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Unneccessary & unscientific concept of breast feeding "sisters" in the Quran

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    Recluse
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    I want to respond to the Armenian "genocide" issue which was brought up earlier. There is no such thing. It's a highly politicized issue, the Armenian lobby is no different than the the Zionist lobby. Eastern Anatolia (Turkey) was in a terrible state during world war I. Hundreds of thousands of Turks as well as Armenians and Kurds died as a result of diseases and epidemics and hunger.

    The deportation decision in 1915 during World War I was a security measure to stop the Armenians from cooperating with the foreign forces invading Anatolia. While Ottomans were fighting the invading Russian and European powers Armenian terrorist groups massacred Turkish (mainly Kurdish) civilians indiscriminately. Obviously, Turks (Kurds) retaliated.

    There are so many details indicating that the deportation of Armenians (to Syria) was not a "genocide". There was a railway to Baghdad, which was mainly used for the war. The railway was very busy and could not be used for the Armenian deportation. Turkey was fighting on many fronts against many countries. But despite all this, some Armenians were given train tickets. Clearly, if it was a "genocide" (please look up what genocide means!), they would have never gotten train tickets.

    When Armenians were being deported, some Kurds in eastern Anatolia attacked the Armenians in retaliation. Because Armenian terrorist groups, such as Dashnak, had killed many Kurdish civilians. It had absolutely nothing to do with a centralized Ottoman goverment plan to "exterminate" all Armenians. If the Ottomans had wanted to do this, they could have done it, and there wouldn't be any Armenians today. It is true that some Ottoman soldiers allowed Kurds to attack the Armenians during the deportation, but others were protecting the Armenians and feeding them.

    In some areas, only Gregorian Armenians were deported, while the Protestant and Catholic Armenians were left alone. Again, it was not a planned extermination of Armenians like the Holocaust. Genocide and massacre are two totally different issues. It's much more complicated than people think, which is not surprising, since the Ottoman Empire was collapsing and in a miserable state.

    Also, Britain sent many Ottoman officers (who were accused of "massacres&quot to Malta for trial and British occupying forces searched for evidence everywhere, but they could not find anything. There was no government plan to exterminate Armenians.

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      sarah2505
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      Thanks )

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        Mazhar
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        This thread reminds me that Grand Qur'aan has also classified people from psychological point of view too.

        http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.270.gif
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        And amongst the people is a person whose words about worldly life seem exotic/astounding/ unaccustomed to you and he swears upon Allah on what he has in his heart/mind, and he is obsessively compulsive/excessively argumentative. And when he leaves, he attempts so that he may create disorder/imbalance/distortions/spread wicked, unsound ideas in the society and he divides and rifts the people apart. And Allah does not appreciate/approve the distortions/imbalances/lack of equilibrium. And when it is said for him , "Be mindful, apprehensive of Allah", he is seized and puffed by pride/stubbornness to remain in sin. Therefore Hell is the appropriate place for such a person, and it is a very bad dwelling indeed.

        http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.02.D.204.htm

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          This thread reminds me that Grand Qur'aan has also classified people from psychological point of view too.

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.270.gif
          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.271.gif
          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.272.gif

          And amongst the people is a person whose words about worldly life seem exotic/astounding/ unaccustomed to you and he swears upon Allah on what he has in his heart/mind, and he is obsessively compulsive/excessively argumentative. And when he leaves, he attempts so that he may create disorder/imbalance/distortions/spread wicked, unsound ideas in the society and he divides and rifts the people apart. And Allah does not appreciate/approve the distortions/imbalances/lack of equilibrium. And when it is said for him , "Be mindful, apprehensive of Allah", he is seized and puffed by pride/stubbornness to remain in sin. Therefore Hell is the appropriate place for such a person, and it is a very bad dwelling indeed.

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.02.D.204.htm

          yeah

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            Recluse
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            the Brits will have to bear the additional trouble of their medical needs, they already have stuff like jihadi attacks from these folks to bother about! >

            Britain, as a state, is a far greater threat to Muslims than those few "Muslim" terrorists are to Britain. The British army/state together with their allies are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Let's keep things in perspective. Look at how many Muslims are being killed around the world; Israel, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq and so on. Instead of feeling sorry for the British and the Americans you should feel sorry for the millions of Muslims who are killed.

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              Britain, as a state, is a far greater threat to Muslims than those few Muslim terrorists are to Britain. They (together with their allies) have killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Let's keep things in perspective. Look at how many Muslims are killed around the world. You are a victim of western media.

