The worship and adoration of a deity, is a mental confusion.
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Dear Badar Salam.
You really send me back to school, all what i am saying is that please keep the consistency with "Arabic script" of Al-Qur'aan.
I had known of the scientific marvelous of Arabic as the language, but to know that one Noun changes in sound waves and writing 64 ways was really a new knowledge for me and I thank you for that.
The word at hand was "Al-Naas" which according to you used to be An-Nus, and then you came back, i went through Lanes dictionary, and you are right "Noon, Wao, Seen" dangling is there, but he goes on further to relate the term NAAS to ANS, as well.
After going through your arabic grammar book, i agree with most of your elaborations about Maliki.
But when and how all this is going to help us.
Read this article last night by A. Y. Mol (Now Professor) thoroughly enjoyed it, just sharing.
ref http//www.toluislam.com/index.pl/parwez?wid=154&func=viewSubmission&sid=1616.
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Peace,
Respectfully.I got this neighbor who sometimes borrows me the internet. I've asked him many times things regarding the trinity and prophet/messenger of God Jesus and he simply shows me the signs of being brainwashed. When i try going step by step with him regarding Jesus, he starts laughing like i'm telling a joke. I ask him who is Jesus and he says, god. Then he quickly adds that he's also god's son. Then i ask how is hat possible, how can he be his own son and he laughs it off.
There, mental confusion.
When i showed him the verse in The Bible regarding dashing the babies against the rock and killing all that breathes he accuses me of taking things to literally but he is in no way shy when it comes to quoting TV where he heard that jihad means to explode in the midst of nonmuslims and getting - according to him - only 12 virgins. I'm just waiting until some sunni first corrects him that there are 72 virgins in the sunni paradise but it doesn't matter, even though i have told him what jihad really means and that suicide is sin and that Paradise, the real one, contains unlimited virgins and not 12.
Peace.
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Dear Badar Salam.
You really send me back to school, all what i am saying is that please keep the consistency with "Arabic script" of Al-Qur'aan.
Dear Nadir, It is not a consistent script, but that is the fact. I am not even touching this issue. When people are brain washed into thinking that this script is same as word of Rabb, as it is. How come they are going to accept the thruth.
Here is answer to a friend on another forum, I just gave. It is relavant for this discussion as well.
Difference between Deception and Conviction
Deception, is a noun derive from verb "deceive". Meaning, to be false, fail to fulfill, to cause to accept as true or valid, what is false or invalid.
Conviction, is judgment based upon irrefutable proof.
Based upon proof from limited exploration of book popularly known AlQuan. I bear witness that, this book is beyond human creativity and transcends barriers of time and space. With the added qualifier, not the translations written underneath Arabic text but the text itself.
But when and how all this is going to help us.
The day we will start to help ourselves to get out from deception (in translation underneath) to conviction (irrefutable proof above). We need all of it, not just bits and pieces. My meager alone efforts are not enough in this respect.
Peace,
Badar
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Peace be upon you all,
Yes, the Worship of a diety is indeed mental confusion. God is itself unperceiveable. It expresses itself through the malaika. The malaikas give us what we call today personality complexes or attributes. Our job is to do away with our personality complexes and create a personality based on God's personality. We cultivate the attributes of God, not worship IT. Begging God for things is a foolish concept, and that is mental confusion. Cultivating a God Like personality is what we are to do and the concept called SALAAT is how we cultivate these attributes.
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Peace be upon you all,
Whoever is here representing "Servant of Light" website...I appreciate your thinking process and I would like you to join me in a discussion on salaat over at the salaat thread. In particular, lets discuss in in the thread I started called "salaat=programming/conditioning" as I have listed all the verses containing salaat and my understanding. I too use the brainwave patterns as verification of my understanding, and I too understand that the goal is to create a Godlike personality, so I think we can have a healthy and respectful discussion. Lastly, while I feel that open discussion(hajja) and not arguing(jidala) is best, we can have a private conversation if you like as well.
Peace.
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Peace be upon you,
I joined the servant of light forum, so perhaps we can discuss it there also without much distraction
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Peace be upon you all,
Yes, the Worship of a diety is indeed mental confusion. God is itself unperceiveable. It expresses itself through the malaika. The malaikas give us what we call today personality complexes or attributes. Our job is to do away with our personality complexes and create a personality based on God's personality. We cultivate the attributes of God, not worship IT. Begging God for things is a foolish concept, and that is mental confusion. Cultivating a God Like personality is what we are to do and the concept called SALAAT is how we cultivate these attributes.
My salutes to you, for getting close to the real concept of Salaat. But please remember, the book popularly know as AlQuran is a huge document. Understanding one word or verse does not solve the problem. We need to understand all of it to find out, what is in works for us. This is, what our meager efforts are directed at.
Peace,
Badar
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Peace be upon you,
My salutes to you, for getting close to the real concept of Salaat. But please remember, the book popularly know as AlQuran is a huge document. Understanding one word or verse does not solve the problem. We need to understand all of it to find out, what is in works for us. <<<<
I could not agree more, and I add that we must understand It (the document you speak of) and that which came before it (as we are told in it). We must understand life itself, and the science to say that we understand, that we know. We must be able to objectively verify it, and that is how we know that we know. o)
This is, what our meager efforts are directed at.<<<
I applaud you and hope I can offer support to the effort. I hope that you will read my explanation and a healthy discussion with me. I have already started to read your site.