The worship and adoration of a deity, is a mental confusion.
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Salaam,
the 114 Surah, is now posted on servant of the light, and below, if you would like to read the other Surah's translated follow the link posted at the end.
An-Nus
(Historically People or Mankind or Humanity.)
Surah 1141
Make known, I seek protection and preservation with (the guidance of) my Sustainer, Fosterer, Maintainer and Accomplisher from all mental confusion.
Surah 1142
What for you, is the mental confusion?
Surah 1143
The worship and adoration of a deity, that is the mental confusion.
Surah 1144
This becomes the basis of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness. Which prompts what is vain and destitute of good. Falling backwards in (knowledge) and lagging behind (in social development) as a result.
Surah 1145
All who become vain and destitute of good? Will return back to mental confusion.
Surah 1146
Like the ones in the state that creates a loss of reason and unsoundness of mind or intellect; resulting in all possible mental confusions.
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/124/157/
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WTF?! No really.
How do you come up with this?
If anything, this translation is a product of mental confusion.giveup
This does not appear to be a question in true spirit of learning. If it is, please let us know, would be more than happy to explain.
Peace.
Badar
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I have been in touch with a respected member of this forum regarding An-Nus, via private mail. Every human is worthy of respect, but this member is more so, due his good understanding of Arabic language. I am bringing this critique in public domain, as this is, where it belongs to. This due sensitivity of issues involved. This further highlights that task is even harder than thought. I am not going to disclose name of the respected member, due private communication. Due to some personal engagements; I will let it be here for few days, before commenting and explaining further. Please feel free in the mean time to comment based on linguistics/grammar of 1141 until then.
?I disagree with your translationo of as well as naas.
For Naas I suggest you read http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000121.pdf
Please do not jump to conclusion. Nothing about mental confusion is stated in that definition.
As for . It is 'to say,' whether you proclaim it or make it clear depends on the context. But the word is 'say'. There are other words for 'making known', pronouncing or proclaiming.
You cannot translate
'Make known, I seek protection and preservation with (the guidance of) my Sustainer, Fosterer, Maintainer and Accomplisher from all mental confusion.'
What I have italicized is especially wrong. in the last part not only is the translation of naas unacceptable but there is no preposition in front of it in the Arabic. Rabbinnaasi is a possessive phrase and you have totally ignored that fact.
Please do not take on the endeavor of trying to translate the Quran with limited knowledge of Arabic. You will just end up twisting it.?
Peace,
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Peace,
Let us analyze the above verse. I am going to take into account that lot of readers are just like me. That is, not very familiar with Arabic language and it?s grammar. Hence, I shall keep this discourse simple and easy.The issue on hand is the analysis of Arabic Syntax. That is to say the task of translating an Arabic sentence and its order into English. In Arabic there are only two types of sentences.
- Nominal sentence or in Arabic
- Verbal sentence or
Now just like in English there two major part of a sentence in Arabic as well; ?A Subject? or and ?The Predicate? or .
Now both Subject and predicate could be either one word or combination of two words; resulting in four different possible combination order of sentences.
- Where both Subject and predicate are single word each.
- Either Subject is a compound of two or.
- Predicate is a compound of two.
- Both are compound of two words.
The compounds of two words could be two types. In an incomplete sentence, full meaning is not conveyed just by meanings of constituent words and is dependent on something to complete the meanings. In Arabic called ;
And a complete sentence conveying full meanings, called .
Now lets us apply this little knowledge to above verse.
, has two words a personal pronoun, meaning ?I?, followed by a noun . As a result this sentence would be classified as Nominal sentence. This noun means ?seeking protection?. It is a verbal noun. Means indicates happening of a work without indications of time/tense.Now next question would be protection from what? This should be explained in the Predicate of the sentence.
This is followed by a predicate which is a compound predicate without conveying full meanings by itself in Arabic a . This is .
