat Al Mustaqueem". Qoran has come to unite us on this very important path so that we can live in peace and harmony with each other ,now in our present time.As for other subjects ,like this one, it does not matter an iota who is right or wrong. The lesson of Moses will give us the motivation to better our lives not where he was or the exact location of the people and place.
Thise who have the truth should be to their own satisfaction,not others. They can only share it ,not ram it down throats..
Brothers and sisters, discuss by all means, but remain united and do not divide because of issues that do not matter.
Yes of course bring in your views, you are all welcome.
GOD bless you all.
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salam jkhan
i am not saying people should not debate. on the contrary i think we most definately should
what i am saying is that we should not start interpreting and trying to be different from mainstream for the sake of being different (thats my debate lol)
example prayer The God me tions specific prayers and tells us not to be too loud or quiet. He also tells us to bow with those who bow. why start saying salat is not physical and interpreting and all. is it not salat is physical non?
or ramadan, He tells us to fast IT, so is it not clear it is the month?
or when He says people’s faces look to the sky and as such to face the restricted temple. is it not clear too it is a physical place? and that abtaham and ishmail laid its foundations.
i am not confused i have my opinions i just do not want to say things that could misguide in case i am wrong and as such i say that i could be wrong lol
so yeah let us definately debate i am just saying (debating ) ) we should not innovate just to be different especially where the words are clear
peace
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or when He says people’s faces look to the sky and as such to face the restricted temple. is it not clear too it is a physical place? and that abtaham and ishmail laid its foundations.
It seems you are equating al masjid al haram and al bayt. What is your evidence for that?
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salam wakas
perhaps the house is a generic term and the masjid al Haram is the name of the house. non?
in any case for me its a bit obvious the place is physical
all i am saying is i feel like people here try sooo hard to be different from mainstream for the sake of being differentpeace
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peace tf,
I have seen many claim it should be understood how it is commonly understood (i.e. same as your view it seems) but they are silent when it comes to answering some basic questions I have asked over the years.
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-2196-critical-thinking.html
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-quran.html
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.htmlIn fact I do not recall anyone who has answered the issues/questions in the above articles. Some answer bits here and there but that's about it. On this forum I have created threads for each article so you can read what others say in them.
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peace tutti_frutti.
My understaniding from Qoran is that Abraham was given a task with instructions from GOD to take part of his family ( Likely Ishmael and family) to a physical place and build a sanctuary for GOD Alone commemoration for all monotheists from Al Naas"Our Lord, I have settled part of my family in this plantless/Arrid valley, at Your -Baytica Al Muharram- Sacred House. Our Lord, they are to observe the Salat, so let throngs of people converge upon them, and provide for them all kinds of fruits, that they may be appreciative.
رَبَّنا إِنّى أَسكَنتُ مِن ذُرِّيَّتى بِوادٍ غَيرِ ذى زَرعٍ عِندَ بَيتِكَ المُحَرَّمِ رَبَّنا لِيُقيمُوا الصَّلوٰةَ فَاجعَل أَفـِٔدَةً مِنَ النّاسِ تَهوى إِلَيهِم وَارزُقهُم مِنَ الثَّمَرٰتِ لَعَلَّهُم يَشكُرونَThis Abraham and Ishmael did somewhere as these verses explain further
Surely, those who disbelieve and repulse others from the path of God, and from the -Masjid Al Haram-Sacred Masjid that we designated for all the people - be they natives or visitors - and seek to pollute it and corrupt it, we will afflict them with painful retribution.
إِنَّ الَّذينَ كَفَروا وَيَصُدّونَ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ وَالمَسجِدِ الحَرامِ الَّذى جَعَلنٰهُ لِلنّاسِ سَواءً العٰكِفُ فيهِ وَالبادِ وَمَن يُرِد فيهِ بِإِلحادٍ بِظُلمٍ نُذِقهُ مِن عَذابٍ أَليمٍAbraham was following GOD s instructions
We appointed Abraham to establish the Beyt( Shrine) "You shall not idolize any other god beside Me, and purify My Beyt- (shrine) for those who visit it, those who live near it, and those who bow and prostrate.
وَإِذ بَوَّأنا لِإِبرٰهيمَ مَكانَ البَيتِ أَن لا تُشرِك بى شَيـًٔا وَطَهِّر بَيتِىَ لِلطّائِفينَ وَالقائِمينَ وَالرُّكَّعِ السُّجودِ
"And proclaim that the people shall observe Hajj . They will come to you walking or riding on various exhausted (means of transportation). They will come from the farthest locations."
وَأَذِّن فِى النّاسِ بِالحَجِّ يَأتوكَ رِجالًا وَعَلىٰ كُلِّ ضامِرٍ يَأتينَ مِن كُلِّ فَجٍّ عَميقٍ
They may seek commercial benefits, and they shall commemorate God's name during the specified days for providing them with livestock. "Eat therefrom and feed the despondent and the poor."
لِيَشهَدوا مَنٰفِعَ لَهُم وَيَذكُرُوا اسمَ اللَّهِ فى أَيّامٍ مَعلومٰتٍ عَلىٰ ما رَزَقَهُم مِن بَهيمَةِ الأَنعٰمِ فَكُلوا مِنها وَأَطعِمُوا البائِسَ الفَقيرَ
They shall complete their obligations, fulfill their vows, and visit the-Beyt Al Atik-( ancient shrine).
