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Some more challenge for Arab linguists

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    bkanwar2
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    My question to all, who claim to know Arabic as language, is as follows.

    What does word conceptually means? I am going to elaborate further, since some friends feel, I am trying to play games with them. May be I know answer already and trying to make others look bad or else this is some sort of a fight. I can assure them, that it is neither.

    What I am asking is NOT, how this term is used in grammar as a term. But my question pertains to more the concept of this word based upon its root. Why was this chosen by masters of grammar over any other xyz word as term to describe? What it describes? Because, when I looked up meanings of root, it opens up lot of avenues in understanding. I am just putting up this query, in pure learning spirit. Hence, I am elaborating it, as well. I would appreciate comments with ones own understanding or based upon learning; if needed I would be happy to further elaborate on my part, about query itself or understanding on my part.

    Peace,

    Badar

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      zulu12
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      Dear bkanwar2

      With all due respect and I mean all due respect, get a grip of yourself. Some of the stuff (dribble) you put out on this Forum along with your buddy abdhur nur confuses yourself, let alone other members.

      If you really have a problem understanding an Arabic word, catch a flight, go to Saudi Arabia, find a specialist in Quranic Arabic and ask him/her in person. Job done.

      Stop confusing the sh@@ out of yourself and others. I am sure you have no problem understanding the language I have just spoken and you don't need Lanes Lexicon to work my words out.

      Peace

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        Thereformer1
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        Please share your understanding as to word is a noun or verb? or else it is neither of these two. Thanks in advance.

        Badar

        is a noun .

        is a verb .

        the noun is totally different comparing to the verb, and no relation between both of them.

        the verb means "to refuse" or "to reject"

        the noun is " " and it means "my father" .

        your question ends here and take it as read .

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          bkanwar2
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          Dear bkanwar2

          With all due respect and I mean all due respect, get a grip of yourself. Some of the stuff (dribble) you put out on this Forum along with your buddy abdhur nur confuses yourself, let alone other members.

          If you really have a problem understanding an Arabic word, catch a flight, go to Saudi Arabia, find a specialist in Quranic Arabic and ask him/her in person. Job done.

          Stop confusing the sh@@ out of yourself and others. I am sure you have no problem understanding the language I have just spoken and you don't need Lanes Lexicon to work my words out.

          Peace

          Dear Zulu12, you know any one there who even talks about; what is not according to doctrines of Kingdumb, let alone to teach something. If you do, please share his/her where abouts.

          is a noun .

          is a verb .

          the noun is totally different comparing to the verb, and no relation between both of them.

          the verb means "to refuse" or "to reject"

          the noun is " " and it means "my father" .

          your question ends here and take it as read .

          Please share your referances.

          Peace,

          Badar

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            Thereformer1
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            Please share your referances.
            Peace,
            Badar

            I am Arabic , and the language is in my vains, I even made poem "classical ones" you'll not understand a word from them.

            did I say to you what does "he" means ? or give share your reference of "he" and its meaning ? get real.

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              zulu12
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              Dear bkanwar2

              Now you claim that no one in KSA speaks Arabic or understands Quranic Arabic and everything is a concocted 'kingdumbness' with no teachers, is not surprising in the least considering you are someone who doesn't even acknowledge the term God in any language and believes there is no God but you want to study about God!

              Do you even accept that the Arabic language even exists, or is it just a figment of your imagination?

              Why don't you for once share your references rather than asking everyone else for theirs.

              Here, I'll share my reference for the nonsense that comes out your mouth.

              Main Entry non?sense
              Pronunciation \n?n-sen(t)s, n?n(t)-sn(t)s
              Function noun
              Date 1614

              1 a words or language having no meaning or conveying no intelligible ideas b (1) language, conduct, or an idea that is absurd or contrary to good sense (2) an instance of absurd action
              2 a things of no importance or value trifles b affected or impudent conduct <took no nonsense from subordinates>

              Source - Merriam Webster Dictionary

              Peace

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                bkanwar2
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                Dear bkanwar2

                Now you claim that no one in KSA speaks Arabic or understands Quranic Arabic and everything is a concocted 'kingdumbness' with no teachers, is not surprising in the least considering you are someone who doesn't even acknowledge the term God in any language and believes there is no God but you want to study about God!

                Do you even accept that the Arabic language even exists, or is it just a figment of your imagination?

                Why don't you for once share your references rather than asking everyone else for theirs.

                Here, I'll share my reference for the nonsense that comes out your mouth.

                Main Entry non?sense
                Pronunciation \n?n-sen(t)s, n?n(t)-sn(t)s
                Function noun
                Date 1614

                1 a words or language having no meaning or conveying no intelligible ideas b (1) language, conduct, or an idea that is absurd or contrary to good sense (2) an instance of absurd action
                2 a things of no importance or value trifles b affected or impudent conduct <took no nonsense from subordinates>

                Source - Merriam Webster Dictionary

                Peace

                No generalities please. Be specific, what references you are looking from me. Go and look most of my post they are backed up mostly by references whenever needed or asked for. Which particular reference do you need? I would we happy to give to you. Would you then accept the truth based upon verification or continue your ancestor?s ways?

                Peace,

                Badar

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                  zulu12
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                  Dear bkanwar2

                  Please give me the English translation and meaning of 'God' and then give me a breakdown of why all translators of the Quran in English have used this term 'God' and why you are right and they are wrong.

                  Also give me your personal translation of the Quran from Arabic to English which you have personally carried out and has been verified as correct by independent 3rd parties and is currently in mass circulation.

                  P.S. Include all references for the above.

                  Peace

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                    Abdun_Nur
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                    Salaam Bkanwar2,

                    Zulu12 is a flamer, as their called on the internet, they only have interest in pointless, thoughtless arguments, they wish people to waste their time in childish and worthless name calling, I have him set to ignore on the forum, the best thing to do with flamers is to ignore their insanity.

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                      zulu12
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                      Dear Abdhun Nur

                      Oh my God. The dead has spoken. I was wondering when the servant of confusion was going to make an appearance. Have you closed down the website yet?

                      'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me'.

                      Do you have any concept what the above phrase means? No, it does not mean that the ice cream van is down the street and I need a dollar to get one otherwise the moon is going to bounce on earth and just miss my house!

                      Buddy. Don't hate.

                      Give your partner in crime a hand, or get back into the straitjacket.

                      Peace

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