The first part of this compound is a combination of a preposition and a noun could be separated into could have several meanings depending upon context.
Next in order is root meaning ?sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher?
Finally a noun derived from root in Lane meaning ?commotion (meaning mental confusion in modern English), going to and fro?. It is made from a common noun to a proper noun by addition of a definite article ?Al? making it .
http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume8/00000120.pdf
Now let us just literally translate this compound Predicate or of subject
=With, sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher, and = The, commotion or mental confusion.
Now we can clearly see that this word compound by itself does not convey the complete meaning as ?With the sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher, the mental confusion?.However, if we add the meanings of subject, it starts making more sense.
?I take protection, (from what) the mental confusion, with sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher?.
However, since both words in the predicate are in ?Possessive case? . Hence, meaning should change further as follows.?Make it know, I take protection from mental confusion with my sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher?.
Why did I do it little different last time? Just because, I am trying to follow word order for beginners, like myself.
Finally for this ?Rabbinnaasi is a possessive phrase and you have totally ignored that fact.? Brother you are just stuck with Tajwaeed. It is a rule based on Idgham of Tajwaeed. I am very sure you know it well, hence no need explaining. This does not affect meanings at all.
May Rabb bless all.
Badar
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Due lack of any responses; it seems like either everyone understood my rudimentary explanation or else no one cares. In either case, instead of having interactive learning dialogue. I will have to unilaterally continue to give explanation to best of my knowledge at present. Rest shall depend on future learning.
My respected friend also objected on meanings of first word saying that it?s meaning is ?Say?. In my explanation, I did not even address this. This due, I was still trying to enhance my understanding of this commonly used word in AlKitab. This word is a verbal noun, imperative, singular 2 muscular from root . This verbal root is what Arab grammarians call as verbs of heart or i.e., which signify an act that takes place in the mind. Commonly it is thought to just mean as ?to say?. However, realistically it is as a verb of mind should mean ?think and then say?. This is the real complete meaning of this verbal root.
Now let us apply the above knowledge of the grammatical form to this meaning. It will mean ?you better think and then say?. This whole phrase is now the Subject or of the above verse or sentence, which we decided already as noun sentence. However, we are changing the subject of the sentence. This would also change the Predicate of above sentence. Now the whole becomes the ?Predicate or of the Subject. This kind of predicate IS called ?annexed compound or in Arabic
Now since we have introduced another term . Let us briefly explain what it means? It is compound of word know in English as sentence. The first noun is called ?the annexed? in Arabic and the determining noun, that to which annexation is made. This type of compound could have two or more nouns. If there are only two noun, first is and is identified as in ?nominative? or . Identified by mark of dumma. Where as , is always in possessive or genitive case or . My purpose is not to make it too complicated for novice. Hence, with out going into further detail. Let us with explanation given for the first word; translate this verse.
?You better think and then say; with my Rabb (meaning sustainer, maintainer, foster and accomplisher), I seek preservation and protection from all the mental confusion?.
Peace, if there would be any further interest, I shall continue. Otherwise, this is very time consuming. However, this much is done just to show the skeptics that this translation is not due to a mental confusion. But actually is a result of harmony and peace of mind. In addition is based on solid linguistic reasons and logic. Albeit, may not be perfect. Yet enough to prove the point, that how far drifted, our current understanding of the real message is? So please if you understand this come back to AlKitab. The only basis of Islam, join hands to bring AlKitab, back to its original shape and understanding.
May Rabb bless all.
Badar -
Salaam,
the 114 Surah, is now posted on servant of the light, and below, if you would like to read the other Surah's translated follow the link posted at the end.
An-Nus
(Historically People or Mankind or Humanity.)
Surah 1141
Make known, I seek protection and preservation with (the guidance of) my Sustainer, Fosterer, Maintainer and Accomplisher from all mental confusion.
Surah 1142
What for you, is the mental confusion?
Surah 1143
The worship and adoration of a deity, that is the mental confusion.
