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Quran vs quranists

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    Ayisha
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    You know that I didn't mean that , I've understood very well what you said and it is illogical, no one has the power to cut power if there is no fault in the structure of distribution of power or in the line of delivering the power .

    did you talk in everything without knowledge ? I've study electricity and this is nonsense from you about cutting power . Anyways This is not our subject .

    WTF? ??? ??? ??? there are power cuts all the time in Egypt as you well know! I mean THE POWER IS SHUT OFF, CLOSED, CUT, NOT THERE ANYMORE gimme a break! brickwall

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      shadowpuppet
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      I know you studied electricity, you mentioned it countless times on the secret board.

      And, yes, there are power cuts in Egypt all the time, this is not nonsense!

      The secret board?!

      Oh, wow.... this place is way out of control.
      brickwall

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        Mazhar
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        1. Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you), We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad &#1605 of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Qur??n) and purifying you, and teaching you the Book (the Qur??n) and the Al-Hikmah (i.e. Sunnah, Isl?mic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and teaching you that which you used not to know.

        Reformer, your basic standpoint is that the presence of "waw" between the Book and "alhikmata" confirms these as two seperate things. If that is true then the next "waw" will classify that to be something superior than both the book and alhikmata which he is teaching. What type of that knowledge is?

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          Ayisha
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          The secret board?!
          brickwall

          Thereformer1 said he answered something like 10,000 questions on Islam on another board and 'won' all battles against anyone that tried to refute him, but he refuses to name the board so we can see these glorious answers to all the questions asked of him about Islam.

          Basically, he is withholding knowledge about the religion of Islam from those with questions here.

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            Ayisha
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            Do you also do the valley girl flip when you say whatever? Anyways, yes I know what it means in arabic. It means wisdom.

            Now, go reply to my posts you haven't replied to/show me where you replied or I'll consider it a slink. A shameful slink.

            You beastie, you scared him off again, now I will have to do some work >

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              savage_carrot
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              You beastie, you scared him off again, now I will have to do some work >

              You're right, we'll lose the comic relief

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                shadowpuppet
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                Oh, okay... I thought I was being left out.

                '(

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                  Leyna
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                  Oh, okay... I thought I was being left out.

                  '(

                  handshake

                  We were referring to this

                  Yeah sure, I've been in another Forum and they have asked me millions of questions and I answered but I didn't wait another millions of questions, so I did cancel my account . and you know one of the guys that I have talked to him(he was an atheist) and he got all his questions from this forum and he gave me the link.

                  No, sorry I'll not give you the link (believe me or not , I don't care ).

                  P.S millions of questions was a metaphore, but I might have answered more than 10.000 questions .

                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600278.75

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                    szuberi
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                    whoever thinks hikmah means books of hadith or laws made by different fiqhs is indeed the one with lots of empty space between his/her two ears

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                      handshake

                      We were referring to this

                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600278.75

                      Please everyone stay on topic! Thanks

                      so far the conclusion is

                      Alhikma is not Alkitaab. they are two different things like Nabyi and Rasool are different.

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                        Ayisha
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                        Please everyone stay on topic! Thanks

                        so far the conclusion is

                        Alhikma is not Alkitaab. they are two different things like Nabyi and Rasool are different.

                        so which is Muhammed? Nabi or Rasool? ???

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                          unknownuser
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                          so which is Muhammed? Nabi or Rasool? ???

                          He is both the nabyi and rasool!

                          now answer this

                          Allah sent down the book i.e quran and the hikma i.e....? may be once but think about it. Not kitaabil hakeem but Alkitaab Wa alHikma... now pause and reflect! thanks

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                            Mazhar
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                            He is both the nabyi and rasool!

                            now answer this

                            Allah sent down the book i.e quran and the hikma i.e....? may be once but think about it. Not kitaabil hakeem but Alkitaab Wa alHikma... now pause and reflect! thanks

                            Two things were "sent down". And what was done with these "two"
                            and He taught you/He gave you the knowledge........

