arab conspiracy against islam
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Peace,
The word "a3rab" (alif ayn raa alif baa) in the great reading means "nomads", not "Arabs" as an ethnic group.
9101 From the nomads (ب around you are hypocrites, and from the people of the city.
9120 It is not for the people of the city, nor for the nomads (ب around them, that they should lag behind the messenger of the god.
There are 2 sets of people in there, the nomads of the desert and the people of the city. It clearly defines 2 sets/groups
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It should be noted that Aidid Safar has now changed the title of his book to 'Mental Bondage in the Name of Islam'. He was made aware of the context of 9/97 (which he used to villify the Arabs before). 9/99 reads
But some of al-a3raab believe in Allah and the Last Day, and look on their payments as pious gifts bringing them nearer to Allah and obtaining the prayers of the Messenger. Aye, indeed they bring them nearer (to Him) soon will Allah admit them to His Mercy for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
So even if we do think that these are Arabs, 9/97 is certainly no evidence to villify all Arabs.
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Nice shot man . The book is like reading my mind .
I love this part " It might surprise the reader that those who claim to be the ?Muslims? are professing what is, in fact, an invented Arab religion " . abslutely agree .
Thank you so much .
You agree that islam is an arab invented religion? You expose yourself a hypocrite or a liar more and more. Why do you do that? Don't you understand that sarcasm is a sin as it is a form of lie. Ah wait... he's put me on ignore.
(I'm not arguing against the book... it's obvious enough roll-your-eyes over. It doesn't deserve to be mentioned)
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You agree that islam is an arab invented religion?
No, I've made a mistake, I didn't pay attention to the words . I've just read the first words then I pasted it without seeing the next words . My bad .
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Ah now you are blaming this this inocent creature >.
is Satan innocent ?
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Maybe it was God trying to open his eyes.
I blamed myself because I didn't read the book very well, I've just pointed out some sentences without paying attention to their meanings.
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I blamed myself because I didn't read the book very well, I've just pointed out some sentences without paying attention to their meanings.
You read a small part and automatically assumed it meant 'us' and not 'you'. Now you know it means 'you' you will not read it or have anything to do with it because your eyes are blind and your heart is closed. Allow God to open your eyes and heart and stop following baseless hadith, lies propogated to lead you off the path of God and Truth. I dare you. peace
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You read a small part and automatically assumed it meant 'us' and not 'you'. Now you know it means 'you' you will not read it or have anything to do with it because your eyes are blind and your heart is closed. Allow God to open your eyes and heart and stop following baseless hadith, lies propogated to lead you off the path of God and Truth. I dare you. peace
My eyes and my hearts are open from birth . Look at yourself . Hadith is not lies and of course Hadith brings people to the right path .
Any one rejects Hadith came with a new "Bidh'a".
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My eyes and my hearts are open from birth . Look at yourself . Hadith is not lies and of course Hadith brings people to the right path .
Any one rejects Hadith came with a new "Bidh'a".
hadith bring to the right path? Doesnt God do that in Quran? doesnt God say THIS is the right path and not those who follow others besides Him? You claimed in the other thread that Gods hadith is the best hadith and only truth ??? At least I though what you explained of the verses YOU obviously didnt understand. You are the one bringing Bida, you are the one listening to someone other than God.
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hadith bring to the right path? Doesnt God do that in Quran? doesnt God say THIS is the right path and not those who follow others besides Him? You claimed in the other thread that Gods hadith is the best hadith and only truth ??? At least I though what you explained of the verses YOU obviously didnt understand. You are the one bringing Bida, you are the one listening to someone other than God.
Did you know that your words are also hadeeth... do we reject what you're saying by the assumption? By the way, does that make Miss Bida or Mrs Bida? Or are we still friends?
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Did you know that your words are also hadeeth... do we reject what you're saying by the assumption? By the way, does that make Miss Bida or Mrs Bida? Or are we still friends?
yes of course my words are hadith, as are yours and everyone elses, but I am not saying take my words as part of religion, as part of the message, saying this is something Allah forgot or said in secret to the prophet.
Bida is something added to the religion that Allah did not give. Allah did not give Bukhari hadith nor did he sanction the prophet to give something as part of the religion that wasnt from Allah. The prophet would never have gone against Allah and would never have added to the religion something Allah did not say in Quran. That is why he said NOT to write anything from him BUT QURAN.
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I read in The Qur'an Allah taught Muhammed 'that which he did not know' or something similar to that, so whatever Muhammed was 'teaching' could only have come from Allah what Allah wanted to tell us so why would Muhammed say to do other things that are not in The Qur'an?
So all these sayings and practises of Muhammed that are not mentioned in The Qur'an cannot be authorized and taught by Allah can they?
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yes of course my words are hadith, as are yours and everyone elses, but I am not saying take my words as part of religion, as part of the message, saying this is something Allah forgot or said in secret to the prophet.
Bida is something added to the religion that Allah did not give. Allah did not give Bukhari hadith nor did he sanction the prophet to give something as part of the religion that wasnt from Allah. The prophet would never have gone against Allah and would never have added to the religion something Allah did not say in Quran. That is why he said NOT to write anything from him BUT QURAN.
Who said that someone gave the prophet in secret? Does the quran say that? Surely if not, then it would say against such a suggestion. But we all know that the prophet was the best example in regards to living the quran.
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I can't vouch for his Arabic translations, not being well versed enough but this document shows me that the quran is not lying when it states that it is a clear book. It does make a lot more sense and the silly questions hadeethists pose to quranists asking for hadeethist rituals in the quran are rendered irrelevant.
If we get down to the nitty gritty, the list of quranic guidelines is rather short but the principals are fundamental and other laws follow in an emergent manner, it is the "Theory of Everything" of living life. It reduces the quran down to what atheists say, "I don't need no damn holy book telling me to follow these rules that I know for myself". Except the only difference is that there is a God, and he is telling you to follow those obvious rules or there will be trouble. So in this way, the quran is a help file with a warning message This is a delicate system, follow these instructions, there aren't many of them or your computer will crash and burn! Which explains why so much of it is regarding hell.
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Who said that someone gave the prophet in secret? Does the quran say that? Surely if not, then it would say against such a suggestion. But we all know that the prophet was the best example in regards to living the quran.
unwritten message
secret message
the fine details of Quran
explains Quran
Quran says follow the hadith
hadith is the wisdomThese are all things I have heard said about hadith by hadithists. No this didnt come from Quran but there are clear warnings IN Quran about this and not to listen to them.
Yes the prophet was the best example OF HIS TIME, in living Quran and all those examples are IN Quran, so no need for hadith.Moderators, my reply box stopped jumping yesterday, it was bliss and I was today going to thank whoever did something and send virtual flowers and chocs. But now its again jumping all over the place brickwall