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Was Exhalted Prophet really inconsiderate?

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    san
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    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/093.%20AzZuha/93.07.gif
    And He found you deeply absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality for which reason He thereby showed/guided you to the absolute truth.

    Peace, Mazhar,

    Is that different than what in 17 do?

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      Mazhar
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      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/093.%20AzZuha/93.07.gif
      And He found you deeply absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality for which reason He thereby showed/guided you to the absolute truth.

      Peace, Mazhar,

      Is that different than what in 17 do?

      It is as different as is this different from in 17

      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/007.%20A56.gif
      They are like cattle, no fact of the matter is that rather they are comparatively more ignorant/unmindful/indifferent
      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/007.%20A57.gif
      They are the people who are willfully heedlessly negligent. {refer7179]

      Deep thinking also cuts a man from his surroundings and the onlooker might think he is lost/absorbed in himself

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        san
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        Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179

        Let me withdraw some translations in my previous post

        Surah 93 7

        "And not found you, misguided, then guided"

        Surah 93 8

        "And not found you, poor, then enriched"

        this person referred to as "you" in the sura was an orphan, misguided, and poor.

        "Lost" and "in need" (taken from http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=93&verse=7) may be more accurate than "misguided" and "poor" (taken from "English-Literal" translation)

        Please forgive me for any confusion caused by inaccurate translations above.

        Peace,

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          Mazhar
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          Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179

          Let me withdraw some translations in my previous post

          "Lost" and "in need" (taken from http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=93&verse=7) may be more accurate than "misguided" and "poor" (taken from "English-Literal" translation)

          Please forgive me for any confusion caused by inaccurate translations above.

          Peace,

          The Researcher of above quoted website has told me that they are merely quoting the "translation" picked up from others, for only ease of visitors.

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            Dear San, since you asked , here. It is from root and it does mean erring, going stray or deviating from right course. Please see Lane referance. In addition there is teshdeed on Lam following, Alif suggeting there is a attached here as well and not just

            http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000083.pdf
            Peace,

            Badar

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              Mazhar
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              Dear San, since you asked , here. It is from root and it does mean erring, going stray or deviating from right course. Please see Lane referance. In addition there is teshdeed on Lam following, Alif suggeting there is a attached here as well and not just

              http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000083.pdf
              Peace,

              Badar

              Quote from san on Today at 113315 AM
              Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179

              It is from . Erring, straying etc is the result and the cause is unmindfulness, indifference to the surroundings, non responsive, absorption in something that makes people unmindful as to what is happening around. Straying is by design and will and that is the extreme meaning/eventuality of the Root .

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                san
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                Yes, Daad Lam Lam, i noticed the tashdid hence my question above. OK, so the nuance may not be 'catched' accurately by either 'lost' or 'misguided' but 'lost' seems more fitting than the two. IMO.

                The Researcher of above quoted website has told me that they are merely quoting the "translation" picked up from others, for only ease of visitors.

                I just realized that this morning. Hope they will provide Lane reference.

                Peace.

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                  Mazhar
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                  Yes, Daad Lam Lam, i noticed the tashdid hence my question above. OK, so the nuance may not be 'catched' accurately by either 'lost' or 'misguided' but 'lost' seems more fitting than the two. IMO.

                  But it may be noted that the word is "Active participle". He is doing an act or seeking and what he is doing/seeking has been responded as mentioned at the end of verse, relating to the act done.

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                    san
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                    But it may be noted that the word is "Active participle". He is doing an act or seeking and what he is doing/seeking has been responded as mentioned at the end of verse, relating to the act done.

                    So what do you suggest for a translation that's as short as possible but still retain the nuance adequately?

                    "Pursuing", "Seeking", "Searching"?

                    or if not in a single word, what about

                    "Pursuing/Seeking/Searching until lost"?

                    Peace,

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                      Mazhar
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                      As already stated"

                      "absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality".

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