                            after some pause, some people may also now try to reflect---but perhaps retarded children/people can learn only through physical exercises...but since the data already got stored by Bukharis in the non declarative memory cannot be deleted, I have little hope it gets into their minds.

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                              Two things were "sent down". And what was done with these "two"
                              and He taught you/He gave you the knowledge........

                              after some pause, some people may also now try to reflect---but perhaps retarded children/people can learn only through physical exercises...but since the data already got stored by Bukharis in the non declarative memory cannot be deleted, I have little hope it gets into their minds.

                              and what did prophet do?

                              he (the prophet) teaches you alKitaab and alHikmah and teaches you that which you did not know.

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                                shadowpuppet
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                                "the book and the wisdom"

                                One book.
                                One wisdom.

                                I don't see any argument here.
                                A book is a book and wisdom is wisdom... as in the ability to understand the book.

                                There's only one book mentioned here.

                                I realize I am new to this website and I will try to refrain from being a know-it-all
                                -- because I don't know it all and would never claim to...
                                but this is... peas and carrots, is it not?

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  but perhaps retarded children/people can learn only through physical exercises...

                                  nope

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                                    "the book and the wisdom"

                                    One book.
                                    One wisdom.

                                    I don't see any argument here.
                                    A book is a book and wisdom is wisdom... as in the ability to understand the book.

                                    There's only one book mentioned here.

                                    I realize I am new to this website and I will try to refrain from being a know-it-all
                                    -- because I don't know it all and would never claim to...
                                    but this is... peas and carrots, is it not?

                                    ok, now listen up

                                    Allah sent down

                                    1 - the book

                                    2 - ability to understand the book

                                    and that "the ability" is what Muslims believe is sunnah of the prophet!

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      ok, now listen up

                                      Allah sent down

                                      1 - the book

                                      2 - ability to understand the book

                                      and that "the ability" is what Muslims believe is sunnah of the prophet!

                                      Then their 'ability' is flawed.

                                      Dear Transformer seems to have defected back to his 'secret board' where the inhabitants are not so 'full of knowledge' and 'great in number' as they are here. '(

                                      His explanation for contradictions in hadith

                                      A lot of people say that Hadith has a lot of contradictions!!!
                                      Of course this is true ans must be the case ,but why?
                                      because hadith was said in a lot of occasions ,for example one asked the prophet "what is the best advice to me " he responds "take care of your mother " and another one asks the same question but the prophet repies "worship Allah alone ",and a lot of other answers .Theses contradictions(if you can call them so !)are due to the nature of the prophet himself ,the prophet was a smart man ,he looks at you and describe the best for you exactly as the doctor when he sees you ,he describes the medicine to your illness ,the prophet sees that the first man is having issues with his mother ,so he advises him to take care of his mother ,the other ,the propher sees that his faith is not that strong so he advises him to worship God alone .

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                                        His explanation for contradictions in hadith

                                        A lot of people say that Hadith has a lot of contradictions!!!
                                        Of course this is true ans must be the case ,but why?
                                        because hadith was said in a lot of occasions ,for example one asked the prophet "what is the best advice to me " he responds "take care of your mother " and another one asks the same question but the prophet repies "worship Allah alone ",and a lot of other answers .Theses contradictions(if you can call them so !)are due to the nature of the prophet himself ,the prophet was a smart man ,he looks at you and describe the best for you exactly as the doctor when he sees you ,he describes the medicine to your illness ,the prophet sees that the first man is having issues with his mother ,so he advises him to take care of his mother ,the other ,the propher sees that his faith is not that strong so he advises him to worship God alone .

                                        there is nothing wrong with that assumption!

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                                          Then their 'ability' is flawed.

                                          Dear Transformer seems to have defected back to his 'secret board' where the inhabitants are not so 'full of knowledge' and 'great in number' as they are here. '(

                                          His explanation for contradictions in hadith

                                          and I asked you to pause and reflect!... did you?

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