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    herbman
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    Hello all,

    I found this article on the definition of verb SALAH (Sad-LAM-WAW), here is a summary

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    http//www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=46135

    translation

    We have received words in AL Quran including a user manuals verbs/actions (capable, teach, witness, hear and see, be aware of, be responsible, and take account). These words means "SALAH". The one who "SALAH" ,is the one who hear, see, is aware of, is responsible, teach and witness and takes accounts....

    Please read the article and help translate the interresting parts.

    Regards

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      Wakas
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      peace,

      For me, the breakthrough that led to my current understanding of "salat" came when someone pointed out to me the implied definition of the word in 7531-32

      Chapter 75

      1. For he did not confirm (saddaqa*) nor go/turned towards (salla).
      2. But he denied (kaththaba) and went/turned away (tawalla). **

      Source http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/slw.htm

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        herbman
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        peace,

        For me, the breakthrough that led to my current understanding of "salat" came when someone pointed out to me the implied definition of the word in 7531-32
        Source http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/slw.htm

        Salam, Peace,

        Yes I have read your article, so how would you translate "salat" is act of "go/turned towards"????

        For me it is not totaly right, I tried to use that definition and is some cases it just doensn/t make sense. As simple example try to replace it in 2238! Makes no sense at all!

        Another point is, does SALAT has only one and exclusive meaning?

        ps have you read the article, that guy has lot of other interesting articles http//www.ahewar.org/m.asp?i=879
        I dont know him, if someone has any info?

        Peace

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          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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          For me it is not totaly right, I tried to use that definition and is some cases it just doensn/t make sense. As simple example try to replace it in 2238! Makes no sense at all!

          Read reply 17 @ http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7727.15

          Another point is, does SALAT has only one and exclusive meaning?

          I'd say that "going/turning towards" is always implied with "slw". We could use "bond", "attachment", "commitment", etc. for "salat". It doesnt really matter, as long as it is linked to the basic meaning.

          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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            herbman
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            Read reply 17 @ http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7727.15

            I'd say that "going/turning towards" is always implied with "slw". We could use "bond", "attachment", "commitment", etc. for "salat". It doesnt really matter, as long as it is linked to the basic meaning.

            Peace,

            Yes I checked the link, thanks btw.
            But Wakas didn't use "going/turning towards" but "bonds/affirmations" which I agree with it.

            The link I provided was just for information as it is in arabic and give an interresting point of view, meaning arabic people are starting to question themselve.

            Peace

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Yes I checked the link, thanks btw.
              But Wakas didn't use "going/turning towards" but "bonds/affirmations" which I agree with it.

              That's why I said

              We could use "bond", "attachment", "commitment", etc. for "salat". It doesnt really matter, as long as it is linked to the basic meaning.

              Peace

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Wakas
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                salla is the verb, the action, hence "going/turning towards".

                salat is the noun.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  herbman
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                  salla is the verb, the action, hence "going/turning towards".

                  salat is the noun.

                  Yes I know thanks.

                  Can anyone help with this verse

                  4103

                  about "Kitaban mawquta" can someone develop what these nuns are gender/state/singular or plural etc...

                  thanks

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                    san
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                    This might help, very useful tool

                    http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=4&verse=103

                    (tipped from another thread)

                    Peace

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                      herbman
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                      This might help, very useful tool

                      http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=4&verse=103

                      (tipped from another thread)

                      Peace

                      Thanks, indeed very usefull tool.

                      Peace

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