ثُمَّ ليَقضوا تَفَثَهُم وَليوفوا نُذورَهُم وَليَطَّوَّفوا بِالبَيتِ العَتيقِ
Those who reverence the rites decreed by God have deserved a good reward at their Lord. All livestock is made lawful for your food, except for those specifically prohibited for you. You shall avoid the abomination of idol worship, and avoid bearing false witness.
ذٰلِكَ وَمَن يُعَظِّم حُرُمٰتِ اللَّهِ فَهُوَ خَيرٌ لَهُ عِندَ رَبِّهِ وَأُحِلَّت لَكُمُ الأَنعٰمُ إِلّا ما يُتلىٰ عَلَيكُم فَاجتَنِبُوا الرِّجسَ مِنَ الأَوثٰنِ وَاجتَنِبوا قَولَ الزّورِ
You shall maintain your devotion absolutely to God alone. Anyone who sets up any idol beside God is like one who fell from the sky, then gets snatched up by vultures, or blown away by the wind into a deep ravine.
حُنَفاءَ لِلَّهِ غَيرَ مُشرِكينَ بِهِ وَمَن يُشرِك بِاللَّهِ فَكَأَنَّما خَرَّ مِنَ السَّماءِ فَتَخطَفُهُ الطَّيرُ أَو تَهوى بِهِ الرّيحُ فى مَكانٍ سَحيقٍ
Indeed, those who reverence the rites decreed by God demonstrate the righteousness of their hearts.
ذٰلِكَ وَمَن يُعَظِّم شَعٰئِرَ اللَّهِ فَإِنَّها مِن تَقوَى القُلوبِThe questions that various members are debating are
Is this beyt a physical or abstract place or both?
If physical, where is it?
What is Hajj?
...etc.
For me it is clear this is a phydical place where people live or visit, commemorate GOD and gather together in a specific GOD Alone sacred Masjid to remember GOD and give thanks for what He provided and spend some specific days doing this as a rite.
There may be some abstract/spiritual meaning as well and benefit to the soul in doing this..
GOD bless you.
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Salam TF,
i am not saying people should not debate. on the contrary i think we most definately should
what i am saying is that we should not start interpreting and trying to be different from mainstream for the sake of being different (thats my debate lol)
Why did you assume that people here debate ideas so they can be different from the mainstream?
The mainstream of people do not even believe in God (see 12103), while the mainstream of those who believe are idolaters (See 12106)
example prayer The God mentions specific prayers and tells us not to be too loud or quiet. He also tells us to bow with those who bow. why start saying salat is not physical and interpreting and all. is it not salat is physical non?
I have never said that. I simply point out that we must be open to people who have different views in-case we have made a mistake in our understanding. For example, if you see Salat as a physical "prayer", then how will you reconcile 95 which tells us that if the idolaters/mushrikeen uphold the Salat, then we are to no longer fight them?
Will you force a person to pray when the Quran gives full freedom of worship and expression?
It is this lack of understanding or challenging tradition meanings that has created satanic "Islamic" nations that beat people to attend prayer and cut off hands and heads...
or ramadan, He tells us to fast IT, so is it not clear it is the month?
And did you read the verses before this verse (see 2183-184) which talks about people fasting "for a limited number of days" as was decreed for "those before"?
You have assumed that its a full month based on a) tradition, b) not noticing the other verses on the subject.
I can argue here that "Ramadhan" in 2185 is a separate fast from 2183-184. I can also argue that the "limited number of days" occurs within the month of Ramadhan (just like the days of Hajj occur within the 4 restricted months)...
or when He says people’s faces look to the sky and as such to face the restricted temple. is it not clear too it is a physical place? and that abtaham and ishmail laid its foundations.
I did not say it was not physical - but you have made an assumption (like the traditionalists) that Abraham and Ismail raised the foundations of this restricted Temple (actually, they say the Kaaba/Bayt and not the Temple). Was there only one Bayt? If so, then why does God refer to the Bayt in Bakka as the "first" (see 396).
i am not confused i have my opinions i just do not want to say things that could misguide in case i am wrong and as such i say that i could be wrong lol
so yeah let us definately debate i am just saying (debating ) we should not innovate just to be different especially where the words are clear
Actually, you are saying things that misguide because you maybe repeating the falsehoods that have been taught without subjecting them to the scrutiny of 1736.
Also, I would remind that the Quran is not a normal textbook...It can totally misguide those who view it through distorted eyes - look at the mess that has been made by "Islamic" states based on their mishmash of what they think the Quran says.
We must seek God to unlock our hearts and minds when reading His words (see 625), and we must always remember that the Quran does have verses which are clear, but others which require deeper study (see 37)
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peace Layth,
Nice to see you posting again.
Have you read these articles
What is the meaning of al masjid al haram according to The Quran?
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.htmlWhat is "al hajj" according to The Quran?
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.htmlSalam Wakas.
Great to see you brother...
Must be the lockdown...I have better energy to write again )
I have had a look at the 2 links.
The Hajj article I agree with to an extent - though not that its location can be changed.
As for the Masjid Al-Haram, I skipped to the summary and saw that its not being viewed as a physical place?