              I think she is paid by her masters like ibne sina to spread hatred against Muslims.

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                I think she is paid by her masters like ibne sina to spread hatred against Muslims.

                Ibne Sina? rotfl

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                  Ibne Sina? rotfl

                  I?m not talking about bine sina who was born in Bukhara, this one another ibne sina who left Islam and started attacking Islam.

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                    Britain, as a state, is a far greater threat to Muslims than those few "Muslim" terrorists are to Britain. The British army/state together with their allies are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Let's keep things in perspective. Look at how many Muslims are being killed around the world; Israel, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq and so on. Instead of feeling sorry for the British and the Americans you should feel sorry for the millions of Muslims who are killed.

                    All are busy in ridiculous unending game, which has nothing to do with Islam and their religion. A terrorist is neither a Jew, nor Christain and nor a muslim. A terrorist is basically an idiot, a retarded human being who is a slave to someone whom he might not have even seen/known, worst than the "aunt terriorists/suiciders". The game has political and economic motives under the garb and guise of religion. We should feel sorry and sympathetic for every human being, irrespective of religion and nationality who is killed for no fault of him.

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                      All are busy in ridiculous unending game, which has nothing to do with Islam and their religion. A terrorist is neither a Jew, nor Christain and nor a muslim. A terrorist is basically an idiot, a retarded human being who is a slave to someone whom he might not have even seen/known, worst than the "aunt terriorists/suiciders". The game has political and economic motives under the garb and guise of religion. We should feel sorry and sympathetic for every human being, irrespective of religion and nationality who is killed for no fault of him.

                      bravo bravo bravo bravo

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                        People who were breastfed by the same woman as you are off-limits because it's very likely you grew up with them and therefore regard them as siblings. A child will recognize the people it spends the first three years of its life as its kin. Read up on Kin Recognition.

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                          It is interesting that some people are accused of being racist because they are obviously anti-Muslim while no one is ever accused of being racist when they are obviously anti British or anti-American. Just an observation.

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                            It is interesting that some people are accused of being racist because they are obviously anti-Muslim while no one is ever accused of being racist when they are obviously anti British or anti-American. Just an observation.

                            She is not accused of being racist because she is anti muslim, but because she is racist.

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                              It is interesting that some people are accused of being racist because they are obviously anti-Muslim while no one is ever accused of being racist when they are obviously anti British or anti-American. Just an observation.

                              well said, and good observation.

                              She is not accused of being racist because she is anti muslim, but because she is racist.

                              do you know her personally?

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                                She is not accused of being racist because she is anti muslim, but because she is racist.

                                Well, maybe I'm a little sensitive and defensive of both the UK and USA, as a "Brit" living in America I can honestly say that I feel both are very misjudged and misunderstood (the people, not the governments) and some of the posts I read on this thread were very insulting to both. I agree that some were very insulting to Pakistanis and others too. No one should insult any nationality until they have lived in their country and understand their way of life, and not even then.

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                                  All are busy in ridiculous unending game, which has nothing to do with Islam and their religion. A terrorist is neither a Jew, nor Christain and nor a muslim. A terrorist is basically an idiot, a retarded human being who is a slave to someone whom he might not have even seen/known, worst than the "aunt terriorists/suiciders". The game has political and economic motives under the garb and guise of religion. We should feel sorry and sympathetic for every human being, irrespective of religion and nationality who is killed for no fault of him.

                                  Terrorism is evil and so are terrorists no matter who's side they are on.

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                                    Terrorism is evil and so are terrorists no matter who's side they are on.

                                    yes, terrorist individuals, terrorist states, all are evil.

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                                      Well, maybe I'm a little sensitive and defensive of both the UK and USA, as a "Brit" living in America I can honestly say that I feel both are very misjudged and misunderstood (the people, not the governments) and some of the posts I read on this thread were very insulting to both. I agree that some were very insulting to Pakistanis and others too. No one should insult any nationality until they have lived in their country and understand their way of life, and not even then.

                                      No one is against American or British peoples they are against the policies of those governments, but then you are not from this region and you are not affected so you will not understand why the ppls of this region are against them ( The government not peoples ) police

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                                        No one is against American or British peoples they are against the policies of those governments, but then you are not from this region and you are not affected so you will not understand why the ppls of this region are against them ( The government not peoples ) police

                                        So why do they blow people up instead of doing things the sensible way through elections and lobbying politicians? (and I am not just talking about your region).

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                                          So why do they blow people up instead of doing things the sensible way through elections and lobbying politicians? (and I am not just talking about your region).

                                          Who are they??

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