Surah 1144
This becomes the basis of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness. Which prompts what is vain and destitute of good. Falling backwards in (knowledge) and lagging behind (in social development) as a result.
Surah 1145
All who become vain and destitute of good? Will return back to mental confusion.
Surah 1146
Like the ones in the state that creates a loss of reason and unsoundness of mind or intellect; resulting in all possible mental confusions.
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/124/157/
I have read it many times and I am not an expert in Arabic, but what is written in English, underneath the Arabic text, and cross referencing it with Lanes, it appears all so true and correct. Especially the last sentence is so reflective of our current status.
Peace
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Dear all based upon improved linguistic understanding. This how one very important Sura is understood. All comments and critiques will be greatly appreciated.
Badar
An-Nus
(Historically People or Mankind or Humanity.)
Surah 1141
Think with your mind, and then make it manifest in your words and actions; that ?I seek protection and preservation from all the mental confusion with my fosterer, maintainer, nourisher and accomplisher.
Surah 1142
What is for you, the mental confusion?
Surah 1143
A deity for adoration and worship is the mental confusion.
Surah 1144
This mental confusion is, what makes one exceed due limits, so a wrongdoer, unjust, corrupt and wicked. This is the reason for one to go backwards and be held behind; just like a minds whisper, prompting that which is vain, unprofitable and destitute of good.
Surah 1145
Whomever falls back into melancholia, prompting that which is vain, unprofitable and destitute of good, is just like those, who returned back to the mental confusion.
Surah 1146
These are the ones among you concealing and veiling from their senses, above mentioned facts and hence, are in the mental confusion.
Abdun Nur
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/95/126/
Badar -
Bismillahi Ar-Rahmaani Ar-Raheem
I seek refuge with Allah who IS a god,
From mental confusion of Abdun Nur
Who keeps insisting Allah is not a God
Despite Quran saying 'And your Ilah is One Ilah No God but He the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful
and who keeps playing with the Arabic language.
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Dear all based upon improved linguistic understanding. This how one very important Sura is understood. All comments and critiques will be greatly appreciated.
Badar
An-Nus
(Historically People or Mankind or Humanity.)
Surah 1141
Think with your mind, and then make it manifest in your words and actions; that ?I seek protection and preservation from all the mental confusion with my fosterer, maintainer, nourisher and accomplisher.
Surah 1142
What is for you, the mental confusion?
Surah 1143
A deity for adoration and worship is the mental confusion.
Surah 1144
This mental confusion is, what makes one exceed due limits, so a wrongdoer, unjust, corrupt and wicked. This is the reason for one to go backwards and be held behind; just like a minds whisper, prompting that which is vain, unprofitable and destitute of good.
Surah 1145
Whomever falls back into melancholia, prompting that which is vain, unprofitable and destitute of good, is just like those, who returned back to the mental confusion.
Surah 1146
These are the ones among you concealing and veiling from their senses, above mentioned facts and hence, are in the mental confusion.
Abdun Nur
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/95/126/
Badarseems like based on mental confusion confused
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My respected friend also objected on meanings of first word saying that it?s meaning is ?Say?. In my explanation, I did not even address this. This due, I was still trying to enhance my understanding of this commonly used word in AlKitab. This word is a verbal noun, imperative, singular 2 muscular from root . This verbal root is what Arab grammarians call as verbs of heart or i.e., which signify an act that takes place in the mind. Commonly it is thought to just mean as ?to say?. However, realistically it is as a verb of mind should mean ?think and then say?. This is the real complete meaning of this verbal root.
Definitions
verbs of the heart ? those multi-transitive verbs, two of whose objects were originally topic and comment
The main rule regarding verbs of the heart is that the two objects which were originally components of a nominal sentence must either be mentioned together or omitted together; one cannot be mentioned without the other.
http//www.learnarabiconline.com/verbal-sentences.shtml
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1141 SAY "I seek refuge with the Sustainer of men, -
1142 "the Sovereign of men, -
1143 "the God of men, -
1144 "from the evil of the whispering, elusive tempter -
1145 "who whispers in the hearts of men -
1146 "from all invisible forces as well as men," -Has anyone seen the servantoflight website and it's explanations?
