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did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

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    abdalquran
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    And what about this

    (33/43)

    Am I going to say 'Allahumma salli 3ala thereformer'?

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      Thereformer1
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      peace
      Glorifying Mohammed

      well, I've read this nonsense from this guy, and I've laughed because he doesn't know what the the meanings of the Arabic words, it was a waste of time reading his crap .

      he can't differ the word "Salla" in the sentence so how he came to that conclusion ? I bet he knew how

      Salla is an old word, and it was common before the call of Islam, and it means glorify . people used to say this word before to their gods and to their leaders . and it was by its negative statement "La Salla Alayka Alihatona" and it means " our gods repulsive you " hahahah anyway it was funny to read his creepy approach

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        Thereformer1
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        And what about this

        (33/43)
        Am I going to say 'Allahumma salli 3ala thereformer'?

        Amine , that if you do know the difference between Salla in this sentence and salla in the other one.

        anayways Salla in this sentence means God by his Mercy and by his blessings, and for the angles the salla are their good callings for the believers and good-doers .

        so after saying things, know the meanings first.

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          abdalquran
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          Lol both are the same word, yusalli.

          Yet because your ulema think Allah needs Arabic lessons, you say this is something else.

          You will find any excuse to worship the Prophet. Tell me, why do you say 'Allahumma salli 3ala Muhammad'. Are you telling Allah to do this?

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            Mazhar
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            Reply 241 by Reformer

            other than they are lots, the women are the root of every evil on earth.

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            Why are you drafting a lie and call it the Qaul of Allah, moving one step further than Bukhari who attributes his thoughts to the Messenger. Where are these Arabic words in the Qur'aan-refer it.

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              Thereformer1
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              Lol both are the same word, yusalli.

              Hahah, No, you're wrong they are not the same word(the word takes its meanings in the sentence outside it is something else), keep denying the truth, we will see who is right and who is not but after life after death.

              Yet because your ulema think Allah needs Arabic lessons, you say this is something else.

              Allah is not in need of Arabic lessons, but you need those lessons . yes

              You will find any excuse to worship the Prophet. Tell me, why do you say 'Allahumma salli 3ala Muhammad'. Are you telling Allah to do this?

              No, there is no excuse, is the truth( I have no aim of lying to you, or did I?).
              and about "'Allahumma salli 3ala Muhammad'" and your silly question, let me remind first of all that this sentence is not an order to God neither a statements of telling God to do this, It is a call because the prophet has saved us from Hell,and he will save us from Hell>>> hope you understand what I mean ???????.

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                Thereformer1
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                Why are you drafting a lie and call it the Qaul of Allah, moving one step further than Bukhari who attributes his thoughts to the Messenger. Where are these Arabic words in the Qur'aan-refer it.

                what are you talking about ? . you know that the sentence before the verse is totally different from what I stated about the verse.

                hey Mazhar, try to understand my posts, then question me if you do not understand my posts, if you can't do that, don't attack me and leave a beautiful trace behind you.

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                  Leyna
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                  well, I've read this nonsense from this guy, and I've laughed because he doesn't know what the the meanings of the Arabic words, it was a waste of time reading his crap .

                  Well, that's your opinion. To me it makes way more sense than the nonsensical crap some scholars write.

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                    Mazhar
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                    We should GLORIFY the Prophet ?!

                    18/110 Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner

                    Is there anything you believe which is actually from the Quran?

                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/Temp%2001%207.157k.gif
                    Therefore/for reason those who accepted/believed in him and they revered him and helped him
                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/Temp%2001%207.157k%20.gif
                    and they practically followed without there being third party intervention i.e. in letter and spirit "the Visible Light" , the One which was sent from above in one go along with him .
                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/Temp%2001%207.157h.gif
                    They are the people who endeavor for perpetual success/fruitfulness.

                    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/007.%20Al%20Airaaf%20N.htm

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                      Mazhar
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                      what are you talking about ? . you know that the sentence before the verse is totally different from what I stated about the verse.

                      hey Mazhar, try to understand my posts, then question me if you do not understand my posts, if you can't do that, don't attack me and leave a beautiful trace behind you.

                      It seems you even don't feel shy in lying eye to eye. You said this in red and enlarged text

                      ( ) You have called it "Word of Allah". Where is it written?

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                        It seems you even don't feel shy in lying eye to eye. You said this in red and enlarged text
                        ( ) You have called it "Word of Allah". Where is it written?

                        I didn't lie , this is from surat Youssef, verse 28 .

                        So when he saw his shirt, - that it was torn at the back - (her husband) said "Behold! it is a snare of you women! truly, mighty is your snare!

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                          Mazhar
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                          I didn't lie , this is from surat Youssef, verse 28 .

                          So when he saw his shirt, - that it was torn at the back - (her husband) said "Behold! it is a snare of you women! truly, mighty is your snare!

                          This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/12.28.gif
                          On this when he saw his shirt damaged/creased on its back he said,
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                          "Indeed that is a sort of your dissimulation. Indeed your dissimulation is great".

                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/012.%20A%20Yusuf%20alahissalam.htm

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                            Thereformer1
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                            This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

                            hahah very funny, do you have any kind of a mental disease ? / the verse is from Quran, and as we all know that Quran is God's words which is in turn lead us that the quote is from God and that the Qawl/statement is from God but God used a specific type of writing is talking by using " " .

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                              Mazhar
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                              hahah very funny, do you have any kind of a mental disease ? / the verse is from Quran, and as we all know that Quran is God's words which is in turn lead us that the quote is from God and that the Qawl/statement is from God but God used a specific type of writing is talking by using " " .

                              This is exactly how you consider gossip of Bukharis as the Qaul of the Messenger .

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                                This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

                                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/12.28.gif
                                On this when he saw his shirt damaged/creased on its back he said,
                                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/12.28a.gif
                                "Indeed that is a sort of your dissimulation. Indeed your dissimulation is great".

                                actually God is not disapproving what is said by him, quoting him in a situation like this indicates that God doesn't disagree with his statement, so brother thereformer1 is right when he said it is qaul of allah.

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  actually God is not disapproving what is said by him, quoting him in a situation like this indicates that God doesn't disagree with his statement, so brother thereformer1 is right when he said it is qaul of allah.

                                  Earlier than this Allah has quoted the Qaul of this man's wife, would you presume by that quoting that Allah is not disapproving that? Never presume anything which is not stated. Allah quotes exactly as it happened.

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Earlier than this Allah has quoted the Qaul of this man's wife, would you presume by that quoting that Allah is not disapproving that? Never presume anything which is not stated. Allah quotes exactly as it happened.

                                    you are referring to which quote sir?

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                                      Mazhar
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                                      you are referring to which quote sir?

                                      In the quoted Link is the complete Chapter 12. Please see the entire episode.

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                                        other than they are lots, the women are the root of every evil on earth. rotfl

                                        yes, thats why we are allowed to beat them, force them to live in clothed bags and to kill them in the name of honour. root of evil on earth....

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                                          Thereformer1
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                                          yes, thats why we are allowed to beat them, force them to live in clothed bags and to kill them in the name of honour. root of evil on earth....

                                          don't take it literally, I was just kidding .

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