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Eight Hajj?

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    2827 He said that I desire that I marry you to one my two daughters these two on that you hire to me eight hijajin so if you completed ten so from at you (i.e. up to you)?

    How long was the duration of the two terms?

    If hajj means feast according to some, then 4 feasts/year is 8 feasts in two years.

    Does it seem right asked to work eight feasts and stay on for an extra two feasts?

    Perhaps if the employer was asking as an example to manage 8/10 wedding banquet receptions.

    Or was it eight time-lengths (years for example) and asked to stay on an extra two?

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      Peace,

      After pondering and seeking guidance from God the answer finally came to me; last night was watching an interesting documentary about nomads and their yearly migration north in the mountains to better pastures which the main characters was an old man and his daughters. It was an arduous journey and the one daughter said she wishes she could help her father more since he was old and her being female.

      eight hijajin -- eight migrations or twice a year for 4 years they migrate with all their animals and possessions between pastures in the spring up to the mountains and back down again in the fall.

      so if you completed ten so from at you (i.e. up to you)?

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        Peace,

        Interesting. might link well to hajj verses. Thanks for the topic. How long did they stay in the north/mountains before going back?

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          They stayed a few months to escape the summer heat then headed back which reminded me a lot of the story with the old man and his daughters especially the younger girl thinking it would be nice to have a man around to help out -- a bit romantic same as in Qur'an ... ;D

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            They stayed a few months to escape the summer heat then headed back which reminded me a lot of the story with the old man and his daughters especially the younger girl thinking it would be nice to have a man around to help out -- a bit romantic same as in Qur'an ... ;D

            A couple of thousand years gone by and still the same life -- romantic, indeed ... nomads eh? -[ -[ handshake

            A few months... four months?

            Peace

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              Peace Nun,

              Thank you for brining up this importan question.

              After pondering and seeking guidance from God the answer finally came to me; last night was watching an interesting documentary about nomads and their yearly migration north in the mountains to better pastures which the main characters was an old man and his daughters. It was an arduous journey and the one daughter said she wishes she could help her father more since he was old and her being female.

              eight hijajin -- eight migrations or twice a year for 4 years they migrate with all their animals and possessions between pastures in the spring up to the mountains and back down again in the fall.

              so if you completed ten so from at you (i.e. up to you)?

              One major problem. What you are describing is the lifestyle of nomads. Madian was a city. So those were not nomads. They were city dwellers. City dwellers don't migrate every year and abandon their city for half of the year.

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                Peace Ayman,

                Thank you for brining up this importan question.

                One major problem. What you are describing is the lifestyle of nomads. Madian was a city. So those were not nomads. They were city dwellers. City dwellers don't migrate every year and abandon their city for half of the year.

                No problem...

                785 And to Madya/an, (We sent) their brother Shu'aib

                788 The chiefs of those who were arrogant among his people said "We shall certainly drive you out, O Shu'aib, and those who have believed with you from our community (Qaryatin&#257 or else you shall return to our religion." He said "Even though we hate it!?"

                26176 Abu Al-'Aykati -- Dwellers of The Thicket

                26177 When Shu'aib said to them "are you not mindful?

                Al-Madnati -- The City/Town http//www.openburhan.net/ob_w.php?w=21125

                1882 And as for the wall, so it was to two boys, two orphans in the city (Al-Madnati)

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                  Peace Nun,

                  No problem...
                  785 And to Madya/an, (We sent) their brother Shu'aib
                  788 The chiefs of those who were arrogant among his people said "We shall certainly drive you out, O Shu'aib, and those who have believed with you from our community (Qaryatin&#257 or else you shall return to our religion." He said "Even though we hate it!?"
                  26176 Abu Al-'Aykati -- Dwellers of The Thicket
                  26177 When Shu'aib said to them "are you not mindful?
                  Al-Madnati -- The City/Town http//www.openburhan.net/ob_w.php?w=21125
                  1882 And as for the wall, so it was to two boys, two orphans in the city (Al-Madnati)

                  Exactly, farming communities who tend to crops and fruit trees are not nomadic. So "eight" feasts will depend on how many harvest feasts they had in a year. If they had 1 then it is 8 years. If they had 2 then it is 4 years. Most communities have 1-2 harvest feasts per year. They typically have a harvest feast in mid summer to celebrate first fruits and then another one in early fall at the end of the growing season. Those feasts coincide with the full-moons. The early fall one is the main one. My understanding from the great reading is that there are three opportunities to have the feast on the three full-moons from mid-summer to early fall. Communites can select which one or more of these to have their harvest feast on.

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

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