If anyone wants to speed up their mental confusion and check into a Psychiatric unit. This dude Abdhun Nur and the website will speed up the process for you. I kid you not.
One word comes to mind.........Schizophrenia!
Peace
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Definitions
verbs of the heart ? those multi-transitive verbs, two of whose objects were originally topic and comment
The main rule regarding verbs of the heart is that the two objects which were originally components of a nominal sentence must either be mentioned together or omitted together; one cannot be mentioned without the other.
http//www.learnarabiconline.com/verbal-sentences.shtml
Peace, I want to thank and congratulate you Mazhar for the first time coming up with a linguistic objection. Lets us discuss this quote further. Please, elaborate on this definition as well give some examples, if you would for better understanding; as this definition appears very vague.
For all, the translations are exclusively mine, as far from Arabic to English is concerned. Abdun Nur's help is used with English syntax only. So, please no low blows for him.
Badar
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1141 SAY "I seek refuge with the Sustainer of men, -
1142 "the Sovereign of men, -
1143 "the God of men, -
1144 "from the evil of the whispering, elusive tempter -
1145 "who whispers in the hearts of men -
1146 "from all invisible forces as well as men," -Has anyone seen the servantoflight website and it's explanations?
If anyone wants to speed up their mental confusion and check into a Psychiatric unit. This dude Abdhun Nur and the website will speed up the process for you. I kid you not.
One word comes to mind......... Schizophrenia!
PeaceI've said this word before you and now you have just proved that I was right .
thanks Zulu .
one more thing Abdhun Nur I think you did a great efforts to explain the verses but sorry to say that your explanation is wrong, neither the rules of Arabic language correct.
by the way the " " never starts by "" as I saw from your explanation .
this is the rel explanation of the sura
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Say I seek refuge with the Lord and Cherisher of Mankind,
The King (or Ruler) of Mankind,
The God (or Judge) of Mankind,
From the mischief of the Whisperer (of Evil), who withdraws (after his whisper),
(The same) who whispers into the hearts of Mankind,
Among Jinns and among Men. -
Peace, I want to thank and congratulate you Mazhar for the first time coming up with a linguistic objection. Lets us discuss this quote further. Please, elaborate on this definition as well give some examples, if you would for better understanding; as this definition appears very vague.
For all, the translations are exclusively mine, as far from Arabic to English is concerned. Abdun Nur's help is used with English syntax only. So, please no low blows for him.
Badar
I merely gave a link of on line grammer facility since it appeared to me little vague;
My respected friend also objected on meanings of first word saying that it?s meaning is ?Say?. In my explanation, I did not even address this. This due, I was still trying to enhance my understanding of this commonly used word in AlKitab. This word is a verbal noun, imperative, singular 2 muscular from root . This verbal root is what Arab grammarians call as verbs of heart or i.e., which signify an act that takes place in the mind. Commonly it is thought to just mean as ?to say?. However, realistically it is as a verb of mind should mean ?think and then say?. This is the real complete meaning of this verbal root.
One can pronounce to others only that thing/idea-Hadith which is already saved in his memory from where he litterally cuts to eventually throw it out from his mouth by articulating the sound in speech with the help of articulators in his mouth, basically tongue and lips which becomes what is called Qaul.
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Reformeropined One word comes to mind......... Schizophrenia!
Peace
I've said this word before you and now you have just proved that I was right .thanks Zulu .
Schizophrenia, severe mental illness characterized by a variety of symptoms, including loss of contact with reality, bizarre behavior, disorganized thinking and speech, decreased emotional expressiveness, and social withdrawal.